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The question is: do you want us to sign Adama Traore? As many as are of that opinion say


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TheTanguy

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Yet still can't/won't be able to stop him.
That's not gonna change, an extremely pacey player can beat most players on pace. Players will learn much more useful stuff in training sessions against clever footballers. I'm very sceptical about the idea that our defenders will really benefit in matches by training against Adama Traore.
 

daveduvet

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Probably been posted already, but Japhet had grealish & Sterling pretty much in his pocket; however, Traore had him beat last weekend… always wanted Traore. Not currently concerned about his ‘end product’. A very fine winger of spurs, a certain Tony Galvin, who used to excite the spectators and create havoc for the opposition managed just 20 goals in 200 appearances… I don’t seem to recall folk battering him cos of his ‘end product’
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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don't understand coveting a playing who'e never played in EPL but rubbishing one who has absolutely terrorised every PL team he's played against, bar none. At this rate we may as well want every player NOT proven in the EPL! Of course, I've no doubt if Damsgard fails, then we will say he made it in a foreign league that's no good. I'd be having Adama 10/10 over Damsgaard (even as a 1 trick pony!)


Such an important point to make, not just in the case of Traore, but pretty much any player we're linked but has played for either another PL club, or even in The Championship/D1 (Dele being the obvious example).

Obviously there can never be any guarantees with any transfer (our most expensive acquisitions are living proof ?) but if Mr Simple here sees us linked to a couple of players, and one of them is from the far reaches of Outer Mongolia, while the other is from Wolves (for example) & has had experience of the much laughed at Wet, Windy night in Stoke. I know which one I'd personally covet.
 

TheWook

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Such an important point to make, not just in the case of Traore, but pretty much any player we're linked but has played for either another PL club, or even in The Championship/D1 (Dele being the obvious example).

Obviously there can never be any guarantees with any transfer (our most expensive acquisitions are living proof ?) but if Mr Simple here sees us linked to a couple of players, and one of them is from the far reaches of Outer Mongolia, while the other is from Wolves (for example) & has had experience of the much laughed at Wet, Windy night in Stoke. I know which one I'd personally covet.
Get the outer monglolian lad in? ?
 

spids

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Traore’s all round game has massively improved over the last 5 years. When at Boro he was totally a ‘head down, blind alley’ player. Now he often gets his head up and spreads the play. He’s not Eriksen or Coutinho but he can pass. He also works incredibly hard for his team and is a real physical presence. And his crossing has definitely improved. Given that Wolves lost Jota and Jimenez last season for different reasons explains his poor assists compared to the previous year. I hope we get him.
 

ardiles&villa

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The more I think about it, the more I’m coming round to the idea of him coming. He offers things we are missing currently.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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That's not gonna change, an extremely pacey player can beat most players on pace. Players will learn much more useful stuff in training sessions against clever footballers. I'm very sceptical about the idea that our defenders will really benefit in matches by training against Adama Traore.


Only one way we're gonna find out bud.

Personally speaking, I hope we do.
 

SA_Spurs

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Such an important point to make, not just in the case of Traore, but pretty much any player we're linked but has played for either another PL club, or even in The Championship/D1 (Dele being the obvious example).

Obviously there can never be any guarantees with any transfer (our most expensive acquisitions are living proof ?) but if Mr Simple here sees us linked to a couple of players, and one of them is from the far reaches of Outer Mongolia, while the other is from Wolves (for example) & has had experience of the much laughed at Wet, Windy night in Stoke. I know which one I'd personally covet.
Outer Mongolian players are hot shit man ....they score free kicks in Euro's and then, you know the rest! Seriously though, there has t be something about players who are in the EPL. I believe Traore will be better with better players around him (Kane, Son, etc.). All this talk of a one trick pony is hilarious as despite this, no defence has definitively shut him down. His final product will improve when the environment around him improves - I'm really hoping we sign this guy
 

ProfCalculus

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don't understand coveting a playing who'e never played in EPL but rubbishing one who has absolutely terrorised every PL team he's played against, bar none. At this rate we may as well want every player NOT proven in the EPL! Of course, I've no doubt if Damsgard fails, then we will say he made it in a foreign league that's no good. I'd be having Adama 10/10 over Damsgaard (even as a 1 trick pony!)

The bold bit doesn’t make sense though (not being argumentative, just pointing out :) ). I’m not saying I want Damsgaard because he doesnt play in the premier league. You are saying however that you like Traore better because he does. So we may as well never bring in players from outside the league. The smaller your pool of selection the lower your quality.

I also think that if we’re talking about proven in the epl, you have to include all facets of that. Traore then is proven to terrify defenders but also proven to be almost non existent as a goal threat, and to have no intelligence or passing game. And whenever people talk about how he causes chaos and destroys defences… it’s true but the part that’s omitted is where he gets to the byline and blindly smashes it into the box thinking his job’s done. Or gets into a one on one and misses. it doesn’t matter how many times you beat players if it ends up with nkthing.

I’m not saying he’s crap. Or that he hasn’t improved in those areas. Maybe he has the potential to improve further but i don’t think that’s why we’re interested. I’m not even saying I don’t want him at all. If it was a swap for Bergwijn, fine. What bothers me is chucking a big enough fee to prevent us moving for players with a lot more to their game, and also, it seemingly coming at the expense of another striker.

I would rather Damsgaard because his skill set is leagues above Traore imo especially in terms of how broad it is and in addition to that he can play anywhere across attack of midfield. As a lwf he scored and almost assisted what Traore does every season in 4 games I think. Damsgaard is creative, has tons of vision, a brilliant dribbler with outstanding technique, great pace, and fantastic passing ability. He works really hard And is just emerging as a player. Traore is extremely fast and and strong and has quick feet. That’s my basis for comparison. I don’t understand ignoring a player’s qualities just because they play in a different league.

