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StartingPrice

Chief Sardonicus Hyperlip
Feb 13, 2004
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Our fans are such a bunch of losers. That part of your post was spot on. You can see them now saying we've got no chance of top 5.. financially deficient, crap players.. and oh and Everton will probably over take us and my life is so shit and there just is no point.

Personally I see a new manager, 5-6 top drawer players with a point to prove and a season under their belt. I dont see why we need to throw the towel in just yet.

And thats not mentioning the new signings I would expect us to make

Exactly.
I suspect that a lot of our younger fans just don't appreciate their history enough to understand just why we have every right to aspire to the very top* and a lot of our older fans are used to seeing one of the former Big Five shoot themselves in the foot and be conspired against by circumstance.

* At the point at our rivals jumped, gleefully on the CL/EPL money train while we went sailing down the swanny with one paddle, we had won one less trophy than the Goons, and while you could point to their superior league title record, we could point to our 3 European trophies to their (then) zero; likewise, with United, we had approxmately the same number of trophies, and while their European Cup had greater prestige, we (again) had three European trophies to their one - and yet no-one found it incongruous that they should aspire to the very top, or that there was an ongoing media countdown from the last time they had won the league. The only team to be streets ahead of us, as with everyone, was Liverpool, but even that was thanks largely to Bill Shankley and an astutely managed chain of managerial succession. When Shankley took over, we had won the league twice in a decade, been the first team to win the double, the first team to win a European trophy (I think, the dates work) and held the record attendance figure, whole they were the smaller team in Liverpool and in the (then) Second Division (the equivalent of the Championship). The way folk make the period of dominance enjoyed by Liverpool and United, and the Goons relative trophy glut coinciding with our drought thanks to (swanny trip) really does my head in. We can aspire as high as we want...and have every right to do so. The only question should be whether we can achieve it. And right now, we have seven players of quality with a year in EPL, and a years' experience full stop, as well as several other top quality players, and one of the best, if not the best, youth set-ups/youth personnel in the country. No-one knows how it will work out with a new Head Coach and the squad we have, but there is more reason to be excited than not, IMHO.

Just to clarify: I'm not writing Liverpool off, by any means. They are a year ahead of where I expected them to be, thanks largely to a great reason aided by a fair chunk of luck, and keeping Suarez last Summer even though it meant going against their requirement of cutting the wage bill. But their best two players are Gerard and Suarez. Gerard is approaching a season too far, and Suarez will be sold. Their squad isn't particularly deep and wasn't pushed by European football last season. I expect teams to give them less space next season - much like they did with us under Redknapp when they figured out that attacking us and leaving acres of space was lethal. I don't think that will suit either Sturridge or Sterling, neither of whom has even passed the one hit wonder test, yet. And there is no guarantee that their incomings will make any more immediate an impact than ours did. What they have over us is their renown and a higher revenue, which will allow them to attract and pay the better quality players that having a year in CL should do - and that was why I was so peeved that we seemed to see our season out with a whimper from the Spurs/Liverpool game at the Lane, on. We needed to hammer home our recent superiority because they are a serious danger right now. But I still see nothing to state absolutely that they will cement a place in the top four. They have been relatively eclipsed recently for a reason - and that is that Citeh, Chelsea, United and the Goons all have higher revenues than them.

I think we have every right to look forward to, at least, a good push at the top four. Anything else, I couldn't say until we see all transfer dealings, how much players have improved (The Beatles, in particular), and how well we adapt to The Poch's ways, for our part.
 

CowInAComa

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Aug 31, 2012
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Exactly.
I suspect that a lot of our younger fans just don't appreciate their history enough to understand just why we have every right to aspire to the very top* and a lot of our older fans are used to seeing one of the former Big Five shoot themselves in the foot and be conspired against by circumstance.

