Summer 2022 Window Scouting Thread

[Spurs Lodge Kittens]

If we're lookign at Guehi I wonder if we'd look at someone like Olise too. By all accounts he has a release clause in his contract that Palace are keen to do away with by offering him a new contract. He's a very promising left footed attacking player.

 

[austinfh]

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Tottenham Hotspur head coach Antonio Conte is set to discuss what next season holds for the club at a meeting in his homeland this week

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[Guntz]

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Levy makes decision on Antonio Conte meeting as Harry Kane plans Spurs future

Tottenham Hotspur head coach Antonio Conte is set to discuss what next season holds for the club at a meeting in his homeland this week

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Lovely.

He’s my number one choice for that LWB position.

I genuinely think he’ll get double digit assists feeding Kane and Son next season.

 

[markt]

I'd be wishing harder mate.

Whilst those players are great, not getting in a new LCB and LWB in the summer will be a failure IMO.

Well Kostic seems a good and realistic choice for the LWB. It is in the top 2 priority positions for us I think.

Fair on LCB, although I think Davies has done well. Bastoni would be a great signing.

 

[Enzo]

I don’t think Spurs are listed anymore, are they? I’m pretty sure that we are only announcing what we want to announce.

You are spot on, no longer listed so no obligation. The Athletic have attempted to explain the decision to announce:

Why have Tottenham announced this publicly?​

The point about selling clubs taking advantage of Spurs’ new-found wealth has led some to question why they have been so public with their announcement.

Tottenham are no longer listed on a stock market, so it is not easy to buy or sell their shares, but nearly 15 per cent of the club is still owned by small shareholders. The club could have made a small announcement on the investor relations section of their website and posted the relevant documents at Companies House, rather than issue a press release, but doing so would be a strange way for a big club to behave — especially as the news would have quickly got out anyway.

Some sources have suggested it is very understandable for Spurs to be as public as possible about the announcement.

Yes, there is a risk that selling clubs might hike up their prices, but it’s also a way of sending a message to Conte and the supporters that Tottenham are serious about strengthening the squad this summer. For Conte to still walk away after all this there would surely be quite a bit of sympathy for Levy, who it would seem couldn’t have done much more to keep the Italian.

https://theathletic.com/3331260/2022/05/25/tottenham-hotspurs-150m-capital-increase/

 

[djhotspur]

I agree with the first bit, he probably is high up on the list but doesn't mean he's top. Stopped reading when you started talking about what he would cost as it's just pie in the sky to think anyone could be able to guess what a player will be bought and sold for and it's rarely what you expect.

Jesus, if we have a target above bastoni they must be incredible

 

[JamieSpursCommunityUser]

As odd as it is that we're building a war-chest for players, its even odder that were being so public about it.
(An no, there are NO regulatory reasons that ENIC NEED to publicly disclose their increased stake as we're no longer a plc!).

There is still company law. The club has thousands of minority shareholders and so ENIC need to above reproach to avoid any possible lawsuits down the line.

 

[fletch82]

Correct. But in the same vein, if we buy Bastoni for £60M we will probably pay this in 5 x £12m instalments over 5 years.

In terms of fresh cash, yes, seeing as we're selling at a huge loss. But his fee will be written off in the accounts over the length of his contract. So say we bought him for 50, we've paid and written off 30 and still owe 20, and sell him for 25. We now no longer have to pay the remaining 20, so in the next two years that frees up 10 million we can use elsewhere in addition to the 5 in fresh cash.

That's not guaranteeing that we actually can afford to spend that money on players, but Levy is hardly known for spending money he doesn't have.

You are correct.
Lo Celso example though, we paid £14m loan fee in summer 2019 which are paid immediately.
Then made it permanent in January 2020 for £27m which would be spread over x amount of years.
2 years of the £27m would mean we’d have paid off a decent chunk I’d have thought?
Its the Ndombele one I’d imagine will screw us. If we manage to get shot, I doubt we’d cover what we owe

edit, totally misunderstood your post at first

well yeah we still have the future commitments to pay, however i suspect that money and commitment is accounted for,

basically moving money around on a balance sheet i guess

The point I was trying to make and this isn't a quote just a example is I keep seeing
Sell ndom 25 mill
Lo celso 25mil
Sanchez 20 mil
Winks a tenner
Reggie 20 mil
So that's 90 million on top of the 150 million plus the loose change from the last kitty so we probably have a total of 240 million and 10 pounds to spend woo hoo buy all the players and I didn't think it would be correct but I'm only hooman so maybe I'm being to simplistic ?

 

[shelfboy68]

Jesus, if we have a target above bastoni they must be incredible

I do think we are aiming higher than him it's more likely players that will squeeze into the budget I certainly don't expect us to get him but what a signing if so.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

Raum would be my top choice for LWB but Kostic is definitely on the list.

