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McFlash

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I too had/still have(?) high hopes for the lad but I'm not sure his head's straight.
Wasn't he being referred to as "the white Cafu" before he came to us?
Hmmmmm....
 

WhiteStripe

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Aug 23, 2006
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In all honesty, Hutton in the Brum game and Utd game has not completed his minimum requirements as a defender. Two goals are partly down to his lack of decisiveness, and inability to clear his lines.

That said, he has had less match time than pretty much the entire squad over the last year, and therefore is not likely to be in best shape for premiership football.

I for one rate Corluka as our best right back, and think naughton is a hot prospect, so sadly don't really see a long term future for Hutton. But, although he should have done way better in the last two games, we must remember how little oppertunity he has had to play in that back four at that level.
 

Krafty

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Corluka looked like he was treading water a little in the second half, might have had a knock which led to the substitution.

However, I thought Hutton was poor both on and off the ball. Getting turned so easily for that third goal is criminal and someone with his ability and experience should be a hell of a lot better. What was also immensely disappointting, with Utd down to ten and only one forward, was the lack of overlapping. He should ahve been bombing down that line, getting crosses in. Instead he either hung back too much, got closed out or played a backwards ball.

A lack of game time certainly doesnt help, and I had high hopes for him, but I just think his heart has gone. He knows he isnt first choice and looks like he doesnt really care if he does well anymore. I hope I'm wrong, but he is not performing to anywhere near his best
 

Bobishism

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He switches off constantly,

As does Corluka.

releases the ball poorly

Rubbish.

However, I also had the pleasure of watching him all of last season, something that it appears you did not have,

Based on what?

He did so occasionally last season. Watch our 5-3 defeat to UTD. He was dire.

never letting his lack of pace cause him problems,

This simply isn't true.

The people who call him lazy are probably the same people who called Berabtov lazy (i'm assuming you fall in this bracket, apologies in advance if I am wrong).

wrong.

In fact, I dare say that in your writing off of Corluka because of his poor start, you are the one who resemble the Ekotto doubters of the past.

I may resemble them, but I was one of his earliest defenders.

Hutton has a bit of pace, that's it. He is pushed around by players half his height

A lot of players are bullied by Rooney.

he is never in the right position,

Again, you need to watch Corluka a lot more closely.

He is a bad player and should not even be allowed to watch our games from the crown, never mind play in our team.

wrong.
 

Wsussexspur

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Hutton hasn't had the best of times recently. Which is a shame as I highly rated him when we signed him. He was extremely poor on Saturday without doubt his worst performance for us.

However I do feel people might be being slightly harsh on him. Lets not forget he hasn't played regularly now for over a season due to injuries. So therefore hasn't been given a chance to build up his form and confidence. This season he has mainly been coming of the bench and I think the only game he did start for us he played out of position. Last season part from a small run of games in October when the whole team was playing poorly he didn't get a proper go in the first team. I believe if we give him a consitant run in the team and a chance to find his form we will see a much improved and better player.
 

double0

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We should sell Hutton at the next available point. He is a defensive liability IMO much worse than Mr Chimbonda... every time I see him play for both club and country his name is associated with poor position leading up to a goal.

If you look at Hutton's lame attempt in stopping the machine Rooney score the crucial 3rd goal says it all for me ,9M:roll:
 

SpursMadJames

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Apr 19, 2005
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what so its huttons fault for coming on when were chasing a goal?
he's not a striker so how can he impact the game aswell as a Pav would of done if he had come on...its harry's fault not huttons
 

Bus-Conductor

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Some of you lot never cease to fucking amaze me.

When we signed him he played all the way from Jan to the end of the season and was a massive improvement on Chimbonda and very consistant. Tenacious in the tackle, good in the air liked to get forward and took defending far more seriously than Chimbonda.

He then suffered a serious injury which relapsed I think and missed more than a whole season. He has come back to find his place taken by another very good player who is slightly different atributes. More technical and intelligen but for me no better at defending and a little slower.

He has come in as sub in two games when we were playing poorly and under varying degrees of pressure. He was partially culpable for the goal v Bham but it was a clusterfuck which involved poor defending and two ricoshets which made it very understandable.

