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TBH it's posts like this that really don't help.but but but....the Beyonce concerts in the lovely stadium
The amount of Levy posts that criticise our improved financial situation, is truly bizarre.
TBH it's posts like this that really don't help.but but but....the Beyonce concerts in the lovely stadium
My point the criticism is excessive. I did not say there is legitimate criticism.I appreciate you trying to stick to your guns and I don't want to change your view. But making out this is all retrospect or hindsight is the purest nonsense imaginable.
I’ll give you conte was unprofessional in what he did, but he’s got precious for that. There’s no way he would have taken the job unless he was given assurances and they were simply not met.I said long-term decline. It's been a shit season, but before Conte lost total interest (pre-World Cup) we were well placed. I am surprised how little anger is directed at Conte, not so much for losing interest, but for his totally unprofessional rant after the Southampton game which has fed the media frenzy.
I agree that the squad needs work but we have a good core to work with (Romero, Betancur, Kulusevski, Richarlison). Kane may stay (admittedly I wouldn't). There is some decent youth coming through. There is plenty to do but with the right DOF we should have some funds to buy what we need.
My point is that it is fixable.
The only bit of that I agree with are your 2 last sentences.3 managers who didn’t win a trophy. Fuck trophies. That’s the carrot we’ve had dangling in front of us that has allowed Levy to do untold damage to the club. And still he hasn’t delivered. Let’s get back to basics. Giving the crowd something worth watching.
Which is why I appreciate you trying to do it. For the 1st 10 years I was very much in favour of Levy. But the criticisms he is now getting, were present during those years too. So you making out it is hindsight or retrospect is simply not true.My point the criticism is excessive. I did not say there is legitimate criticism.
Putting across an unpopular point of view is pretty hard in the hostile environment of this thread.
I don't think they're necessarily said to criticise our improved financial situation, but more that the priorities of the club are not set up correctly to excel at football, and that much more attention seems to have been given to revenue generating concerns. Of course we need to do that work, but it should be servicing football and football must be the club's primary focus.TBH it's posts like this that really don't help.
The amount of Levy posts that criticise our improved financial situation, is truly bizarre.
The fact that you state as fact that Kane is leaving slightly weakens your argument. I don't expect him to stay but he might.We've floundered since we sacked Poch for daring to claim that we needed a "painful rebuild". He was absolutely right and we've declined over the past 4 years.
You've named 4 players, 1 of which has a serious injury, 2 of which the jury's still very much out on and the other has massive holes in his game in terms of discipline. The fact you only named those 4 shows a lot. We'll soon have 1st choice no goalkeeper, no 20-goal plus striker, no creative midfielder and we'll be significantly lacking in the spine of the team.
We're in long-term decline UNLESS we do something about it now. That's in parallel to the likes of Newcastle overtaking us.
I don't think Levy fucks up because of priorities. I think he fucks up because he's a control freak.I don't think they're necessarily said to criticise our improved financial situation, but more that the priorities of the club are not set up correctly to excel at football, and that much more attention seems to have been given to revenue generating concerns. Of course we need to do that work, but it should be servicing football and football must be the club's primary focus.
I believe a few years back the argument was that once the stadium was built, we'd be financially huge and everything would solve itself. Personally I was always suspicious of that being the case, and so it's not hindsight.
And yes, since the stadium opened we have invested more in players (though that wasn't hard), albeit still keeping more financial head room than any other club in the world.
Instead what has been revealed is a complete lack of vision, or even mere competency, from those upstairs. In many ways this is even more scary than simply being tightwads because it means our chairman and de-facto director of football has no idea how to succeed even with a financial powerhouse of a club.
People? Only 1 in this thread that I can see.It’s quite astounding there are still people supporting the bald bastard still. Astounding.
I find it equally annoying that people are so profoundly negative about our current situation. It's bad, and no spurs fan is enjoying but to suggest that we are in self-inflicted long-term decline (your analogy to post-Brexit England) I just cannot see.
Yes, my slight hyperbole maybe slightly weakens my argument. It doesn't dimiss it all though and there's a strong chance we have 1 year of Kane left.The fact that you state as fact that Kane is leaving slightly weakens your argument. I don't expect him to stay but he might.
I guess we will have to see what Levy does.
No one. But how does him running the business side well become a criticism?Who wakes up on match day and thinks i cant wait to see what business deal Levy has done today?
Nobody!
#Levyout
Agree that Conte was a significant part of the problem but that's far from the root cause. He just made it worse.I said long-term decline. It's been a shit season, but before Conte lost total interest (pre-World Cup) we were well placed. I am surprised how little anger is directed at Conte, not so much for losing interest, but for his totally unprofessional rant after the Southampton game which has fed the media frenzy.
I agree that the squad needs work but we have a good core to work with (Romero, Betancur, Kulusevski, Richarlison). Kane may stay (admittedly I wouldn't). There is some decent youth coming through. There is plenty to do but with the right DOF we should have some funds to buy what we need.
My point is that it is fixable.
Think they are highlighting were the Boards priority is. The football side of things are being neglected or they just aren't as important.No one. But how does him running the business side well become a criticism?