Appalling that Lloris was allowed to stay on

[LSUY]

The simple fact is, EVEN if AVB wanted to replace him, he couldn't have. Lloris was NOT coming off.

We still had one substitution left so AVB could have replaced Lloris if he wanted to. If the player's number goes up on the board then he comes off regardless what he thinks. The manager trumps the player when it comes to substitutions.

 

[SpursManChris]

If the player's number goes up on the board then he comes off regardless what he thinks.

I wonder if this scenario ever happened before. A player refusing to come off for a sub. I no, then Lloris would have been the first, because I seriously think he wouldn't have moved. However, AVB should maybe have at least attempted it by putting the number on the board.

 

[spurs-r-us]

With Hugo left out, surely the debate is solved. Hopefully he's back soon, and we can move on.

 

[punky]

With Hugo left out, surely the debate is solved. Hopefully he's back soon, and we can move on.

I think it will drag on even longer now... If he was apparently fit last week and not today, people will keep questioning why.

 

[theShiznit]

I think it will drag on even longer now... If he was apparently fit last week and not today, people will keep questioning why.

It does make a mockery of us saying we were right to let him continue.

 

[IGSpur]

Like I said you can't take every single person off for any head injury. Don't have a problem with him staying on neither did medical staff. Scans show no concussion. But as per the recommended rule and the recent news they are erring on the side of caution as some suggested and not playing him. Although Im gutted Lloris isnt playing, the this doesn't prove that decision they took during the match was wrong.

 

[markieboy]

The manager made a total cock up that day and with the criticism he got,he is now shit scared to let him play now.

 

[Markovan13]

If he is not able to play today we could have a massive problem. Hope he was insured

 

[SandroClegane]

Like I said you can't take every single person off for any head injury. Don't have a problem with him staying on neither did medical staff. Scans show no concussion. But as per the recommended rule and the recent news they are erring on the side of caution as some suggested and not playing him. Although Im gutted Lloris isnt playing, the this doesn't prove that decision they took during the match was wrong.

yes it does. why would he not be playing if he didn't have a concussion?

 

[ethanedwards]

If he is not able to play today we could have a massive problem. Hope he was insured

We may have given them a get out clause

 

[IGSpur]

yes it does. why would he not be playing if he didn't have a concussion?

So the CT scan was wrong. I just think after the whole Graeme Smith thing, who showed no concussion then developed post something concussion a week later the medics felt there was no need to risk him. Difference is Smith actually complained of dizziness a week later, whereas Lloris by all accounts isn't and feels he is ok to play.

The medics are just being cautious based on a recent sports case. Fair.

 

[SandroClegane]

So the CT scan was wrong. I just think after the whole Graeme Smith thing, who showed no concussion then developed post something concussion a week later the medics felt there was no need to risk him. Difference is Smith actually complained of dizziness a week later, whereas Lloris by all accounts isn't and feels he is ok to play.

The medics are just being cautious based on a recent sports case. Fair.

if you develop post concussion syndrome, you had a concussion. When you get knocked out, you have a concussion. Hugo Lloris had a concussion and we are covering it up so we don't look bad.

 

[IGSpur]

Noone is saying he has concussion. I said in light of the fact that Graeme Smith showed post concussion syndrome while appearing not to have concussion they may not have wanted to risk Lloris in case he develops it. When you get knocked out you do not always have concussion as evidence by Lloris and the other hundred examples mentioned in this thread. Nothing suggests Lloris has concussion medics initial assessment and CT scan. Nothing suggests he has developed post concussion syndrome, Lloris is feeling fine by all accounts. It's just they they are giving him a weeks rest and not risking him incase he may develop it. Like Graeme Smith did. They are just being cautious. Nothing is being covered up as far as we know, as he DOES NOT have concussion.

 

[E17yid]

Fucking bullshit. Should have been playing today. If he was, at least we would have got another 0-0

 

[beats1]

AVB looks a total fucking idiot regarding after defending the medical team and etc. THEN saying Lloris will play on sunday, it was slowly swept under the carpet.

But him not making the bench today suggests that we did fuck up and make us look like fools. Then the AVB comments even more so look stupid now.

 

[Dr Know]

You got to love a Spurs fan!!

This actual thread was about how appalling it was to keep Lloris on but in the chat room and the match thread, fans are saying that he should have played today!!

 

[IGSpur]

I await the media and FIFA backlash for leaving Szczesny on the pitch.

 

[jerseyspur]

So the CT scan was wrong. I just think after the whole Graeme Smith thing, who showed no concussion then developed post something concussion a week later the medics felt there was no need to risk him. Difference is Smith actually complained of dizziness a week later, whereas Lloris by all accounts isn't and feels he is ok to play.

The medics are just being cautious based on a recent sports case. Fair.

Again...CT scans do NOT make a diagnosis of a concussion! It is purely a clinical diagnosis based on serial examinations...

The fact he didn't play yesterday, as he failed the impact test suggests that he is in fact suffering from concussion afterall. I think this who saga has been poorly managed in its entirety by the Club, from the initial decision to keep him on the field of play, to the leaking of the CT report to justify their decision to keep him on (the fact he had a CT scan suggests his condition must've worsened after the game & reinforces the fact he should'nt have continued...& again a CT scan does NOT prove/disprove the presence of a concussion!!!!)

However, AVBs comments I feel have been the most damning. In the immediate aftermath stating it was his decision to leave him on, thereby overruling the medical staff...to subsequently using the Muamba incident to defend his medical team (which he overruled) who had been taking a hammering in the media?!? It all just doesn't make sense...

I'll post this again, it's the guidelines the FA & FIFA SHOULD be using for the initial assessment & subsequent management of head injuries in a sporting context! As yesterday & the incident with the Gooners keeper demonstrated, they aren't being very well followed! Watch both incidents again, then look at the second page & the section entitled sideline assessment...

http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/47/5/259.full.pdf

 

[lillywhites61]

Hardly a comment on the utd game where both an arsenal and utd player were left unconscious!

So Lloris probably should have come off but shows how critical the media are if spurs and let others off the hook!

 

[DEFchenkOE]

The simple fact is, EVEN if AVB wanted to replace him, he couldn't have. Lloris was NOT coming off. AVB has not helped his critics by saying "I made the decision to keep him on based on him feeling he was okay." He should have said, "I made the decision not to organise a team of us to physically restrain him and remove him from the pitch." Not that people should need to be told that, it should be obvious that it would not be a good look.

I don't get all the people that are saying this, I thought in football when a players number is held up then they come off. Isn't that how subs usually work??