Personally I think more credit goes to Rooney than debit to Hutton for the goal saturday. I'm not sure but I think when Rooney jinked back inside for the last time the ball went through Huttons legs ??? Regardless, Rooney's movement was clever.
And hard to react to and I doubt if Corlua would have done any better as he's not the sharpest and quickest reacting player is he.

Either way some of you lot are not weighing up the circumstances and applying logic and balance. He has proven that when fit, match sharp he is a good competant, competitive RB of a standard no worse than Corluka in nterms of his overall contribution to the team, or certainly only minutely less on a ho hum day.

He will almost certainly be sold soon as we have Corluka and Walker and he won't want to be bench warming but he has not become a terrible player all of a sudden.
 

jrio

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Hutton's offski fairly soonski. That writing's been on the wall for a few months.
 

Bus-Conductor

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I agree and was editing my post as you posted, but as aback up RB he's as good as anyone in the EPL's got as back up.
 

jamesc0le

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seems like hutton has had less than 12 months playing time in the premiership.
clearly he can be a solid defensive asset in a settled backline but he is shit offensively so sell him and let's concentrate on corluka and naughton
 

McFlash

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Bus-Conductor - "wow, our back up RB isn't Cafu ?
what a fucker".

Not really sure what you mean by this?
Are you trying to be an aggressive smart-arse or is it some attempt at sarcasm? I can't quite make it out.
"The white Cafu" was a nickname given to Hutton before he came to us - I'm not saying anyone was expecting a Cafu, just that was what he was labelled as.
And I'm pretty sure that we didn't spend somewhere in the region of £8m on a back-up player. I reckon we may have wanted him as first choice originally.

As far as I'm concerned, the verdict's still out on him.

If I'm reading you comment wrong and you're not trying to be a cock, please accept my apologies! If not, please think about what's been written before spouting off about it - a little thought may help you to understand what was actually being said in the first place.
 

Pallyali

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I was very disappointed in his performance when he came on for Charlie yesterday, surely Harry brought him on to 1. Try to contain Rooney better and 2. Support Lennon and get down the wing to attack United

He did none of those things and not only that defended poorly and looked pretty uninterested in the whole situation

Yes I know he's been injured but I've hardly seen a glimpse of this great player he is supposed to be.

Is he not the most over-rated player we've bought for the money we paid?

I was hearing from all the hype that we were buying this fantastic player that would be of the quality of Stephen Carr at his best but the more I see of him the more I think he's more like Jimmy Carr

I agree. I don't think he offers us much at all, going forward or defensively. I hope Kyle Naughton moves in front of him.

Any how I love Corluka, he's number one for me at RB.
 

Damian99

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what so its huttons fault for coming on when were chasing a goal?
he's not a striker so how can he impact the game aswell as a Pav would of done if he had come on...its harry's fault not huttons

Harry would deffo have made a better job of defending for the third goal anyhow
 

Damian99

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Personally I think more credit goes to Rooney than debit to Hutton for the goal saturday. I'm not sure but I think when Rooney jinked back inside for the last time the ball went through Huttons legs ??? Regardless, Rooney's movement was clever.
And hard to react to and I doubt if Corlua would have done any better as he's not the sharpest and quickest reacting player is he.

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Rooney didnt have to do anything special to beat Hutton, he made it very easy for Rooney. All Hutton had to do was get across to Rooney cover a direct shot on goal and get his body in a position to stop Rooney cutting back across him(something which Rooney actually did ALL to easily) He got himself in a fucking mess its that simple, but i do agree BAE didnt really offer much in terms of help.
 

WexfordTownSpur

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Rooney didnt have to do anything special to beat Hutton, he made it very easy for Rooney. All Hutton had to do was get across to Rooney cover a direct shot on goal and get his body in a position to stop Rooney cutting back across him(something which Rooney actually did ALL to easily) He got himself in a fucking mess its that simple, but i do agree BAE didnt really offer much in terms of help.
Look I think Hutton is not a great defender, but I have to say, the move started on the left of our goal and ended up in the middle - Hutton is a RB, surly our two CB's and LB need to take some blame here - but Hutton's defending when put into the position, was schoolboy, really:hump:
 
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