* At the point at our rivals jumped, gleefully on the CL/EPL money train while we went sailing down the swanny with one paddle, we had won one less trophy than the Goons, and while you could point to their superior league title record, we could point to our 3 European trophies to their (then) zero; likewise, with United, we had approxmately the same number of trophies, and while their European Cup had greater prestige, we (again) had three European trophies to their one - and yet no-one found it incongruous that they should aspire to the very top, or that there was an ongoing media countdown from the last time they had won the league. The only team to be streets ahead of us, as with everyone, was Liverpool, but even that was thanks largely to Bill Shankley and an astutely managed chain of managerial succession. When Shankley took over, we had won the league twice in a decade, been the first team to win the double, the first team to win a European trophy (I think, the dates work) and held the record attendance figure, whole they were the smaller team in Liverpool and in the (then) Second Division (the equivalent of the Championship). The way folk make the period of dominance enjoyed by Liverpool and United, and the Goons relative trophy glut coinciding with our drought thanks to (swanny trip) really does my head in. We can aspire as high as we want...and have every right to do so. The only question should be whether we can achieve it. And right now, we have seven players of quality with a year in EPL, and a years' experience full stop, as well as several other top quality players, and one of the best, if not the best, youth set-ups/youth personnel in the country. No-one knows how it will work out with a new Head Coach and the squad we have, but there is more reason to be excited than not, IMHO.

Just to clarify: I'm not writing Liverpool off, by any means. They are a year ahead of where I expected them to be, thanks largely to a great reason aided by a fair chunk of luck, and keeping Suarez last Summer even though it meant going against their requirement of cutting the wage bill. But their best two players are Gerard and Suarez. Gerard is approaching a season too far, and Suarez will be sold. Their squad isn't particularly deep and wasn't pushed by European football last season. I expect teams to give them less space next season - much like they did with us under Redknapp when they figured out that attacking us and leaving acres of space was lethal. I don't think that will suit either Sturridge or Sterling, neither of whom has even passed the one hit wonder test, yet. And there is no guarantee that their incomings will make any more immediate an impact than ours did. What they have over us is their renown and a higher revenue, which will allow them to attract and pay the better quality players that having a year in CL should do - and that was why I was so peeved that we seemed to see our season out with a whimper from the Spurs/Liverpool game at the Lane, on. We needed to hammer home our recent superiority because they are a serious danger right now. But I still see nothing to state absolutely that they will cement a place in the top four. They have been relatively eclipsed recently for a reason - and that is that Citeh, Chelsea, United and the Goons all have higher revenues than them.

I think we have every right to look forward to, at least, a good push at the top four. Anything else, I couldn't say until we see all transfer dealings, how much players have improved (The Beatles, in particular), and how well we adapt to The Poch's ways, for our part.

Ihe irony was, if you had read the Liverpool forums in the weeks leading up to the start of last season they were saying exactly the same as us now. That we were streaking ahead, we were buying up all the best players, the gap was insurmountable. Blah de blah.

Things change quickly in football, we were what 18months(?) between our 2 point from 8 games season and champions league at the bernabau. A good start, even a good result can propel a team to great achievements. I genuinely believe that Liverpools title challenge last season was a combination of a decent start and then the huge expectations of the liverpool fans had of maintaining it.

Conversely, when we were on fire and in 3rd spot that season, our fans were all gloom and pessimism, playing down our chances and even talking of happy with 5th, punching above our weight etc
 

We'llWinThePrem

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Oct 28, 2010
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League Position: 5th

Trophy predictions: QF Europa League, QF FA Cup, WINNER Capital One Cup

Player of the season: Eriksen

Flop of the season: Dembele

Best youngster: Kane

Top Scorer: Adebayor

Top Assists: Eriksen

Fan Favourite: Eriksen

Scapegoat(s): Paulinho

Moment/Result of the Season: Winning the COC

Transfers IN: Davies, Lascelles, Remy

Transfers Out: Livermore, Dawson, Sigurdsson, Assou-Ekotto, Naughton, Soldado, Fryers (on loan)

Pochettino's XI:
Lloris
Walker Chiriches Vertonghen Davies
Paulinho Capoue
Lamela Eriksen Remy
Adebayor
 
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yankspurs

Enic Out
Aug 22, 2013
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Our fans are such a bunch of losers. That part of your post was spot on. You can see them now saying we've got no chance of top 5.. financially deficient, crap players.. and oh and Everton will probably over take us and my life is so shit and there just is no point.

Personally I see a new manager, 5-6 top drawer players with a point to prove and a season under their belt. I dont see why we need to throw the towel in just yet.

And thats not mentioning the new signings I would expect us to make
Our fans have the absolute worst mentality and its disgraceful, IMO. Its like what is the point of even playing thr games? Why dont we just give up?
 

StartingPrice

Chief Sardonicus Hyperlip
Feb 13, 2004
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Ihe irony was, if you had read the Liverpool forums in the weeks leading up to the start of last season they were saying exactly the same as us now. That we were streaking ahead, we were buying up all the best players, the gap was insurmountable. Blah de blah.

