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Match Threads Spurs Vs Liverpool

Date
Dec 19, 2021
KO Time
16:30
Score
Spurs 2-2 Liverpool
Kane (13) Son (74)
Jota (35) Robertson (69)

Robertson (78)

Match Prediction

  • Spurs Win

    Votes: 52 23.1%
  • Liverpool Win

    Votes: 134 59.6%
  • Score Draw

    Votes: 38 16.9%
  • Goalless Draw

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • Total voters
    225

Japhet

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Just watched Klopps presser- he is the worst-
-complaining about no hand gel- why didn’t he bring some?
- complaints on decisions but nothing on the ones against Spurs of course.
-Belittling Conte’s tactics as if it’s invalid football but our XG was better than theirs.
-Saying we only had Hojberg out from the 1st choice line up whereas it was FIVE changes from Norwich- the whole midfield!

I’m very bored of this self-serving ranting and the journos who never challenge him or any manager on them.

Breaking News - Klopp is a **** when he doesn't get his own way. Perfect fit for Liverpool.
 
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crokey

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Dont understand the people saying Kane challenge wasnt a red. We are all Spurs fans here, you're not texting your Arsenal mates, you dont need to pretend you didnt think it was a red :ROFLMAO:
 

bomberH

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I've just watched the game, after knowing the result. So here are my sober take aways and responses to various comments I've read here.

1. For most of the game I saw 2 very rigid formations.
Tactically I think we did really well in denying Liverpool space in behind us.
Liverpool in contrast were either brave or stupid and left their CB's 2 on 2 with Son and Kane all game
2. The paranoia around commentary bias is a bit weird. I thought the commentary was fine. The only thing that irritated me was Tyler's insistence that this was the best game of the season.
2. Defence-did really well in nullifying Mane and Salah. The low-mid block denied them the opportunity to get in behind and both full backs defended with maturity. Didn't notice Dier much, which is normally a good sign from your defenders.
3. Midfield-put in a real shift in a very rigid flat 3 formation. Dele was great in the transitions due to his engine and good timing. Few glimpses of getting his mojo back on the ball.
Ndombele put in a good shift off the ball, struggled to support the counter attacks because he doesn't have the engine Dele does. But he did make a significant contribution towards the 1st goal.
Winks, solid throughout, again, massive contribution towards both goals.
4. Son got a goal but he has struggle for form recently and struggled here again, in a game that should have suited him.
Kane did ok.
5. Penalty incidents, meh, Jotta had a slightly better case than winks. Both clumsy.
6. Red card incidents, Kanes didn't look too bad real time, was a genuine attempt for the ball. Robertson's, was a bit silly, a moment of frustration, he can't have too many complaints.
7. It was a performance Mourinho would have been proud of. Whilst I don't like the way he said it, Klopp was correct. We set up in a 5-3-2 and got the ball forward very quickly. (Ironically, something Liverpool are often praised for). The key to it being a good performance was crutialy, the commitment to the cause. Everyone's attitude was excellent and everyone seemed to understand their brief.
8. I think if we had employed these tactics Vs Man City, they would have cut us to pieces. So I look forward to what Conte has in store for them.
For me personally, I don’t think there’s an issue with commentary bias, I just think when Gary Neville gets something in his head he just can’t stop talking about it for the next half hour. And Tyler just follows and tries to stick a joke in somewhere so he can impress Neville. And it becomes tedious. Worst was the 1-6 drubbing of Utd. By all means talk about how great Liverpool’s fullbacks are but don’t ejaculate every time they cross a ball. Tyler made out that half volley from TAA was like Bale’s CL final overhead kick. It was a very good effort but he almost got to Aguerooo heights of commentary before he realised it wasn’t a goal. In fact Hugo’s save was possibly more impressive.

Neville’s not alone in doing what he does though. One of my favourite co-commentators is Ally McCoist but he also struggles to let things go once he has something in his head.

It’s all about meh commentary rather than bias.
 

1882andallthat

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Now the dust has settled I will try to be objective. On another day we take our excellent chances and we win the game, but equally on another day, Kane gets sent off which should have happened and we're down to 10 so early in the game and they get awarded the penalty in the second which we'd have been p*ssed off at not getting and they win the game comfortably.

Positives to take from the game, an excellent all round committed performance against a top side who always looked dangerous despite having a much changed midfield and no VVD in defence. Good shout out to some of the players who have two often gone AWOL when the going had got tough. Yes we coughed up the ball too much and invited more pressure but there are definite signs of improvement under Conte. If that was under the previous regime, we buckle under pressure and lose by 2-3 goals.
 
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Hotspur33

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For me personally, I don’t think there’s an issue with commentary bias, I just think when Gary Neville gets something in his head he just can’t stop talking about it for the next half hour. And Tyler just follows and tries to stick a joke in somewhere so he can impress Neville. And it becomes tedious. Worst was the 1-6 drubbing of Utd. By all means talk about how great Liverpool’s fullbacks are but don’t ejaculate every time they cross a ball. Tyler made out that half volley from TAA was like Bale’s CL final overhead kick. It was a very good effort but he almost got to Aguerooo heights of commentary before he realised it wasn’t a goal. In fact Hugo’s save was possibly more impressive.

