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4-2-3-1 has to stop

stevenurse

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May 14, 2007
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This fad formation from a couple of seasons ago needs to go.

It simply doesn't suit us.

A proper 4-3-3 is what we need with 2 wide forwards (Lamela and *gulp* Townsend?)

Until we get another in January anyway, maybe J Rod.
 

Bobbins

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May 5, 2005
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This fad formation from a couple of seasons ago needs to go.

It simply doesn't suit us.

A proper 4-3-3 is what we need with 2 wide forwards (Lamela and *gulp* Townsend?)

Until we get another in January anyway, maybe J Rod.

I would've though Chadli for the LWF?

Really though, would it make much difference?

Assuming:

Capou Eriksen Dembele

Lamela Soldado Chadli

Is that really drastically different to what we've been doing?

A little bit, yeah, but to be honest I think minute tactical alterations get given too much time and credit on here, mostly by Spursy Hipsters who like endless graphs and heat maps and stuff.

We were shite today, simple as, and no amount of mild tinkering with formations would've made any difference to the players barely moving off the ball, Ade being the worst target man in the league at the moment, Chiriches actually being a worse player than me, and Vertonghen sitting on the bench thinking "Fuck this".

It gets to the point where you need to say maybe it's not the graphs or Excel spreadsheets - maybe it's the motivation of the players to actually give a shit. Not many did today.
 

SoulDog

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Jan 31, 2005
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This fad formation from a couple of seasons ago needs to go.

It simply doesn't suit us.

A proper 4-3-3 is what we need with 2 wide forwards (Lamela and *gulp* Townsend?)

Until we get another in January anyway, maybe J Rod.


Why didn't he change. It to 433 today?
 

Black

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May 21, 2007
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This fad formation from a couple of seasons ago needs to go.

It simply doesn't suit us.

A proper 4-3-3 is what we need with 2 wide forwards (Lamela and *gulp* Townsend?)

Until we get another in January anyway, maybe J Rod.


We're not English mate us foreign clubs only play fancy foreign formations that tooka tooka football
 

stevenurse

Palacios' neck fat
May 14, 2007
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10,022
I would've though Chadli for the LWF?

Really though, would it make much difference?

Assuming:

Capou Eriksen Dembele

Lamela Soldado Chadli

Is that really drastically different to what we've been doing?

A little bit, yeah, but to be honest I think minute tactical alterations get given too much time and credit on here, mostly by Spursy Hipsters who like endless graphs and heat maps and stuff.

We were shite today, simple as, and no amount of mild tinkering with formations would've made any difference to the players barely moving off the ball, Ade being the worst target man in the league at the moment, Chiriches actually being a worse player than me, and Vertonghen sitting on the bench thinking "Fuck this".

It gets to the point where you need to say maybe it's not the graphs or Excel spreadsheets - maybe it's the motivation of the players to actually give a shit. Not many did today.

Completely forgot about Chadli.

Sad state of affairs when that happens
 

Franchise60

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Feb 26, 2008
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yawn. Eventually people will have to stop saying its the system/manager that is the problem, no?

We just aren't very good right now and we didn't upgrade fullback and wide forward. You get what you pay for.
 

The Scarecrow

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Jan 17, 2013
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We need a deep lying playmaker. That's the number one pressing issue imo. We never replaced Modric, and we've been shit since he left.
 

Cravenspurs

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Jul 31, 2011
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An unbalanced 4-2-3-1 needs to stop.

An unbalanced team/squad in general needs to stop actually.

Walker can't come back soon enough. Verts is an interesting case for not being in the squad as he is hands down a better layer than Chir.

The rest of the lineup Sans malaria case was sound IMO.
 

mikspurz

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Aug 17, 2008
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Don't think I can stomach following these ****s anymore. Fed up with a meddling fucking chairman and a stupid DOF system. Lack of ambition and profiteering at the expense of the fans, selling us the same old bullshit every fucking season. We are getting nowhere and going backwards. The 4-2-3-1 system is one of many problems. We should accept that the post Bale players are shit and won't develop. Chiriches is absolute shit and should never be aloud to kick a ball for us again. Kaboul is finished and I have serious doubts about Lamelas ability to adapt.
 

sunnydelight786

Chief Rocka
Jan 7, 2007
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Having a squad of players who actually give a toss would help. Seen too many of these gutless performances the last year or two for this to be just a bad day at the office....
 

SoulDog

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Jan 31, 2005
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I keep saying it but I really think Holtby could do a job,I would of liked to see him come on for eriksen today

Could of switched it today to

Dembele /Benteleb Capoue in the middle holding

........lamela/Paulhino ......,

Lennon soldado eriksen /lamela
 

DaSpurs

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Jan 20, 2013
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We need a deep lying playmaker. That's the number one pressing issue imo. We never replaced Modric, and we've been shit since he left.

Wish I could "winner" this more than once. Once upon a time it was obvious, now it's just gutting given the context of our current midfield play.
 

dude573

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Aug 31, 2012
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Wish I could "winner" this more than once. Once upon a time it was obvious, now it's just gutting given the context of our current midfield play.

Pjanic is the ideal choice for me. We'd never get him though
 

jezz

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Aug 21, 2013
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Don't think I can stomach following these ****s anymore. Fed up with a meddling fucking chairman and a stupid DOF system. Lack of ambition and profiteering at the expense of the fans, selling us the same old bullshit every fucking season. We are getting nowhere and going backwards. The 4-2-3-1 system is one of many problems. We should accept that the post Bale players are shit and won't develop. Chiriches is absolute shit and should never be aloud to kick a ball for us again. Kaboul is finished and I have serious doubts about Lamelas ability to adapt.
See ya.
 

DaSpurs

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Jan 20, 2013
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I hope we stick with the 4-2-3-1 as it's worked with Poch in the past, and I still believe he can make it work at Spurs. The formation isn't the problem, it's some of the players we have running it.
 
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