Things change quickly in football, we were what 18months(?) between our 2 point from 8 games season and champions league at the bernabau. A good start, even a good result can propel a team to great achievements. I genuinely believe that Liverpools title challenge last season was a combination of a decent start and then the huge expectations of the liverpool fans had of maintaining it.

Conversely, when we were on fire and in 3rd spot that season, our fans were all gloom and pessimism, playing down our chances and even talking of happy with 5th, punching above our weight etc

Too true.

I've said this before, on here, and been scoffed at for doing so - but attitudes that become pervasive on here, can influence the attitude members of this forum (and others) going into a game, members of a crowd influence one another, and the crowd has an influence on the players. Supporters are supposed to support the team (the 12th man, and all...well, not at OT, there that's Howard Webb). That is how I always saw it. You get agitated/boo as a final sanction - instead, what we see is the second guessing of the manager/head coach to the extent where he can't even buy/assess players without sections of the crowd deciding they know better and curdling the atmosphere. Yes, you have a right to boo, but do you really want to contribute to the team under-performing (you in generic, of course)?

FFS, we have an excellent young squad, excellent youth personnel, an excellent youth set-up, an excellent training centre and, soon, an excellent stadium - so get behind the team and see how far they can go. As opposed to drawing the most negative conclusions possible for Spurs, the best conclusions possible for our rivals and then deciding it is hardly point!

/rant! :)
 

muel

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May 17, 2005
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It's a strange one for me. My opinions are conflicting.

Glass Half Empty
Last season was one of the most negative I can remember, on and off the field and as much as I can't stand Tim he cannot be held accountable for all of those problems. So the result? here we are again! our 4th 'transition' season in a row! We don't seem to ever learn. Will the red top readers amongst our fans oust Poch if he doesn't win every game? he will need time. We will also have increased media spotlight on us, waiting to pounce with baited breath due to the mess that has been our managerial situation. Also the cynic in me can't help but feel my underlying positivity is the result of Daniel Levy doing what he does best, spin. He has this incredible knack like a parent whose kids are inconsolable at the death of the family gold fish who turns up with a puppy and before you know it Nemo is a distant memory.

Glass Half Full
We have a new manager who plays the way we fans crave, god know the WHL atmosphere needs that! the pros of his appointed are increased as it also meant getting Tim Sherwood out of our club. Our 7 signings have had a full season acclimatising so we should expect better things from them this time around, especially with a full pre-season (and being coached properly). The majority of our squad have had a full/decent summers rest with only our Belgian contingent and little paul going beyond the groups in the world cup. I didn't quite realise the extent of this until looking at the photos of the first few days of training and seeing pretty much everyone! usually all we see is Dawson and unrecognisable youth team players.

One thing is for sure. It will be a season of ups, downs, laughs, cries, false optimism and all things Spurs, and I wouldn't have it any other way!!!!

Bring on the hammers!!! COYS
 

TheUltimateHotspur

Active Member
Jul 2, 2014
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The way I see it, is we have a better head coach than we had at any time last season, both Liverpool and Everton will be in Europe, both teams look likely to lose their two best strikers, Suarez, Lukaku. I can see us challenging the scouse for 5th. I think Everton will struggle more as they don't have the funds to spend big money. Europe for them might be a big problem.

5th or 6th with a cup win would be great. COYS.
 

tommo84

Proud to be loud
Aug 15, 2005
6,223
11,288
League Position: 6th

Trophy predictions: Europa Lge S/Fs, FA Cup Q/Fs, Capital One Cup 4th Rd

Player of the season: Eriksen

Flop of the season: Chadli

Best youngster: Lamela (if he counts as a youngster)

Top Scorer : Adebayor

Top Assists: Eriksen

Fan Favourite: Eriksen

Scapegoat(s): Davies (or whoever the new left-back is)

Moment/Result of the Season: Making it 3 in a row at Old Trafford

Transfers IN: Remy, Davies, a Centre-back (possibly Dutch)

