Match Threads Southampton Vs Spurs

daveduvet · Dec 28, 2021

mark_2017 said:
Okay, he was back to his crap self today and has been crap for years, that enough for you?

Brilliant. Thanks Mark ???

13VanDerBale13 · Dec 28, 2021

The fact that we’re relying on the likes of Winks / Dele / Doherty, tells you all you need to know about our squad depth

Saoirse · Dec 28, 2021

a) Son needs a rest. This isn't his fault. We'd played him every minute of every serious match for years despite his extensive South Korea commitments, he was rarely injured, and unlike others always put in 100% effort. Now he's had Covid on top of that and he's out of focus, sharpness and energy. Time to use the squad, or even better supplement it early in January, and give him a solid couple of weeks off. He won't like it, but he does need it.
b) Credit to Doherty and Winks - very consistently improved since Conte came in.
c) We desperately need a playmaker. Ndombele clearly is just not trusted and Lo Celso can't stay fit long enough to have a real go.
d) Hojberg needs to show more to stay in the team.
e) We were still very unlucky today, especially with the disallowed goals and all the chances in the last 20. Keep this up and I think Conte will at minimum get us back into the Europa League by finishing 5th this season. COYS!

Saoirse · Dec 28, 2021

13VanDerBale13 said:
The fact that we’re relying on the likes of Winks / Dele / Doherty, tells you all you need to know about our squad depth

None of those players did anything wrong today. In fact both Winks and Doherty were crucial in goals which should have been allowed to stand.

fishhhandaricecake · Dec 28, 2021

easley91 said:
I haven't seen their left foot ability so I may be wrong. But Doherty gave us more than most today. Got into the box, had a few chances and released Lucas and Bryan for two good chances.

Maybe just me but I thought it was one of his better games all told.

Mate it’s fine all semantics, he did well today just don’t think he’s good enough.

For example that chance through on goal he tries to poke it past Forster but I could see James/TAA lifting it over with their right foot or getting a shot away with their left.

As you say MD played well today I’m not disputing that I’m just saying that a combination of the likes of him, Dele, PEH,Gil we’re holding us back a bit today.

We just need more attacking and creative quality and I’m sure Conte and Paratici know that

Donki · Dec 28, 2021

ajspurs said:
I agree that Saints deserved credit for their start, but that doesn't mean that we weren't doing certain things well either. It has nothing to do with feeling entitled to win, that's a reply you can give after every loss but it doesn't mean that you can't pick out things we should have been doing better regardless.

I absolutely agree in that it's nothing to be worried about in the grand scheme of things at all, I said exactly what you've just said a few days ago and I don't think anyone is denying that, but in just the analysing of this match in isolation, I'm not going to act like it's not disappointing to fail to come away with a win off the back of 4 wins out of 5 in the league and after playing a whole half against 10 men, irrespective of the last two seasons.

We are 7 unbeaten, I think we are getting ahead of ourselves here. I do agree with the points you make but we need to be realistic. I trust Antonio will sort it out.

Harryson · Dec 28, 2021

Record breaker

It may only have been a draw today against 10-man Southampton but Antonio Conte (7, W4-D3-L0) is the first Spurs manager to remain unbeaten in his first seven league matches as manager of the club.

Which ties in nicely with what Dier said...

"We've got to keep things in perspective. Everyone can see the progression."

worcestersauce · Dec 28, 2021

I guess one thing I learned today, if Davies is going to play that left centre back roll we need another left back/wingback.
Another thought if Doherty is playing Left Wingback and you swap your Right Wingback for Gil wouldn't it have perhaps been an idea to swap Doherty to the right where he's most comfortable and play Gil on his natural left side?

spursfan77 · Dec 28, 2021

ajspurs said:
Yeah it's definitely not good enough. Thing is some of our best performing players are the worst culprits in terms of being comfortable on the ball, like Son and Lucas.

Too many players are too comfortable in losing possession also. Dier today gave the ball away so many times in playing out from the back.

We had enough chances to win second half and both those two were culprits. I said at half time it would be tough and we would need to take our chances. We didn’t except for Kane‘s disallowed goal.

bubble07 · Dec 28, 2021

OPModric said:
Yes, agree it was the right move. I also think Doherty were decent, but he didnt provide the width that could have opened more space.

Doherty decent ? Why not play Gill there?

bubble07 · Dec 28, 2021

worcestersauce said:
I guess one thing I learned today, if Davies is going to play that left centre back roll we need another left back/wingback.
Another thought if Doherty is playing Left Wingback and you swap your Right Wingback for Gil wouldn't it have perhaps been an idea to swap Doherty to the right where he's most comfortable and play Gil on his natural left side?

Yep was such a weird decision to leave them the wrong side

sidford · Dec 28, 2021

Conte cost us 2 points leaving on PEH and not bringing on Ndombele.. there was no reason to keep winks and PEH on & winks was offering more going forward. To see Doherty, PEH & Emerson trying to create a chance was almost funny. You could give our full backs all the time in the world and they would still create nothing. Bad 2 points dropped.

ohtottenham! · Dec 28, 2021

Ghost Hardware said:
The technical ability in our team is so far below what it should be. We need creative players who are comfortable on the ball. Shame we aren’t looking at any it seems.

I agree, but let's see what happens in the transfer window. Unfortunately, our two, supposedly most creative midfielders in GLC and TN ain't getting a look in or are unavailable. We have to sort that area out first. The PEH, Winks, Alli combo wasn't really working at all. Oliver Skipp, who was rotated today, was really missed imo. I'd have preferred to see him in the line up today in place of PEH.

nedley · Dec 28, 2021

Where's Ndombele's player watch thread @Rob @Archibald&Crooks?

Dannyspur · Dec 28, 2021

my son-in-law had us to win, us to score a penalty and Kane to score from outside the box - that fine margin of VAR cost him dearly

Harrier · Dec 28, 2021

I think today proved we need to look at some CM’s.

Dele didn’t offer anything really.

Winks although he had a better game in the second half due to more time on the ball, when he was pressured by their press, he looked very uncomfortable in possession.

Rob · Dec 28, 2021

nedley said:
Where's Ndombele's player watch thread @Rob @Archibald&Crooks?

Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele

Can't understand for the life of me why he wasn't brought on for Hojbjerg.

www.spurscommunity.co.uk

Archibald&Crooks · Dec 28, 2021

Harryson said:
Record breaker
It may only have been a draw today against 10-man Southampton but Antonio Conte (7, W4-D3-L0) is the first Spurs manager to remain unbeaten in his first seven league matches as manager of the club.

Which ties in nicely with what Dier said...

"We've got to keep things in perspective. Everyone can see the progression."

What he actually said was "We've got to keep things in perspective. Everyone can see the progression. Except on SC where they are all having a bundle and giving eachother dead legs"

InOffMeLeftShin · Dec 28, 2021

The loss to Man Utd triggered a change. If this game shows us anything it’s that we still struggle to break down teams that sit. Conte automations have been great on the break and in transition but still need more in games like these.

We should have won, were robbed but I bet Conte learned a lot from today

Flobadob · Dec 28, 2021

fishhhandaricecake said:
Not sure about that strategy mate, I agree it’s a weakness but also the lack of any other players who can put the ball in the net aside from Kane, Son and occasionally Lucas is also a massive issue.

I’d go for Gravenberch, he can do it all and has a goal in him. If we sign an attacking player I’d also raid Ajax for Anthony

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