Winter Transfer Window Scouting Thread

dagraham · Nov 25, 2021

bloodzeed said:
Was just thinking when was the last time we signed someone that turned out good business

It’s pretty shocking isn’t it?

Romero on the face of it looks like a good signing, but it’s still too early to declare him an unqualified success. Plus we haven’t actually paid out anything for him yet.

Hojbjerg possibly, considering the modest fee, but still a big downgrade on our midfield of a few years ago.

Reguilon I’m still not totally convinced.

Moura possibly. Llorente I don’t think was a bad signing ( although not necessarily a great fit). Still think Gazzaniga was a better number two than either Hart or Gollini.

I think you probably have to go all the way back to Wanyama to find an unarguable recruitment success.

Really damning stuff when you think about it.

carpediem991 · Nov 25, 2021

Darth Vega said:
How do we not know Hitchen was serving up better targets but we didn't have the money and/or inclination to follow through so we settled on Plan B, C and D.

We've always shopped at Lidl no matter who our Director of Football has been - look at some of the signings Mitchell and Baldini were responsible for - and that stems from the very top

If Hitchen had better options in mind but they are not attainable for the club for whatever reason he is not needed either.

Left and right clubs get solid players for small money yet we fuck up every single signing, no matter the cost is 5m or 50m. The recruiting is piss poor and Steve Hitchen is a big part of it. The facts of the last 5 years speak for itself unfortunately.

Tottenham_God · Nov 25, 2021

Our central midfield options are really shit. My favourite position and one I consider arguably the most important.

I can't remember being so underwhelmed by our best CMs. Pierre and Skipp are good, satisfactory players and Skipp may improve. But for now they are 6.5/10 which isn't good enough for a club with our ambitions.

I'm still semi erect post Contes appointment, but it's slowly dwindling to a flaccid. Hopefully the transfer window gets a bit of blood back in there

kremlyn · Nov 25, 2021

SargeantMeatCurtains said:
If the players were decent enough, we’d be seeing a considerably better output from them. You look at the recruitment from clubs like Leicester, Liverpool and even West Ham recently and we don’t even compare.

It’s poor squad management that has put us where we are. That’s a fact. Steve Hitchen was responsible for all the players I listed. He’s absolutely part of the problem at this club.

Perfectly good squads fail to play well. A new manager, acouple of new players or even just one, can transform a team.

Hitchen has done alright but hasn't been able to get superstars. If, as seems likely, he facilitated the arrival of paratici, he's done very well to bring in the one guy who could change everything for us.

Blaming people is stupid.

yankspurs · Nov 25, 2021

You can look at todays catastrophic disaster 2 ways: It forces dearest supreme leader & old joseph to finally get their thumbs out of their asses & throw some money into the club for once. Or just another disaster under Enic in a very long line of them. Investment is needed in January. At this point, fuck waiting to summer. Fork up the damn money. We need 3-4 signings in January & another 5 in the summer. How to fit them? Terminate contracts, drop players from the names squad completely, tell them to find new clubs & go they are no longer wanted. Fuck feelings. It’s time to be ruthless. Dont want a certain few being given another fucking lifeline because we’re short again. Get them the fuck gone.

Vlahovic, De Vrij, Brozovic/Kessie/McKennie & another CB. Must haves. In the summer, a striker, a CB, a 6, & wing backs on both wings(2 on the left if Reguilon’s option is taken up).

bubble07 · Nov 26, 2021

The key is to buy quality proven players in small numbers

So in Jan we buy 2 guaranteed starters

In the summer we buy 3 guatentreed starters

Those 5 along with Lloris Romero Son and Kane plus the current players conte can coach to not be shit we are good to go

To speed up the process the players to target should be players Conte has coached

YB123 · Nov 26, 2021

bubble07 said:
The key is to buy quality proven players in small numbers

So in Jan we buy 2 guaranteed starters

In the summer we buy 3 guatentreed starters

Those 5 along with Lloris Romero Son and Kane plus the current players conte can coach to not be shit we are good to go

To speed up the process the players to target should be players Conte has coached

Agreed. I think De Vrij and Brozovic make a lot of sense and we know are not going to be silly money. Just hope Levy doesnt get all giddy-eyed over the prospect of waiting until the summer to get someone like Brozovic on a free.

YB123 · Nov 26, 2021

Tottenham_God said:
Our central midfield options are really shit. My favourite position and one I consider arguably the most important.

I can't remember being so underwhelmed by our best CMs. Pierre and Skipp are good, satisfactory players and Skipp may improve. But for now they are 6.5/10 which isn't good enough for a club with our ambitions.

I'm still semi erect post Contes appointment, but it's slowly dwindling to a flaccid. Hopefully the transfer window gets a bit of blood back in there

As i've said. Until Jan, its a case of just digging out wins like the one vs Leeds. We arent going to win them all, just a case of being in contention for 4th spot, no matter how ugly it is.

bubble07 · Nov 26, 2021

YB123 said:
Agreed. I think De Vrij and Brozovic make a lot of sense and we know are not going to be silly money. Just hope Levy doesnt get all giddy-eyed over the prospect of waiting until the summer to get someone like Brozovic on a free.