The EPL experience thing is a very selective way of assessing players though and ignores everything that matters IMO. Martinez and Vlahovic have never played in the premier league.

this all sounds really negative. If he comes I’ll try to be optimistic. Who knows he could explode. Hopefully from the left. i do wonder if Lucas would be a star at wolves with better numbers.
 

GetSpurredOn

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He’s clearly not a one trick pony, as he has the tenacity and workrate to go with the pace and fast feet aspect of his game.
I’m still unconvinced he’s the absolute forwars answer we’re looking for, as if we buy Traore only, we’re still missing that focal striker to make the back stick and play from if Kane is out, but I do think Traore could add another dimension to our attack, and for that, I’m in.
 

Albertbarich

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I understand the doubts but the space he would create for son, kane and even gil if Thursday is anything to go by makes him a really fun signing.
 
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Guntz

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Wolves are close to signing a winger/forward - If they then sign Guedes it could be looking good for our Traore pursuit.

 

SA_Spurs

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The bold bit doesn’t make sense though (not being argumentative, just pointing out :) ). I’m not saying I want Damsgaard because he doesnt play in the premier league. You are saying however that you like Traore better because he does. So we may as well never bring in players from outside the league. The smaller your pool of selection the lower your quality.

I also think that if we’re talking about proven in the epl, you have to include all facets of that. Traore then is proven to terrify defenders but also proven to be almost non existent as a goal threat, and to have no intelligence or passing game. And whenever people talk about how he causes chaos and destroys defences… it’s true but the part that’s omitted is where he gets to the byline and blindly smashes it into the box thinking his job’s done. Or gets into a one on one and misses. it doesn’t matter how many times you beat players if it ends up with nkthing.

I’m not saying he’s crap. Or that he hasn’t improved in those areas. Maybe he has the potential to improve further but i don’t think that’s why we’re interested. I’m not even saying I don’t want him at all. If it was a swap for Bergwijn, fine. What bothers me is chucking a big enough fee to prevent us moving for players with a lot more to their game, and also, it seemingly coming at the expense of another striker.

I would rather Damsgaard because his skill set is leagues above Traore imo especially in terms of how broad it is and in addition to that he can play anywhere across attack of midfield. As a lwf he scored and almost assisted what Traore does every season in 4 games I think. Damsgaard is creative, has tons of vision, a brilliant dribbler with outstanding technique, great pace, and fantastic passing ability. He works really hard And is just emerging as a player. Traore is extremely fast and and strong and has quick feet. That’s my basis for comparison. I don’t understand ignoring a player’s qualities just because they play in a different league.

The EPL experience thing is a very selective way of assessing players though and ignores everything that matters IMO. Martinez and Vlahovic have never played in the premier league.

this all sounds really negative. If he comes I’ll try to be optimistic. Who knows he could explode. i do wonder if Lucas would be a star at wolves with better numbers.

Don't need to remind you but Ndombele's skillset is leagues above everyone - even outside of the EPL and we all see that this league is too physical for him (over & above his mental attitude). I'm not choosing Traore because he plays in the EPL. I believe he is physically better suited to this league, he has experience against the best defenders in this league and he knows what to expect. There's a lot of European players who look fantastic in other leagues but fail to cut it here. To me, we cannot compare these 2 players as they bring different things to a team. I think Damsgard is pretty good (technically) but personally believe he will be a tad light weight for this league and will be bullied regularly by lesser players (subjective for sure - its only my opinion!). I feel Traore's stats are misrepresented as he creates opportunities by distracting teams - in the same way Damsgard's could be inflated because of the quality of the league he plays in. All subjective of course but its why I would trust the judgement of Nuno & Paratici on whoever they opt to bring in!
 

ProfCalculus

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Don't need to remind you but Ndombele's skillset is leagues above everyone - even outside of the EPL and we all see that this league is too physical for him (over & above his mental attitude). I'm not choosing Traore because he plays in the EPL. I believe he is physically better suited to this league, he has experience against the best defenders in this league and he knows what to expect. There's a lot of European players who look fantastic in other leagues but fail to cut it here. To me, we cannot compare these 2 players as they bring different things to a team. I think Damsgard is pretty good (technically) but personally believe he will be a tad light weight for this league and will be bullied regularly by lesser players (subjective for sure - its only my opinion!). I feel Traore's stats are misrepresented as he creates opportunities by distracting teams - in the same way Damsgard's could be inflated because of the quality of the league he plays in. All subjective of course but its why I would trust the judgement of Nuno & Paratici on whoever they opt to bring in!

That’s fair. I don’t agree but opinions. Damsgaard is renowned though for being hard working and fit on top of his talent so the Ndombele comparison doesn’t hold.

I don’t like the nuno led nature of it personally. I’ve been impressed by Paratici’s choices.
 

SA_Spurs

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That’s fair. I don’t agree but opinions. Damsgaard is renowned though for being hard working and fit on top of his talent so the Ndombele comparison doesn’t hold.

I don’t like the nuno led nature of it personally. I’ve been impressed by Paratici’s choices.
fair enough - I doubt much can be compared to Ndom - he's so talented yet infuriating at the same time! If only he would apply himself eh? I do like that both Damsgard and Traore are hungry players - they crave the ball and try to do something with it! It's a huge upgrade on some of our players
 

mil1lion

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I understand the doubts but the space he would create for son, lane and even gil if Thursday is anything to go by makes him a really fun signing.
Not to mention Alli and Lo Celso from midfield and possibly Ilaix. They will all chip in.
 

Aleks

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He would be like adding nitrous oxide to a car. When needed he can come in and add that thrust and unpredictability that is so rare to find
 
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