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Anyone else think Sandro is better than Parker?

DiamondLites

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Sandro's timing in the tackle is excellent, Parker gives away too many free kicks in very dangerous areas with wreckless tackles
 

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Sandro's timing in the tackle is excellent, Parker gives away too many free kicks in very dangerous areas with wreckless tackles

Sandro is a player who impresses me, but he has given awaay a fair number of free-kicks, himself.
Parker's taclking has been astounding this season, something we have lacked since whenever...to play at that intensity, for prolonged periods,I think we can accept the odd mistimed tackle - hell, even the Modric-Pony mistimed a tackle on Sunday and gave a free-kick away.
 

DiamondLites

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Yes, but I feel Sandro is more measured in the tackle where as Parker is blood and thunder. With games under his belt Sandro's timing will improve which is scary for any opposing CMs
 

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Yes, but I feel Sandro is more measured in the tackle where as Parker is blood and thunder. With games under his belt Sandro's timing will improve which is scary for any opposing CMs

Which is fine, and I would probably agree with you - but Sandoro was, and probably is, a little bit raw.
 

kungfugrip

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Sandro has the potential to be, and probably will be better than Parker. But if we had to win one game and you had to put your mortage on it.........Parker would be on my teamsheet ahead of Sandro at the moment.

Great to have them both though and hopefully next season will see Sandro realise his potential and get far more games. He is a beast.
 

Maske2g

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Except we haven't. A couple of our best performances have been when Parker and Sandro have played together. Like Norwich away, Wigan away, Chelsea away, Swansea home.

In all of those games Modric was given more freedom and got forward more, and while he may not be a clinical finisher - he isn't - having someone with a brain in and around the opposition box has paid off in games where he is.


There is some wonderfully cherry picked examples.... Well here are six examples where by and large, we were gash, and we picked up 2 pts, in 6 games.

QPR away
Sunderland away
Everton away for firs t half
Arsenal away second half
Swansea away
Chelsea home

It just doesn't come naturally to Modric in the box at all, and it's not just his weak shot. He gets the the byline and rarely produces, he rarely pulls off a killer pass around the box, although that's probably as much to do with the completely lacklusture movement up top. His best games have all been with him running the show from the middle of the park. Getting on it, keeping it in tight situations, nicking it with intercaeptions,, and then finding others in space to do the damage.
 

theShiznit

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There is some wonderfully cherry picked examples.... Well here are six examples where by and large, we were gash, and we picked up 2 pts, in 6 games.

QPR away
Sunderland away
Everton away for firs t half
Arsenal away second half
Swansea away
Chelsea home

It just doesn't come naturally to Modric in the box at all, and it's not just his weak shot. He gets the the byline and rarely produces, he rarely pulls off a killer pass around the box, although that's probably as much to do with the completely lacklusture movement up top. His best games have all been with him running the show from the middle of the park. Getting on it, keeping it in tight situations, nicking it with intercaeptions,, and then finding others in space to do the damage.

TBF in the games BC mentioned we played with three cm's on paper and in practice. In at least a few of those above (if memory serves me) we played with three cm's yes, but Sandro was deployed in a more RM/RW role which was obviously so VDV didn't have to do much donkey work but did not work at all.
 

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There is some wonderfully cherry picked examples.... Well here are six examples where by and large, we were gash, and we picked up 2 pts, in 6 games.

QPR away
Sunderland away
Everton away for firs t half
Arsenal away second half
Swansea away
Chelsea home

It just doesn't come naturally to Modric in the box at all, and it's not just his weak shot. He gets the the byline and rarely produces, he rarely pulls off a killer pass around the box, although that's probably as much to do with the completely lacklusture movement up top. His best games have all been with him running the show from the middle of the park. Getting on it, keeping it in tight situations, nicking it with intercaeptions,, and then finding others in space to do the damage.


QPR and Sunderland we dominated the ball, you said we don't if Modric isn't in the cm. Everton away we played 442, up against a 5 man midfield. Arsenal was just a disaster, and I included that in my example as well. Swansea away we were winning until Redknapp changed to 442. In the first half we had 49% of the ball, second half (half of which was spent with 442) we had 39%. I would venture that 49% is as good as any team have at Swansea ? And Chelsea home was the same story, at 433 we had 59.6% of the ball. Second half 442 we have 48%.

I accept that regardless of the formation, we will not do well if we don't do basic things right like work and press. And Arsenal was a case in point, they were just much better than us regardless of what we did.

But I fundamentally disagree about the efficacy of Modric when he has the freedom to get forward and play in the opposition's 3rd instead of spending all his time fetching and carrying in ours, where defensively he can be a liability. You think of the chance he created in the opening minute against Blackburn (it was the best chance anyone created all game) , or the chances he created at Chelsea (VDV's from inside the box, and Adebayor's through ball) as examples of what he can craft out when he gets into the box or plays further forward.
 

faze_coys

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Always though sandro is the better foil for us.

He does his own job and doesnt try and do everyone elses like parker.

parker occupy modrics space too much, he holds on to the ball too much, he doesnt want to let modric dictate play (which i believe is one of the main reasons for modrics loss of form)

:whistle:
 

ItsBoris

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I've said all season Sandro is better. So, so, so much better. In every way.

Parker is very good at what he does but that is too one-dimensional to dominate the midfield. Sandro = dominant force.
 

bigpalacios

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When he has a run the team he is top, top class. The way he makes up the ground and closes space so quickly is very rare.
 

DanNolan

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For me its sandro all day, parker is immense and maybe more reliable to give his all in tough games but sandro all round is immense. He has the talent to be an amazing box to box player
 

cabinfever

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I thought Sandro was superb tonight (saw most, but not all of the game). He won so many headers at the edge of and in our box, the usual undoing of Spurs at Bolton.
 

DanNolan

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There was a spell of 3 corners for bolton whereas they were all great crosses on davies head, Sandro managed to get to ever header ahead of Davies what a difference he makes.LOVE HIM
 

dcarney75

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Love Parker but got to be Sandro for me. Energy, commitment and skill. We have to be resolute in the summer I think - wouldn't be surprised if there's a few clubs sniffing around.
 

sparx100

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I think Harry will have a tough decision when Parker is available. I think Sandro has so much potential and deserves to keep his place for his last 2 performances. In fact Harry should keep the team as it has been for the last 2 games......
 

YidGraham

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Now he's getting some matches under his belt he's no longer getting booked in the first quarter of a match with mistimed tackles. This let's him impose himself and boss the other team all through the match without having to worry about another yellow.

His tackling in the last couple of games have been superb (I think he wont 9 out of 10 against Blackburn) so it looks like match fitness makes a massive difference to his game.

I loved that he picked up Davies on corners and did a fantastic job defending them, especially when they had three in a row. Shows he's really up for a battle. His height and strength is a huge bonus against physical teams over Parker.
 
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