That said I was a bit concerned after watching him against West Ham both legs. Spammed crosses a lot but struggled to ever actually beat his man and also gave it away cheaply quite a bit.

Also worried about how he will cope athleticism wise playing as WB in the PL at 29 years old. He struggled to get back a few times for Frankfurt against West Ham.

Left foot is a wand and he definitely brings good output and set piece threat too but just hope he can cope with the demands of playing WB in the PL.

 

[spursfan77]

I can remember quite the clamour on here last summer for us to sign both of these. Soumare the most. Flopped at leicester.

 

[onthetwo]

There is still company law. The club has thousands of minority shareholders and so ENIC need to above reproach to avoid any possible lawsuits down the line.

I guess. The other detail that i missed was probably the valuation that the 1.9% investment at £150m suggests - £7.9bn!!

 

[stewartd]

Dont know if he has been mentioned previously but Leaonardo Spinazzola was fantastic for Italy in the Euros but then got injured Is he now fit and if so he would be a terrific buy.

 

[Spursh]

If we're lookign at Guehi I wonder if we'd look at someone like Olise too. By all accounts he has a release clause in his contract that Palace are keen to do away with by offering him a new contract. He's a very promising left footed attacking player.

Yeah, it’s reportedly £35m, which is relatively low for such a talented, young, HG talent, who’s already proven to be capable at PL level.

And I suspect Guehi would cost £45m+.

 

[snakehipsspurs]

Raum would be my top choice for LWB but Kostic is definitely on the list.

That said I was a bit concerned after watching him against West Ham both legs. Spammed crosses a lot but struggled to ever actually beat his man and also gave it away cheaply quite a bit.

Also worried about how he will cope athleticism wise playing as WB in the PL at 29 years old. He struggled to get back a few times for Frankfurt against West Ham.

Left foot is a wand and he definitely brings good output and set piece threat too but just hope he can cope with the demands of playing WB in the PL.

You have to remember he plays in a team that is set up to rely on his crosses to be one of their main threats going forward. His role is to fire them in at a high rate to create opportunities and break teams down, hence the outrageous volume of them and low completion percentage because they’re not always in good attacking scenarios (not his fault)

As for his dribbling, you are right he is not the worlds greatest dribbler and doesn’t thrive in close areas having to beat multiple defenders in and around the box. Sadly his current role also requires this from him so his stats look ugly to say the least

But again it’s about context. What Kostic is very good at is driving with the ball in space down the wing and getting teams up the pitch quickly. Give him one defender to beat 15 yards from the box and he’ll skin them more often that not.

Also wingback roles in conte’s system aren’t designed to be beating multiple defenders in tight areas in the box. He designs attacking scenarios which deliberately create huge overloads to then switch the ball to an open wingback for deliveries into the box. Kostic has superb movement off the ball to get himself free, he excels in this open space and put him on the other end of those crosses and no wingback in the world is a better finisher.

TL;DR - he’s built for Conte’s play style which will accent the things he’s as good as anyone at and hide his deficiencies.

 

[The Scarecrow]

The point I was trying to make and this isn't a quote just a example is I keep seeing
Sell ndom 25 mill
Lo celso 25mil
Sanchez 20 mil
Winks a tenner
Reggie 20 mil
So that's 90 million on top of the 150 million plus the loose change from the last kitty so we probably have a total of 240 million and 10 pounds to spend woo hoo buy all the players and I didn't think it would be correct but I'm only hooman so maybe I'm being to simplistic ?

Say you buy a car for 50k with a 5 year down payment plan. Let's assume it's interest free for simplicity.
After three years, you've got 20k left on your loan, and sell the car for 25k. You pay off the remainder of your loan and get the 5k in your bank account. But you also have no loan, allowing you to buy a new car for 55k. You pay 5k up front and take up a new 50k loan.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

That's some good info, thanks for sharing.

How do you think he would cope defensively against the top teams?

 

[Russ1201]

The point I was trying to make and this isn't a quote just a example is I keep seeing
Sell ndom 25 mill
Lo celso 25mil
Sanchez 20 mil
Winks a tenner
Reggie 20 mil
So that's 90 million on top of the 150 million plus the loose change from the last kitty so we probably have a total of 240 million and 10 pounds to spend woo hoo buy all the players and I didn't think it would be correct but I'm only hooman so maybe I'm being to simplistic ?

Be doing well to get £10 for winks ? maybe Newvastle could bid to hike the ptice up ?

 

[djhotspur]

Dont know if he has been mentioned previously but Leaonardo Spinazzola was fantastic for Italy in the Euros but then got injured Is he now fit and if so he would be a terrific buy.

Yeah I was wondering about him. Has he done much this year?

 

[Yiddo100]

I can remember quite the clamour on here last summer for us to sign both of these. Soumare the most. Flopped at leicester.

Same with villa, they were making better signings than us and going to challenging us for Europe, that went well