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Berbatonghen

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I admire your patience and will to trust Poch...but I can also understand why people are pessimistic...we've been making a right pig's ear of transfer windows for years now. It's hard to have faith being a Spurs fan.

100% I agree with you mate.

And tbh I don't blame some of our fans for losing a little bit of faith/hope regarding us in transfer windows.

But Ive always been a fan that looks on the bright side and see that we are a club that has so much to offer and hopefully Pochettino has that determination in him to make things happen.

He knows what needs to be done to improve the squad and has mentioned it a few times now. So I'm still in the "have faith" camp lol
 

rocklink

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I can see why Ayew would be seen as an alternative to Ings. Both left footers, both with a bit of pace, both tenacious workers, both chip in with some goals/assists but neither are prolific or super creative. Neither are going to advance our wit quota much. Neither are nailed on starters.

I quite like Ayew, he works for the team, and I understand why some like Ings, but these are the type of signings that in the past have invariably just ended up sitting in a holding pattern, clogging up the progress of the development lads and at the moment we some excellent ones that I don't want blocking.


ings left footed ?
 

Sweech

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Ayew = LWF
Ings = CF
Prtichard = ACM


Ayew would be competition for Chadli.
Ings and Pritchard are somewhat flexible in where they can be played at least, but you're right those are probably their best positions.
 

cliff jones

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I can see why Ayew would be seen as an alternative to Ings. Both left footers, both with a bit of pace, both tenacious workers, both chip in with some goals/assists but neither are prolific or super creative. Neither are going to advance our wit quota much. Neither are nailed on starters.

I quite like Ayew, he works for the team, and I understand why some like Ings, but these are the type of signings that in the past have invariably just ended up sitting in a holding pattern, clogging up the progress of the development lads and at the moment we some excellent ones that I don't want blocking.

ings is right footed. plus we have no striker coming thru who looks anywhere near ready. so no clogging up issue there.

wide men i agree, but whilst chadli has the physical attributes he doesnt put himself about much. eriksen and lamela lack power. pritchard plays a similar game. we need a physical option in the three to mix things up, sissokho or bolasie for me...
 

fecka

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Ings and Pritchard are somewhat flexible in where they can be played at least, but you're right those are probably their best positions.
Ayew has played quite a lot at CM as well with decent results. He would never be first choice for us there but in a pinch he is able to do a job as a b2b.
 

Sweech

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Ayew has played quite a lot at CM as well with decent results. He would never be first choice for us there but in a pinch he is able to do a job as a b2b.
Hasn't he played up top for Ghana as well? Either that or he was always in the box when I watched them play. Good header of the ball too, even if he's not tall.
 

SHaRD

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Hasn't he played up top for Ghana as well? Either that or he was always in the box when I watched them play. Good header of the ball too, even if he's not tall.

Yeah, he can do a job at CF, but is much more effective at LWF. The player he reminds me quite a bit of is actually Jay Rodriguez (I think he's better than JR too).
 

talkshowhost86

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Pritchard is very good in the ALM position, and if he plays central then Eriksen moves over there. We've also got to start giving some time to Onomah - he could play there, but if he plays ACM then Pritchard or Eriksen move over etc.

Of the two I'd prefer Ayew because he can play more positions than Ings and does get up and down really well.

There's presumably six positions available for the role behind the striker, with Lamela, Eriksen, Pritchard and Chadli presumably the ones who are certain to be in the first team squad. For me that leaves two places available and I think it would be good to have at least one of those being a slightly more direct player like Ayew.

I haven't seen enough of Onomah to know whether he can play in a wider position but whenever I have seen him it's been in a more central role, and I don't think there's anyone else in the yoofs who is ready to step up yet.

So for me Ayew would be a great signing, particularly with no transfer fee involved.
 

millsey

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By all means call it blind trust. I call it having faith in our manager who throughout the season has mentioned about improving the quality of the squad.

Also bringing in Paul Mitchell has made me think we really are going to make improvements that will benefit the squad. I guess we just got to wait and see. But Ive got a feeling this summer we won't be making the same mistakes every window.

A question for you seeing that you might have trust issues with MP.

