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Blake Griffin

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there's a lot to like about aarons but his composure and delivery in the final third is really lacking, he gets himself into great positions(which itself is a positive) but rarely does he deliver with any kind of quality. in 45 games last season for a pretty dominant norwich side he only managed two goals and two assists, a player with even an average final ball would have comfortably gotten at least double that. of course he's only young so he could well improve but that's not always a given. i'd still take him over what we have but i'm positive that there are better options out there also.
 

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RWB definitely looks a priority for a proper competitor with Emerson. Lavinier has looked good for our u23s but unsure if he's going to be quite the level, would rather we tried him over Doherty at this point. Lamptey would be ideal but just don't see him coming without it being a massive fee.

My top picks would be:

Youcef Atal - 25 - Nice - £15m - both footed, very skillfull and excellent with the ball.

vid comp:

Wilfried Singo - 20 - Torino - £10m - Strong ball carrier with good end product.

vid comp:

Nahitan Nandez - 25 - Cagliari - £20m - We were linked with him in the summer, very versatile who can play in midfield (central or right) but also played RWB. Technically excellent with amazing engine.

vid comp:
 

Kingellesar

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As a Fifa player, I think Atal would be a very good signing. Get him in.

In all honesty, I don't think RWB is a pressing concern currently, Royal / Tanganga / Doherty should be enough to see us until end of the season, then we can assess whehether the 3 of them are upto it. I think Royal will be really good for us.
 

Blake Griffin

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RWB definitely looks a priority for a proper competitor with Emerson. Lavinier has looked good for our u23s but unsure if he's going to be quite the level, would rather we tried him over Doherty at this point. Lamptey would be ideal but just don't see him coming without it being a massive fee.

My top picks would be:

Youcef Atal - 25 - Nice - £15m - both footed, very skillfull and excellent with the ball.

vid comp:

Wilfried Singo - 20 - Torino - £10m - Strong ball carrier with good end product.

vid comp:

Nahitan Nandez - 25 - Cagliari - £20m - We were linked with him in the summer, very versatile who can play in midfield (central or right) but also played RWB. Technically excellent with amazing engine.

vid comp:

i'll add jeremie frimpong to the list. quite similar to lamptey but should be more affordable, hg too.



he's not the only player at leverkusen i'd be looking at either to be fair.
 

SirLedley

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i'll add jeremie frimpong to the list. quite similar to lamptey but should be more affordable, hg too.



he's not the only player at leverkusen i'd be looking at either to be fair.

Yeah would love Frimpong, didn't include him as I just think he might be destined for a Munich or one of the mega clubs but with Paratici who knows!
 

SirLedley

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As a Fifa player, I think Atal would be a very good signing. Get him in.

In all honesty, I don't think RWB is a pressing concern currently, Royal / Tanganga / Doherty should be enough to see us until end of the season, then we can assess whehether the 3 of them are upto it. I think Royal will be really good for us.
I like Emerson too, think he will be much more potent for us once teammates really start utilising him as he's often in good space and/or making good runs that go to waste as we aren't playing it to him.

But Doherty isn't it, could be fine, and Tangana is definitely not a RWB.

Given Conte has shown he often likes to use 4 WBs in most games due to the expected output of them and the fact they are part of the key creative setup for us for me it's a priority we have the necessary quality.
 

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I'd prefer a more offensive RWB tbh. He's one of the 5 attackers in Conte's system, he needs to provide a threat. Rather convert a winger with a good engine than trying to make a fullback better in attack. Way easier trying to learn to defend to a minimum than attack.
Agree what about stevie
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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We need players who are quick and importantly good dribblers and ball carriers to play wing back.

At the moment we have Emerson and Doherty on the right who lack the speed and dribbling ability to go past players and go down the outside.

It is vital we have outlets who can stretch the opposition and get beyond them out wide too.

Sess and Reggie are more coachable in this respect so we should definitely prioritise a RWB imo.

The likes of Lamptey, Frimpong and Singo look good bets in this respect.

Ridle Baku is another we should be looking at.
 

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As Conte recently said he wants two players for each position, and also stated that he see's Rodon as a CB and not a RCB or LCB, it made me think how he sees the overall squad, and where he will see gaps that need addressing. I have based the below on where Conte has used players to date, and how many minutes they have had. The only positions we do not have obvious back-up for are LCB and CF, and for this reason I think these will be the priorities in January. It also suggests that Ndombele and Dele are surplus, and there seems no obvious place for Tanganga.

GK: LLoris [Gollini]
RCB: Romero [Sanchez]
CB: Dier [Rodon]
LCB: Davies [TBD]
RWB: Emerson [Doherty]
LWB: Reguilon [Sessegnon]
CM: Skipp [Winks]
CM: Højbjerg [Lo Celso]
RWF: Moura [Gil]
LWF: Son [Bergwijn]
CF: Kane [TBD]

Assuming we fill the two obvious gaps in January, I'd imagine we'll then look at strengthening our three or four weakest positions in the summer - for me RWB, CB, CM and RWF stand out as those weaknesses.
 

OPModric

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We need players who are quick and importantly good dribblers and ball carriers to play wing back.

At the moment we have Emerson and Doherty on the right who lack the speed and dribbling ability to go past players and go down the outside.

It is vital we have outlets who can stretch the opposition and get beyond them out wide too.

Sess and Reggie are more coachable in this respect so we should definitely prioritise a RWB imo.