Neville’s not alone in doing what he does though. One of my favourite co-commentators is Ally McCoist but he also struggles to let things go once he has something in his head.

It’s all about meh commentary rather than bias.
Neville also praised the delivery from Arnold for Robertson's goal. I'm pretty sure Arnold was going for goal. No way he was aiming at Roberson's head.
And yeah, the aguerooooo is Tyler's legacy and he's been trying to repeat it ever since like a tired 80's pop band still touring 35 years later.
 

bigfrooj

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Nov 11, 2011
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I went to the game yesterday, the first game since versus Leeds for me. At the Leeds game we were reflecting that we had gone two and half games since the last shot on target before we eventually ran out 2-1 winners. Yesterday we created so many more chances, we were a lot bolder and confident and we got the ball forward faster. Chalk and cheese performances in a lot of ways.
We're shaking off the Mourinho and Nuno chains of football past and we're suddenly almost playing at the level we were about five years ago under Pochettino. No doubt to me that appointing Conte is the best thing we've done for years and we actually have a football team again. The next six months are going to be so bloody interesting.

On the game itself yesterday it is so strange about perceptions. Where we sit we were all livid about Paul Tierney and were convinced how anti-Spurs he was. It turns out he is just an awful referee and was as shit to us as he was to Liverpool. It's a funny old game.
 

Finchyid

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Dont understand the people saying Kane challenge wasnt a red. We are all Spurs fans here, you're not texting your Arsenal mates, you dont need to pretend you didnt think it was a red :ROFLMAO:
I didn’t think it was a a red tho
 

Rosco1984

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Sky: Murdoch; Times: Murdoch… sports section in the paper today: front page ? View attachment 101912
As much as Kanes was reckless and should have been Red he went for the ball but was late and a bit reckless. Robertsons was assault he just kicked the f out of emerson out of spite and frustration yet he's made out to be hard done by and Kane the villain as usual.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Think this match is testament to what alot of us as been saying - our squad is not as bad as many on here have been saying. With good coaching, fitness and belief many of these players can perform at a good level. We've seen it with Dier and Davies, and now Sessegnon, Winks and Dele have all put in good performances. No doubt the squad with be strengthened in either January or in the summer but it really isn't a critical situation.
 

TheTanguy

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Think this match is testament to what alot of us as been saying - our squad is not as bad as many on here have been saying. With good coaching, fitness and belief many of these players can perform at a good level. We've seen it with Dier and Davies, and now Sessegnon, Winks and Dele have all put in good performances. No doubt the squad with be strengthened in either January or in the summer but it really isn't a critical situation.
I agree that this squad is good enough to compete for a top four finish with a world-class manager at the helm. Need a couple of spot on signings to challenge for more than that though.
 

ShelfWatcher

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Read a report on news now that VAR thought Kane's tackle lacked sufficient speed and intensity, oo er missus ?? to be deemed a red
 

Serpico

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Readings lots and seeing most on here being rational about the performance is good. We mustn’t get carried away although we can be optimistic Another day another result - we did get lucky but so did they.
Fair result- Conti is the real deal .
 

chrissivad

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Kane was lucky to stay on, and probably only stayed on as it was inside the first 20mins. Not sure why refs seem to let things go more when it's early in the game.
 

topper

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Think this match is testament to what alot of us as been saying - our squad is not as bad as many on here have been saying. With good coaching, fitness and belief many of these players can perform at a good level. We've seen it with Dier and Davies, and now Sessegnon, Winks and Dele have all put in good performances. No doubt the squad with be strengthened in either January or in the summer but it really isn't a critical situation.
Conte is an excellent coach no doubt - if he can make Doherty into a half decent option as right wing back he will qualify as the GOAT of coaches!
 

topper

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Neville also praised the delivery from Arnold for Robertson's goal. I'm pretty sure Arnold was going for goal. No way he was aiming at Roberson's head.
And yeah, the aguerooooo is Tyler's legacy and he's been trying to repeat it ever since like a tired 80's pop band still touring 35 years later.
Do you mean the Black Lace classic:
'Agueroooo,ooo,ooo
Push pineapple, shake the tree'??
 

C0YS

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Read a report on news now that VAR thought Kane's tackle lacked sufficient speed and intensity, oo er missus ?? to be deemed a red
Tbf in real time the tackle isnt that intense or quick. Kane is kinda sliding at an an angle, as if hes trying to trap the ball. The slow motion obviously doesnt take into account speed and it looks much worse because of that. I think it was a sending off but I also thought that's the reason they didn't VAR it.
 
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max cady

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the funniest thing I heard was from Neville when he mentioned TAA & Robertson in the same breathe as Cafu & Roberto Carlos I nearly choked on my dinner.
 

C0YS

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the funniest thing I heard was from Neville when he mentioned TAA & Robertson in the same breathe as Cafu & Roberto Carlos I nearly choked on my dinner.
In fairness to TAA he could develop to that level. I mean neither cafu or Roberto Carlos posted anything like TAAs numbers, though full backs were a bit different then. TAA has weaknesses too, but he is a phenomenal player and still so young.
 
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