2016/2017 fixtures

[Rob]

Also just a reminder that posting the fixture list in full still has various legal issues (which get muddier ever season).

Please don't do it!

 

[Sweech]

A bit simplistic view IMO. I think we can all agree, that batches of certain teams in a row, has the possibility to affect confidence massively either way. Hitting these "harder" fixtures after a good run while confidence is high, has the ability to affect the result somewhat. Couple that with how the run of our opponents up until our meeting is, and the scheduling might not be all that unimportant.

Because "form" is a thing and there's a psychological aspect to it. If the game was played by robots then you might be right but it's not.

Also other commitments (a busy international tournament vs a summer off) can heavily affect games at both ends of the season, as can fixture congestion, cup runs, Europe, etc.

Saying "they all play the same games in the end" and ignoring the order and its subsequent implications is just wrong.

You did ask

The problem is thinking you know what is a difficult fixture and what is an easy one at this stage.

Was anyone thinking Leicester would be a difficult fixture this time last year? What about Man U or Chelsea? How did people feel about Newcastle?

There's a level of chaos, especially this year with so many new managers and a few squads that may be totally overhauled that make predicting the difficulty of fixtures mute. Like you just mentioned form, there's no way to know when we'll be rolling into a fixture on form/off form or the opposition.

Not to mention the fact cup games may postpone fixtures as well.

 

[Rob]

I'm not saying you can assess ahead of time whether it's a "good" list or not. It's all an interconnected system and how other teams are performing has to feed into it as well.

My whole point is that at the end of the season you can't say "we all played the same games, the order didn't matter" as it clearly has to have a strong influence.

 

[Flashp]

The problem is thinking you know what is a difficult fixture and what is an easy one at this stage.

Was anyone thinking Leicester would be a difficult fixture this time last year? What about Man U or Chelsea? How did people feel about Newcastle?

There's a level of chaos, especially this year with so many new managers and a few squads that may be totally overhauled that make predicting the difficulty of fixtures mute. Like you just mentioned form, there's no way to know when we'll be rolling into a fixture on form/off form or the opposition.

Not to mention the fact cup games may postpone fixtures as well.

Whilst I agree that you cannot predict exactly at this time how each and every team will perform, the hardest fixtures will most probably be those against the normal top teams. Granted, there might be an exception here or there like Leicester last season.

Also, I think most would agree that it's best to avoid the promoted teams in the first 5 or so games, as most of them seem to overperform at the start of the season, and then falter. Likewise, I would prefer to avoid any of the predicted relegation candidates in the last 5 or so games of the season, as they'll be fighting for their lives at that point.

 

[waresy]

Saturday...

Lost me there, has to be fake. Saturday, yeah whatever!

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Someone actually spent the time making all that up

Premier League ‏@PLSpokesman 1h1 hour ago
Official Statement: "We understand the excitement that a new set of Premier League fixtures holds to the fans and media." 1/3

Premier League ‏@PLSpokesman 1h1 hour ago
"What has been put into the public domain over this last weekend is a hoax." 2/3

Premier League ‏@PLSpokesman 1h1 hour ago
"We would encourage all fans and media to wait for the official release on 15 June.” 3/3

 

[Lighty64]

Saturday 10th September 2016 Chelsea v Tottenham Hotspur

Tuesday/Wednesday Champs League Group match1

Saturday 17th September 2016 Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United


Saturday 24th September 2016 Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool

Tuesday/Wednesday Champs League Group match2

Saturday 1st October 2016 Bournemouth v Tottenham Hotspur



Saturday 15th October 2016 Tottenham Hotspur v Sunderland

Tuesday/Wednesday Champs League Group match3

Saturday 22nd October 2016 Crystal Palace v Tottenham Hotspur



Saturday 29th October 2016 Tottenham Hotspur v Middlesborough

Tuesday/Wednesday Champs League Group match4

Saturday 5th November 2016 Everton v Tottenham Hotspur



Saturday 19th November 2016 Tottenham Hotspur v Leicester City

Tuesday/Wednesday Champs League Group match5

Saturday 26th November 2016 Burnley v Tottenham Hotspur



Saturday 3rd December 2016 Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham United

Tuesday/Wednesday Champs League Group match6

Saturday 10th December 2016 Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur

if the fixtures are correct we have some tough fixtures either side of our groupmatches, which I feel finding a Dembele cover pretty important of we really want to compete on both fronts

@Rob if the above is not allowed please remove

 

[Lighty64]

Someone actually spent the time making all that up

Premier League ‏@PLSpokesman 1h1 hour ago
Official Statement: "We understand the excitement that a new set of Premier League fixtures holds to the fans and media." 1/3

Premier League ‏@PLSpokesman 1h1 hour ago
"What has been put into the public domain over this last weekend is a hoax." 2/3

Premier League ‏@PLSpokesman 1h1 hour ago
"We would encourage all fans and media to wait for the official release on 15 June.” 3/3

blow it I just wasted 10 mins on the above post

 

[TheChosenOne]

I am wondering at what point some scrote is going to start spouting "mind the gap" ?

 

[cliff jones]

Have we still not learn't that it doesn't matter who you play but how you play.

Newcastle away was only a few weeks ago....

And the third dimension is who is available for selection. An injured Kane, with no job share signed before the season starts, on top of a suspended Dembele, would mean we'd struggle to beat anyone. One key injury, just like the whole of last season, is all it would take...