Transfers Out: Dawson, Sigurdsson, Assou-Ekotto, Carroll, Townsend

Pochettino's XI:
Lloris
Walker - Chiriches - Vertonghen - Davies
Sandro - Paulinho
Lamela - Holtby - Eriksen
Adebayor
 

tototoner

Staying Alert
Mar 21, 2004
29,402
34,111
League Position: 6th

Trophy predictions:
last 16 Europa League
4th Rd FA Cup
QF Capital One Cup

Player of the season: Eriksen

Flop of the season: haven't signed him yet

Best youngster: Tom Carroll

Top Scorer: Haven't signed him yet, deja vu

Top Assists: Eriksen

Fan Favourite: Lloris

Scapegoat(s): Paulinho

Moment/Result of the Season: signing some Argentina wonderkid on 31 Aug and all the fans getting excited for a week

Transfers IN: no idea but need 2 forwards, CB and LB

Davies looks most likely for LB, Lovern and Bony will go to Liverpool, Remy to Arsenal

Transfers Out: Livermore, Dawson, Adebayor, Sigurdsson, Assou-Ekotto, False, Rose , Kaboul

Pochettino's XI:

Lloris
Walker- Chiriches - Vertonghen- Davies*
Sandro- Paulinho
Lamela- Eriksen- Chadli
Soldado
 

RuskyM

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Jul 9, 2011
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I think we'll be more impressive, but the league form won't show it. Kind of like the difference between Liverpool under Dalglish and the first year under Rodgers - the improvements are there, but they're taking time. I expect we'll give a fair bit more of a challenge to the big boys, and hopefully be a bit less susceptible to the clubs down the table with bite.

I'd say we'd give fourth a good old go since with a very lacklustre side we still weren't a million miles away but I think Man City, Chelsea & Arsenal'll be too good and United will be rejuvenated. Liverpool are hard to tell, won't be as good as last year without Suarez but whether they'll collapse entirely is doubtful.

Respectable sixth.
 

424style

New Member
Jul 13, 2014
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If I would be boss and decide I would do like this:

GK Lloris (Archer, Friedel)
DR Walker (Naughton)
DC Kaboul (Chiriches)
DC Vertonghen (Dawson)
DL Rose/Ekotto (Fryerz, loan him out?)
DMC Sandro (Capoue)
BTBM Dembele (Paulinho)
AML Lennon (Chadli)
AMC Eriksen (Sigurdsson) Holtby (sell him and make a profit?)
AMR Lamela (Townsend)
FC Adebayor/Soldado (buy Bony? to have different options)

Id like us to play the ball more on the ground with wingers cutting in with their wrong foot and a more technical short passing football.

We need to balance the economy so id think it would be unwise to spend lots of cash. Now we got Ekotto back we dont need to buy a leftback. We have cash, splash them on a third striker who is young (like Bony) and can grow, has PL experience and we can make a profit in the future or hell stay at Spurs for long. Make some good cash from Holtby or Sigurdsson maybe, dont need 3 amcs. These are my thoughts.
 

266in379

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Jun 20, 2012
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Now we got Ekotto back we dont need to buy a leftback

I admire your optimism. I only hope Pochettino doesn't share it! I could only be enthusiastic about having Benny back if The Hud was still here. I'd love to see that headbutt.

Our LB was a reliable route to goals for our opposition last season. I'd hope that we spend our cash improving on Rose and ensuring that Dawson never faces another Aguero/Navas/Negredo/Suarez/Hazard for us again.
 
May 22, 2014
47
196
League Position: 4th

Trophy predictions: Final of Europa League, QF FA Cup, QF Capital One Cup

Player of the season: Lloris

Flop of the season: Whoever is at LB

Best youngster: We don't really have many who will play, so I'll say Kane

Top Scorer Soldado

Top Assists: Eriksen

Fan Favourite: Lamela

Scapegoat(s): Walker & Adebayor

Moment/Result of the Season: Beating Arsenal at home, 5-0.

Transfers IN: Maybe Davies & a younger player, nobody big.

Transfers Out: Siggy, Carroll (loan) Daws, Livermore (already gone) Assou-Ekotto.

Pochettino's XI:
Lloris
Walker- Chiriches - Vertonghen - LB
Sandro or Capoue
Lamela- Eriksen- Lennon
Adebayor - Soldado
 

WalkerboyUK

Well-Known Member
Jun 8, 2009
21,658
23,476
League: 7th or 8th
Cups: 1/4 Finals of Europa, 4th Round of FA, WIN the Capital One

I think we will play more exciting football under Poch, but I think the standard inconsistency across the period of a season will be the same as always. Top 5 (in no specific order) will be United, Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Liverpool.
Everton will be up with us again, and I actually think Newcastle will be vastly improved on last season too.

We will get some silverware though.
 
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