The likes of Lamptey, Frimpong and Singo look good bets in this respect.

Ridle Baku is another we should be looking at.
I think we should prioritise a wingback who can play on both sides in the short term, because I have no faith at all that Sessegnon will be a decent backup.

Tanganga is at least great defensively, particularly one vs one.
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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I think we should prioritise a wingback who can play on both sides in the short term, because I have no faith at all that Sessegnon will be a decent backup.

Tanganga is at least great defensively, particularly one vs one.

Tanganga is no wing back though, not in the slightest.

One of the most important aspects of a wing back is being effective offensively, particularly in the 3-4-3 as so much of the creativity comes down to how much the wing backs can produce on the ball.

Tanganga is a CB who can cover as a defensive RB at a push. But to play him wing back is a no go, he just doesn't have the traits or instincts to play there.

It seems to me that Conte feels like he can work with Sessegnon so I would be patient with our left hand side. The right needs urgent surgery though.
 

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As Conte recently said he wants two players for each position, and also stated that he see's Rodon as a CB and not a RCB or LCB, it made me think how he sees the overall squad, and where he will see gaps that need addressing. I have based the below on where Conte has used players to date, and how many minutes they have had. The only positions we do not have obvious back-up for are LCB and CF, and for this reason I think these will be the priorities in January. It also suggests that Ndombele and Dele are surplus, and there seems no obvious place for Tanganga.

GK: LLoris [Gollini]
RCB: Romero [Sanchez]
CB: Dier [Rodon]
LCB: Davies [TBD]
RWB: Emerson [Doherty]
LWB: Reguilon [Sessegnon]
CM: Skipp [Winks]
CM: Højbjerg [Lo Celso]
RWF: Moura [Gil]
LWF: Son [Bergwijn]
CF: Kane [TBD]

Assuming we fill the two obvious gaps in January, I'd imagine we'll then look at strengthening our three or four weakest positions in the summer - for me RWB, CB, CM and RWF stand out as those weaknesses.

I like your rationale, January is more of a window of opportunity and I don't see us landing the ideal secondary striker until the summer and think Bergwijn / Scarlett will be the cover until then.

On your list, I'd suggest GLC is considered more as RWF cover and Ndombele CM, Bergwijn CF and Gil LWF. Dele does seem the odd man out somewhat as has been his problem for some time.

Think our outgoings may determine our immediate incomings.
 

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RWB definitely looks a priority for a proper competitor with Emerson. Lavinier has looked good for our u23s but unsure if he's going to be quite the level, would rather we tried him over Doherty at this point. Lamptey would be ideal but just don't see him coming without it being a massive fee.

My top picks would be:

Youcef Atal - 25 - Nice - £15m - both footed, very skillfull and excellent with the ball.

vid comp:

Wilfried Singo - 20 - Torino - £10m - Strong ball carrier with good end product.

vid comp:

Nahitan Nandez - 25 - Cagliari - £20m - We were linked with him in the summer, very versatile who can play in midfield (central or right) but also played RWB. Technically excellent with amazing engine.

vid comp:

All good options there
Would say that singo looks like another Emerson, and whilst atal brings pace (which we are sorely lacking), he doesn’t offer much else.
out of those three I like the look of nandez the most impressive as he’s good on the ball and appears to have intelligent movement off the ball.
It’s worth noting that despite all the talk of victor moses, the biggest success story at Contes Chelsea was alonso. He was doing nothing much at Bolton and then fiorentina (?) before becoming a key part of their attack. He’s terrible at left back but a real threat at lwb.
im not saying nandez could be the equivalent (at rwb obvs) but signing a player of that ilk would be good
 

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Tanganga is no wing back though, not in the slightest.

One of the most important aspects of a wing back is being effective offensively, particularly in the 3-4-3 as so much of the creativity comes down to how much the wing backs can produce on the ball.

Tanganga is a CB who can cover as a defensive RB at a push. But to play him wing back is a no go, he just doesn't have the traits or instincts to play there.

It seems to me that Conte feels like he can work with Sessegnon so I would be patient with our left hand side. The right needs urgent surgery though.

I agree with everything you write, but I'd still prefer Tanganga over Sessegnon against decent opposition. I would also rather play Tanganga or Rodon LCB and push Davies to winger position.

I can't see how Sessegnon will be good enough.
 

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I like your rationale, January is more of a window of opportunity and I don't see us landing the ideal secondary striker until the summer and think Bergwijn / Scarlett will be the cover until then.

On your list, I'd suggest GLC is considered more as RWF cover and Ndombele CM, Bergwijn CF and Gil LWF. Dele does seem the odd man out somewhat as has been his problem for some time.

Think our outgoings may determine our immediate incomings.

Bergwijn has been listed as Conte as potential back up for Kane (in the absence of a proper back up), but it is clear that he operates best as a LWF and that we do not have backup for Kane at all.
 

spids

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I think we should prioritise a wingback who can play on both sides in the short term, because I have no faith at all that Sessegnon will be a decent backup.

Tanganga is at least great defensively, particularly one vs one.

Sessegnon showed yesterday he is a better WB than Tanganga (who was horrible both defensively and offensively). I think Tanganga's best position is as a RB in a 4-4-2 with a move to RCB at some point. He is not good enough on the ball to play RCB for us in Conte's system (and neither is Sanche IMO).
 
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