Aymeric Laporte

Bluto Blutarsky said:

We have to reduce squad size before we can bring in new players.

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Chello90 said:

The same happens every summer.

1. Abject failure to shift unwanted players.
2. Use that as an excuse as to why we can't properly refresh the squad.
3. Shift a few of those players late in the window.
4. By then it's too late to sign high calibre players as selling clubs generally don't want to sell with 1-2 weeks to find their own replacements.
5. Leave the manager short in 2 or 3 key areas and eventually they're on the hook.

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What Lies Beneath said:

Players rep has told us he don’t wanna go there but money talks ! Fee from a premier league team will be 25/30 million. Tottenham have to shift players

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rossdapep said:

Was thinking before....

People often state what a waste of money Ndombele has been - it's true.

I imagine the club feel exactly the same and are worried that they won't make money back.

But that is surely 'cancelled out' by the fact we got these players for incredible fees.
- Bentancur
- Udogie
- Maddison
- Bissouma

All four of these we have ended up paying under market valuation, in fact some (Bentancur) have been absolute steals.

Then you add Solomon (free) Sarr (cheap) to the calculation and SURELY the club can cancel some players contracts and take a hit on them to ensure they get key players in?

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KingNick said:

But is not the numbers preventing us bringing new players in, it’s the overall financial liability of a big squad in terms of wages.

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Chello90 said:

The same happens every summer.

1. Abject failure to shift unwanted players.
2. Use that as an excuse as to why we can't properly refresh the squad.
3. Shift a few of those players late in the window.
4. By then it's too late to sign high calibre players as selling clubs generally don't want to sell with 1-2 weeks to find their own replacements.
5. Leave the manager short in 2 or 3 key areas and eventually they're on the hook.

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Bluto Blutarsky said:

We just sold a player for £100M - finances are not holding us back.

We are currently over the non-HG limit of players in the squad - we need to move several out before we can bring any in.

Certainly, we can simply not register some of them - but that still does not solve the long-term problem that is created by having them on the books - some of whom are still on multi-year deals.

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What Lies Beneath said:

We probs would have finished our window had we got rid of 6/7 but they’re still here . 2 weeks left to bring 3 in and get 7 out running out of time .

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KingNick said:

Sorry I just don’t follow your argument.

As you concede, we can simply not register players we don’t plan to use and register those we bring in instead. Therefore total numbers are irrelevant.

Might not be fair on those players but other clubs have done it (how many registered players did Chelsea have last year 50+?) but they should work harder with their agents to get moves away and accept lesser deals where necessary to do so.

there is literally no benefit in cancelling contracts. If they have multi years left on Their contracts then we have to pay them off for those years as well. An even bigger waste of money when there’s still a chance that in one of the next three transfer windows we could get them Out on loan.

It’s quite clear that the reason Levy wants players out before he brings more in is because he doesn’t want to pay players we have no use for. Paying off players is the same end result as keeping them and not using them.

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Chello90 said:

The same happens every summer.

1. Abject failure to shift unwanted players.
2. Use that as an excuse as to why we can't properly refresh the squad.
3. Shift a few of those players late in the window.
4. By then it's too late to sign high calibre players as selling clubs generally don't want to sell with 1-2 weeks to find their own replacements.
5. Leave the manager short in 2 or 3 key areas and eventually they're on the hook.

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KingNick said:

But is not the numbers preventing us bringing new players in, it’s the overall financial liability of a big squad in terms of wages.

cancelling contracts has the same financial consequence as keeping the players as they have to be paid out in full anyway. So there is no benefit cancelling a contract rather than keeping a player and simply not playing him. And At least that way we still have a back up if required come the next window or can seek to loan and get a contribution to wages. .

in fact, The threat of keeping a player on that basis should actually work in our favour to get players to accept moves where we don’t have to pay wages unnecessarily.

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felmani26 said:

Except this hinders progress thus reducing our chances of success - be it finishing higher in the league or winning silverware.

Both however result in a net gain as opposed to this stalemate where nobody wins, well unless your Ndombele pocketing £200k p/w for sitting on your arse.

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WiganSpur said:

It is one man's responsibility to ensure players are either sold or loaned (with wages covered) to ensure that incomings can be signed in a timely fashion though isn't it. Which ever way you cut it, it's not good enough.

We have had months to be lining up deals to get players out the door. Ange can still be making assessments whilst that happens. Agree some bloody fees for possible outs and then let Ange pull the plug if he wants. But seems we've just been asleep and waited until the start of the season.

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