Why do you not trust the manager and his judgment on the players we will sign?
I don't trust him because he has yet to sign player that have performed. He hasn't signed players he even trusts himself. Fazio,davies,Stambouli ect. Surely you can only go on a managers track record and history. If he buys some fantastic players this summer and it works then brilliant. Right
Now we Have no idea how it's going to go
 
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Dharmabum

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There's presumably six positions available for the role behind the striker, with Lamela, Eriksen, Pritchard and Chadli presumably the ones who are certain to be in the first team squad. For me that leaves two places available and I think it would be good to have at least one of those being a slightly more direct player like Ayew.

I haven't seen enough of Onomah to know whether he can play in a wider position but whenever I have seen him it's been in a more central role, and I don't think there's anyone else in the yoofs who is ready to step up yet.

So for me Ayew would be a great signing, particularly with no transfer fee involved.

Again to all you guys who still believe that an free agent involves no transfer fee. Well, it's true that there is no transfer fee involved but all "quality" free agents demand hefty signing-on fees (often "disuguised" as slary).! Which is why the want to become free agents in the first place. So instead of competing with other clubs regarding transfrer fees the deal now is which club and offer the best signing-on deal (well, wages are of course a major factor too).
And, to many's annoyance I have to inform that since Ayew is a left-footer he's also played a few games as inverted RWF :cool:
 

talkshowhost86

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Again to all you guys who still believe that an free agent involves no transfer fee. Well, it's true that there is no transfer fee involved but all "quality" free agents demand hefty signing-on fees (often "disuguised" as slary).! Which is why the want to become free agents in the first place. So instead of competing with other clubs regarding transfrer fees the deal now is which club and offer the best signing-on deal (well, wages are of course a major factor too).
And, to many's annoyance I have to inform that since Ayew is a left-footer he's also played a few games as inverted RWF :cool:

You have to pay a signing on fee to most players. Ayew's may be higher as there's no transfer fee, but it will still be a significantly lower amount in total than you would normally pay for a player of his quality.
 

mill

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Again to all you guys who still believe that an free agent involves no transfer fee. Well, it's true that there is no transfer fee involved but all "quality" free agents demand hefty signing-on fees (often "disuguised" as slary).! Which is why the want to become free agents in the first place. So instead of competing with other clubs regarding transfrer fees the deal now is which club and offer the best signing-on deal (well, wages are of course a major factor too).
And, to many's annoyance I have to inform that since Ayew is a left-footer he's also played a few games as inverted RWF :cool:

Do we really have to go through this every time someone mentions free transfer ffs, I think we all get the picture.


But but but but but but but there's wages and a signing on fee, is fucking nauseating
 

Dharmabum

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Do we really have to go through this every time someone mentions free transfer ffs, I think we all get the picture.


But but but but but but but there's wages and a signing on fee, is fucking nauseating

Thanks. Continue having a nice day and hope there are no one around you to "catch" your grumpy mode :cool:
 

mill

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Thanks. Continue having a nice day and hope there are no one around you to "catch" your grumpy mode :cool:

Sorry wasn't directly solely at you but everyone

It's getting to the point on here where a 3 word post needs about 10 caveats to it, it's bollox and ruining the site
 

rawhide

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Sorry wasn't directly solely at you but everyone

It's getting to the point on here where a 3 word post needs about 10 caveats to it, it's bollox and ruining the site
But then so is the "why don't we just sign him!" cries (whatever the player).

When we know the answer is:
A) We don't want him.
B) He doesn't want to join.
C) We don't want to pay what it'll cost to sign him (For a number of reasons).

A or B is a lost cause (but we will never know that.)
C is a sit and wait to see if the cost reduces or our willingness to pay increases (based on sales, purchases or time moving on).

Similarly, not directed at you personally.
 

millsey

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Again to all you guys who still believe that an free agent involves no transfer fee. Well, it's true that there is no transfer fee involved but all "quality" free agents demand hefty signing-on fees (often "disuguised" as slary).! Which is why the want to become free agents in the first place. So instead of competing with other clubs regarding transfrer fees the deal now is which club and offer the best signing-on deal (well, wages are of course a major factor too).
And, to many's annoyance I have to inform that since Ayew is a left-footer he's also played a few games as inverted RWF :cool:
yawn
 
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