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hellava_tough

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Well I guess we're always looking for reinforcements to the squad around December/January

Sign RB now and if worse comes to worse, he'll be fit and ready to go for the tricky Christmas schedule

We should be alright until then (y)
 

BehindEnemyLines

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I'd be very dubious about any medical on Am injured player. Everton must be kicking themselves that they didn't fold on the price earlier, as there's no way Levy will pay even close to £30m now.
 

GetSpurredOn

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This is an odd transfer.
Realistically, he'll be in that advanced 3 of 4231, so we'll have Alli, Eriksen, Lamela, Son, Sissoko?, Nkoudou and Barkley, 7 players for 3 starting spots.
I get that he gives us something slightly different, but we're now talking about adding another option too, a pacy powerful runner in the Balde/Martial mould.
There was a suggestion Barkley would be a backup option at CM also? But it appears we're close to signing Diop as a young project for CM.
Am I missing something here, are we going to be overloaded? Or are we expecting further departures?
 

Rob

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I'd be very dubious about any medical on Am injured player. Everton must be kicking themselves that they didn't fold on the price earlier, as there's no way Levy will pay even close to £30m now.

Medical's assess underlying or long term injuries. We've signed "injured" players before as have most clubs.
 

GetSpurredOn

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I'd be very dubious about any medical on Am injured player. Everton must be kicking themselves that they didn't fold on the price earlier, as there's no way Levy will pay even close to £30m now.

Wonder if it'll be much more incentive driven now. Less upfront cash, but payments based on appearances etc. To prove his fitness. I'm no expert on the rigours of medicals, but I'd assume not everything can be run through if the player is carrying a specific injury. Big gamble signing an injured player I'd have thought, unless there are known protocols based on historic incidents.
 

spids

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This is an odd transfer.
Realistically, he'll be in that advanced 3 of 4231, so we'll have Alli, Eriksen, Lamela, Son, Sissoko?, Nkoudou and Barkley, 7 players for 3 starting spots.
I get that he gives us something slightly different, but we're now talking about adding another option too, a pacy powerful runner in the Balde/Martial mould.
There was a suggestion Barkley would be a backup option at CM also? But it appears we're close to signing Diop as a young project for CM.
Am I missing something here, are we going to be overloaded? Or are we expecting further departures?

It's a good point.

In CM we have Dembele, Wanyama, Dier, Winks and supposedly Diop competing for 2 spots. Onomah's long term future is also in this position.

In AM positions we have Dele, Eriksen, Son, Lamela, Nkoudou, and Sissoko competing for 3 positions. However, Sissoko is not good enough, Son also back up for CF and Lamela a long term crock. So one more player who can play ACM and let Dele / Eriksen be rotated makes sense.
 

coy-spurs1882

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This is an odd transfer.
Realistically, he'll be in that advanced 3 of 4231, so we'll have Alli, Eriksen, Lamela, Son, Sissoko?, Nkoudou and Barkley, 7 players for 3 starting spots.
I get that he gives us something slightly different, but we're now talking about adding another option too, a pacy powerful runner in the Balde/Martial mould.
There was a suggestion Barkley would be a backup option at CM also? But it appears we're close to signing Diop as a young project for CM.
Am I missing something here, are we going to be overloaded? Or are we expecting further departures?
barkley replaces sissoko, wide forward replaces gkn or janssen?
 

doctor stefan Freud

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This is an odd transfer.
Realistically, he'll be in that advanced 3 of 4231, so we'll have Alli, Eriksen, Lamela, Son, Sissoko?, Nkoudou and Barkley, 7 players for 3 starting spots.
I get that he gives us something slightly different, but we're now talking about adding another option too, a pacy powerful runner in the Balde/Martial mould.
There was a suggestion Barkley would be a backup option at CM also? But it appears we're close to signing Diop as a young project for CM.
Am I missing something here, are we going to be overloaded? Or are we expecting further departures?
I don't think Poch feels GNK and Sissoko are of the required standard and Lamela is likely out for a couple of months yet. If anything, given Barkley's new injury and the fact he'll need time after recovery gaining match fitness, we're potentially light in this area for a couple of months at least.
 

dagraham

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A grade three hamstring tear is more likely to be 2-3 months, especially for a player who is coming back from a hernia operation and has missed all of pre-season. Poch won't be able to use him properly until the end of the year, by which time his value (if still at Everton) would be considerably less than what they are demanding now. Levy would be mad to pay £30m for an injured player with only 10 months of his contract to run. We could get him for £15m in Jan (when he'd be fully fit) or for free in June. That money could be used to give all of our star players an extra £30k per week. I'd much rather Levy waited and did that than buy a player Poch can't use now.

And what if another club realises that it's a long term buy, not a short term fix and buys him while we piss about worrying about a hamstring injury?

He is suppose to be Poch's number 1 transfer target and we're going to pass because he has torn a hamstring? We are not talking about a player in the latter part of his career with a long history of hamstring injuries that have robbed him of his pace, we are just talking about a simple injury that's happened at the wrong time.

Or should we buy a worse player who will be better than Sissoko until October, but worse than Barkley for the next 4/5 years after that?
 

GetSpurredOn

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I'm wondering whether we actually go for a CF, or just use Alli/Son/Barkley as false 9. The movement between our attacking players is so fluid, that it may well serve the same purpose. Alli and Son scored more goals than most strikers last year.
Barkley brings some added power on the ball too.
 

SEANSPURS1975

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This doesn't look good. Supposedly a scan has revealed a hamstring tear. Six weeks or so out with hardly any pre-season training.
It could be a couple of months at least before he's ready for selection.
Cannot see us paying huge money for an injured player when we could just wait until January?
I really want us to sign Barkley, but there is no way Levy will be paying massive money for him now.
Hopefully we can get Everton to lower their asking price and the deal still gets done.
However, we also run the risk of someone else coming in and paying what Everton want.
As I said this doesn't look good.
 

spids

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And what if another club realises that it's a long term buy, not a short term fix and buys him while we piss about worrying about a hamstring injury?

He is suppose to be Poch's number 1 transfer target and we're going to pass because he has torn a hamstring? We are not talking about a player in the latter part of his career with a long history of hamstring injuries that have robbed him of his pace, we are just talking about a simple injury that's happened at the wrong time.

Or should we buy a worse player who will be better than Sissoko until October, but worse than Barkley for the next 4/5 years after that?

That's a risk I'd expect Levy to take. Spending £30m on a player who can't play for months and will be worth half that in 4 months time anyway would be financially negligent.
 
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