Have faith, I hear people say, it's different now, well we didn't address the Kane issue in any of the last three windows, so if I lack confidence in an early deal anyone can see why.

 

[spurs mental]

I've just trawled through the opening fixtures for all 23 PL seasons, taking us, Arsenal, United, Liverpool and Chelsea opening games. This is actually disgusting reading.

In 23 seasons Spurs have had 7 opening games at home, 1 of which was postponed due to riots, so we actually played our first game away to United the weekend after everyone else. That means we've had 16 opening games away from home. Our first opening game at WHL came in the PL's 6th season, and it came vs United.

Next lowest for home games is Liverpool, with 10. Then it's United, surprisingly with 12. Chelsea come next with 14 home opening games. Chelsea didn't actually play an opening away game until the 5th PL season.

Arsenal lead the way of these 5 teams though, with an astonishing 16(sixteen!!!!!) home opening day fixtures. They didn't play their first opening game away until the 6th season of the PL.

Anyone who says this computer generates random fixtures is bullshitting. Either that or the guy who created it supports one of Arsenal or Chelsea.

This was my post last season before or after the fixtures were released I can't remember which. If we are at home for the first game of the season I will be absolutely astonished.

 

[mickdale]

blow it I just wasted 10 mins on the above post

that makes two of us

 

[Shadydan]

I am wondering at what point some scrote is going to start spouting "mind the gap" ?

Now!

Mind the gap hehe

 

[yankspurs]

Someone actually spent the time making all that up

Premier League ‏@PLSpokesman 1h1 hour ago
Official Statement: "We understand the excitement that a new set of Premier League fixtures holds to the fans and media." 1/3

Premier League ‏@PLSpokesman 1h1 hour ago
"What has been put into the public domain over this last weekend is a hoax." 2/3

Premier League ‏@PLSpokesman 1h1 hour ago
"We would encourage all fans and media to wait for the official release on 15 June.” 3/3

Saying something's a hoax is the easiest cop out to anything. It's like when someone post something incredibly stupid on twitter. The next thing you read from them is "sorry i was hacked". Its complete bullshit 99.999999999999% of the time. So no, this means nothing. If you actually believed that statement from the league, i have a barrell of oil to sell you. All it does is it gives the league cover to now go ahead and change things before the schedule is officially released.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

Saying something's a hoax is the easiest cop out to anything. It's like when someone post something incredibly stupid on twitter. The next thing you read from them is "sorry i was hacked". Its complete bullshit 99.999999999999% of the time. So no, this means nothing. If you actually believed that statement from the league, i have a barrell of oil to sell you. All it does is it gives the league cover to now go ahead and change things before the schedule is officially released.

It's probably a draft run they made, will be interesting to see how similar or not the real one is

 

[Lighty64]

It's probably a draft run they made, will be interesting to see how similar or not the real one is

the funny thing is with those fixtures is that September shows a difficult 3 matches, and 1 I would rather get 2 of ops out the way as early as possible before the new managers make their mark, and 2 we had a very difficult run in November last season, so we can cope

 

[Kspur]

This happens every year. Normally it's the trial run gets leaked.

 

[FreddieYid]

If real looks quite good for us

Why are we not playing Stoke or West Brom at home next season?

 

[neilp]

Saturday 13th August 2016 Tottenham Hotspur v Swansea City

Saturday 20th August 2016 Stoke City v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday 27th August 2016 Tottenham Hotspur v Hull City

Saturday 10th September 2016 Chelsea v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday 17th September 2016 Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United

Saturday 24th September 2016 Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool

Saturday 1st October 2016 Bournemouth v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday 15th October 2016 Tottenham Hotspur v Sunderland

Saturday 22nd October 2016 Crystal Palace v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday 29th October 2016 Tottenham Hotspur v Middlesborough

Saturday 5th November 2016 Everton v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday 19th November 2016 Tottenham Hotspur v Leicester City

Saturday 26th November 2016 Burnley v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday 3rd December 2016 Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham United

Saturday 17th December 2016 Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal

Tuesday 20th December 2016 Watford v Tottenham Hotspur (19.45)

Monday 26th December 2016 West Bromwich Albion v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday 31st December 2016 Tottenham Hotspur v Southampton

Monday 2nd January 2017 Liverpool v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday 14th January 2017 Tottenham Hotspur v Bournemouth

Saturday 21st January 2017 Sunderland v Tottenham Hotspur

Wednesday 1st February 2017 Tottenham Hotspur v Crystal Palace (19.45)

Saturday 4th February 2017 Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday 11th February 2017 Swansea City v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday 25th February 2017 Tottenham Hotspur v Chelsea

Saturday 4th March 2017 Hull City v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday 11th March 2017 Tottenham Hotspur v Stoke City

Saturday 18th March 2017 Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester City

Saturday 1st April 2017 West Ham United v Tottenham Hotspur

Tuesday 4th April 2017 Tottenham Hotspur v Watford (19.45)

Saturday 8th April 2017 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday 15th April 2017 Tottenham Hotspur v West Bromwich Albion

Saturday 22nd April 2017 Southampton v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday 29th April 2017 Leicester City v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday 6th May 2017 Tottenham Hotspur v Everton

Saturday 13th May 2017 Middlesborough v Tottenham Hotspur

Sunday 21st May 2017 Tottenham Hotspur v Everton v Burnley

We will never win if they only let us play 37 games

 

[mickdale]

We will never win if they only let us play 37 games

Pulled it from the list doing the rounds, must be fake if it's only 37 games