But they will need serious enticing. Inter are in next stage of CL and challenging for Serie A

Will need big persuading and big wages

yankspurs · Nov 26, 2021

bubble07 said:
The key is to buy quality proven players in small numbers

So in Jan we buy 2 guaranteed starters

In the summer we buy 3 guatentreed starters

Those 5 along with Lloris Romero Son and Kane plus the current players conte can coach to not be shit we are good to go

To speed up the process the players to target should be players Conte has coached

Thats if we keep Lloris which it doesnt seem like we are, unfortunately.

coy-spurs1882 · Nov 26, 2021

carpediem991 said:
Not much has changed, has it?

We were crying out for a 2nd striker and another creative option in midfield in the summer to at least replace Bale and Vinicius. We fkn didnt and it is haunting us, so we need to play Kane, Son and Lucas every game if we want to actually score a goal. And they have loads of days off to which does not make it easier.

I think a new defender e.g. can wait until summer, but we need that fire and creative spark up front and fill these two vital positions with quality.

we spent 100m on ndombele and lo celso but both of them are levels away from dembele and eriksen

Tottenham_God · Nov 26, 2021

bubble07 said:
But they will need serious enticing. Inter are in next stage of CL and challenging for Serie A

Will need big persuading and big wages

I wouldn't do it. Looking at it without my spurs fan hat. Milan's a cool city, chasing titles, champions League, money wouldn't be a factor surely.. already be wealthy as fuck.

In saying that... I hope we sign him

hellava_tough · Nov 26, 2021

Of course there is the worry that we won't get the required players in quick enough, over the next couple of transfer windows and Conte will get fed up.

We'll see I guess.

double0 · Nov 26, 2021

Players we can sell and not really miss. The whole current squad.

daryl hannah · Nov 26, 2021

Sessegnon is one bit of business that irks me. £25-30m + Onomah. Not a specialist LB/LWB nor LW. Sometimes even played on the RW on account of a bunch on tap-ins at Fulham. It was hype. You can’t have a LWB who might come good in that position for £25m.

The crazy thing is we apparently almost signed his brother for the other wing back role as part of the deal!

Doherty is the worst player I’ve ever seen AND the biggest surprise.

So I’d like to see us upgrade the secondary wing back roles in the summer. Or move Japhet to Doherty’s place and buy another CB.

coy-spurs1882 · Nov 26, 2021

daryl hannah said:
Sessegnon is one bit of business that irks me. £25-30m + Onomah. Not a specialist LB/LWB nor LW. Sometimes even played on the RW on account of a bunch on tap-ins at Fulham. It was hype. You can’t have a LWB who might come good in that position for £25m.

The crazy thing is we apparently almost signed his brother for the other wing back role as part of the deal!

Doherty is the worst player I’ve ever seen AND the biggest surprise.

So I’d like to see us upgrade the secondary wing back roles in the summer. Or move Japhet to Doherty’s place and buy another CB.

don't think tanganga has the technical ability to play as RWB

Lifelong · Nov 26, 2021

dagraham said:
It’s pretty shocking isn’t it?

Romero on the face of it looks like a good signing, but it’s still too early to declare him an unqualified success. Plus we haven’t actually paid out anything for him yet.

Hojbjerg possibly, considering the modest fee, but still a big downgrade on our midfield of a few years ago.

Reguilon I’m still not totally convinced.

Moura possibly. Llorente I don’t think was a bad signing ( although not necessarily a great fit). Still think Gazzaniga was a better number two than either Hart or Gollini.

I think you probably have to go all the way back to Wanyama to find an unarguable recruitment success.

Really damning stuff when you think about it.

This 1000%……it’s not the amount of money we’ve spent that’s the problem, it’s the shower of shit we’ve spent it on. I don’t think the blame lies at the feet of one person, that lies with the club as a whole. One thing that is for certain though, it has to stop. Only time will tell if we have the right people to do that and that they are given the budget to succeed.

djhotspur · Nov 26, 2021

coy-spurs1882 said:
we spent 100m on ndombele and lo celso but both of them are levels away from dembele and eriksen

Erikson was levels away from Erikson at the end

coy-spurs1882 · Nov 26, 2021

djhotspur said:
Erikson was levels away from Erikson at the end

still much better than lo celso and ndombele combined imo

danielneeds · Nov 26, 2021

Darth Vega said:
How do we not know Hitchen was serving up better targets but we didn't have the money and/or inclination to follow through so we settled on Plan B, C and D.

We've always shopped at Lidl no matter who our Director of Football has been - look at some of the signings Mitchell and Baldini were responsible for - and that stems from the very top

It’s not so much the individual players he’s signed, it’s that the squad as a whole has no balance at all.

We’ve got Kane, one of the great penalty box finishers of his generation, and we’ve got no players who can cross a ball competently, no players apart from Ndombele who have any real vision for forward passing, we have no players who can take set pieces consistently well.

These are just the basics of football and squad building that we’ve failed at.

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