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SpurSince57

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Just been thinking....Archway has burned down, so are they likely to give a sob story to the judge in January that they want to rebuild their business etc etc and will mean even more delays to us ?

They could try, I suppose, but the judge will ask why they can't rebuild it on the far better site that they've been offered.
 

davidmatzdorf

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Really? You're going to question my experience and first hand knowledge of my own people? I even mentioned I've lived in Alabama for Chrissake, which should imply, if you knew your facts and thus consequently able to stand on a platform and accurately make such an insinuation, being familiar with one of the most gun-toting cross-section demographic of Americans there are.

You and @SpurSince57 aren't listening to each other. You are writing about the percentage of Americans who own guns, which is reported variously between 34% and a recent Gallup poll result of 56% (I just checked a number of obvious sources). The only generally agreed fact is that the percentage has gone down over the past few decades.

But that's not what SS57 wrote. He wrote "a firearm for every person in the country," which is not the same statistic. The most commonly reported figure that I found is 89 guns per 100 Americans. Many gun-owning Americans own multiple guns.

So you're both broadly correct, although you both exaggerated.
 

Kendall

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Just been thinking....Archway has burned down, so are they likely to give a sob story to the judge in January that they want to rebuild their business etc etc and will mean even more delays to us ?

I doubt it. We reportedly had a strong case anyway, without there being ashes where the business used to be.

They would've claimed disruption etc, but they're already being disrupted now, aren't they? If anything, this makes a Spurs ruling more likely.
 

markiespurs

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Jul 9, 2008
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Just been thinking....Archway has burned down, so are they likely to give a sob story to the judge in January that they want to rebuild their business etc etc and will mean even more delays to us ?

From what I've read in the new stadium thread, the appeal can only be made on the grounds that proper procedure was'nt followed, not on the decision itself, so the fire should have very little bearing on the appeal decision.
 

Lilbaz

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Just been thinking....Archway has burned down, so are they likely to give a sob story to the judge in January that they want to rebuild their business etc etc and will mean even more delays to us ?

I'm sure someone will correct me. But the High Court will only decide on the legality of the issuing of a CPO. When it was issued.
How the business is doing will have little to do with it. It will be based on the need of the area and the council to issue the CPO.
 

DaSpurs

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You and @SpurSince57 aren't listening to each other. You are writing about the percentage of Americans who own guns, which is reported variously between 34% and a recent Gallup poll result of 56% (I just checked a number of obvious sources). The only generally agreed fact is that the percentage has gone down over the past few decades.

But that's not what SS57 wrote. He wrote "a firearm for every person in the country," which is not the same statistic. The most commonly reported figure that I found is 89 guns per 100 Americans. Many gun-owning Americans own multiple guns.

So you're both broadly correct, although you both exaggerated.

The only miscommunication here is that you did not read my own response, nor possibly understand it.

It would take a four year old's reasoning capacity to miss that very obvious difference between ownership and total count.
 

tottenmal

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That's what I think people keep forgetting. Archway are not taking THFC to the high court. There sending Haringey Council to court over a government CPO decision. The fire should have little effect on the trial. If anything it'll either make archway fight harder, or give up altogether.
 

Bobbins

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May 5, 2005
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Right, before I drop my 2 cents, I have to ask, am I likely to be banned if I insinuate the fire may have been a inside job if not an angry fan? Because I did that over on COYS and got banned for it, so just checking before I wade in.

That is fucking mental - surely that's the first thing everyone has been suggesting (joking or not)?!

Honestly that place is like RAWK with its bans on negative free speech.
 

worcestersauce

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Jan 23, 2006
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Good point. I just hope they don't try and use this for any extra leverage. Wouldn't put it past them.
Don't think it'd be relevant as their appeal predates this and is purely about the process of the CPO, the appeal court don't care about their premises, business or personal circumjastances.
 

whitesocks

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What if all archway's appeal documentation has gone up in smoke?
Given that their game is to drag this out, I think it is almost certain that they'll ask for a significant postponement.
 

rockyhotspur

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Archways Burning, Archways Burning
Fetch the Engines, Fetch the Engines
Fire Fire, Fire Fire
Now build the Stadium, build the stadium.
 

Lilbaz

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What if all archway's appeal documentation has gone up in smoke?
Given that their game is to drag this out, I think it is almost certain that they'll ask for a significant postponement.

That should be with their lawyers. Both sides will have copies of all the "evidence" so to speak anyway.
 

Mister Jez

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What if all archway's appeal documentation has gone up in smoke?
Given that their game is to drag this out, I think it is almost certain that they'll ask for a significant postponement.
Is this really a serious question...... cannot believe anybody would be that naive, to believe there is one copy of the appeal, and that's kept in the filing cabinet of a sheet metal company. C'mon fella, think about this for just a minute.......
 

Stoof

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Is this really a serious question...... cannot believe anybody would be that naive, to believe there is one copy of the appeal, and that's kept in the filing cabinet of a sheet metal company. C'mon fella, think about this for just a minute.......

Lawyers will have paperwork. And in this day and age I would be very surprised if it wasn't all electronic, or if not, have been scanned on to a document management system.
 
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