attacking centere mid next year

[simyid]

is jenas good enough or should we be going for some other player e.g.

rafael van der vaart - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYujRdlyGJ8&feature=related

matias fernandez - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSLOdda9Qtg

keep jj - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fchNqV8yvlU


arteta - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOxNgi-P67M&feature=related

 

[Dan Ashcroft]

Jenas isn't good enough to be in our starting 11 next season, although he'd still be a useful squad player.

As a replacement I'd like, in order of preference:

Lucho Gonzalez

Matias Fernandez

Dos Santos

Tiago

 

[chileanspursfan]

Matias Fernandez has the talent to become the new Maradona, but still has to mature a bit as a player and could use next season for Villarreal to settle well in Europe. He is by far the most talented of the short listed. But I would rather go for Jorge Valdivia of Palmeiras, almost as talented, but already more influential and a true class winner, he took Palmeiras by himself back to the elite of Brazilian football and has been heralded even by Pele as the best player in Brasil at the moment.

 

[Dan Ashcroft]

There's always a much bigger risk (and potential gain of course) of bringing players straight over from South America though. There's the ownership, work permit and cultural issues. Although it's often great chances missed, almost no English clubs buy straight from South America and would rather let players bed in in Spain or Portugual for a year or two and then cherry pick them, albeit for much more money.

 

[chileanspursfan]

There's always a much bigger risk (and potential gain of course) of bringing players straight over from South America though. There's the ownership, work permit and cultural issues. Although it's often great chances missed, almost no English clubs buy straight from South America and would rather let players bed in in Spain or Portugual for a year or two and then cherry pick them, albeit for much more money.

That's generally true, but not in the case of Valdivia, who should be better compared to a Tevez, who went straight from Corinthians to West Ham. These are world class players, more than tested and capable, both domestic and internationally speaking, and with enough international caps to have no problems whatsoever with the work permit.

Plus, he already played in Europe for Servette in Switzerland, having no adaptation issues whatsoever and where he was considered the most promising player in the league. He was even heralded by Christian Karembeu as the best midfielder in the world for the short coming future.

 

[michaelden]

As a replacement I'd like, in order of preference:

Lucho Gonzalez

Matias Fernandez

Dos Santos

Tiago

The thread is about attacking midfielders. Those 2 are not AMs.

Raf VdV is off to Juve or Inter I think.

I'd like Deco or D'Alessandro as a AM.

 

[fozzi44]

i would sell Jenas big style. Good player - undoubtably so - but dont think he is good enough to improve us. Too inconsistent and goes missing in the big games.

Sell him now, cash in and use the fundage to purchase a better player.

 

[Bill_Oddie]

Surely our attacking midfielders will be the wide(r) players while Ramos is in charge?

As I mentioned in his thread, Arshavin would be lovely. As would Diego Capel. Obviously. If we can't attract this quality of player, I'd rather we stuck with what we have and invest heavily in their development/brought in a more senior couple of midfielders to help them. I really don't want to be doing with players who may or may not make the grade here. Especially when we have the likes of Taarabt and Boateng who look fucking mustard at youth level, but Branston's pickle (or other sub-standard condiment of choice) in the Premier League and need serious help.

 

[llamafarmer]

Matias Fernandez has the talent to become the new Maradona

Until he destroys his knees doing those reverse flick things...

 

[dixiespurs]

Moutinho? Is he Attacking?

 

[van_Pommel]

The thread is about attacking midfielders. Those 2 are not AMs.

Raf VdV is off to Juve or Inter I think.

I'd like Deco or D'Alessandro as a AM.

We're talking about Jenas replacements aren't we? If so, I'm not sure that VDV or Fernandez can play in the centre of a flat 4 midfield. Lucho is definately the man for this job, dont think he'd come though. I haven't seen much of Tiago recently so not sure about that one. I like Mathieu Bodmer from Lyon. Or Marek Sapara - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx8JRzE58Kw

 

[nedley]

Diego ooohhh weeeeyyyy oooohhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[degoose]

as was stated before doesnt really matter as ramos plays with 2 DM or box to box players with the attacking threat being the wingers and strikers. We will probably invest in the winger position this summer and maybe a hard tackling midfielder.

 

[DC_Boy]

JJ is deffo good enough to be in our first XI next year - he is our best mid BTW

 

[tobi]

Diego for AM but Ramos prefers 2 DM's so lets chuck money at Sevilla for Keita's services.

 

[chileanspursfan]

Lucho Gonzalez is a little bit overrated nowadays and specially in this forum. He used to be a good (not a "crack" though) player in Argentina for Huracan and River. He has done OK after that in Porto, but has always failed to establish himself as a class act within the national squad. I don't know, might work because he is better than the current midfielders in the squad, might even become the new Ricky Villa or Ozzie Ardiles; but I reckon he would end up being something like a new Gus Poyet...

It is true that he seems to be one of the most versatile South American options for a 442 formation, but I firmly believe that Juande will change that if he feels that it is what it takes to move the team to a higher stage, by bringing some new players in (who wouldn't fit in a 442 style).

It's the strategy that should be adapted to the personnel, not otherwise. Remember Brazil 1970.

 

[Defsta]

Lucho Gonzales :dance:

 

[yanno]

Of the players mentioned, Lucho & Tiago could play JJ's role, because they can play as a disciplined CM in Ramos' favourite compact 4-4-2 with wingers & attacking FBs.

If we were to sign the likes of Diego, Mati Fernandez or Ronaldinho, then to accomodate them as an ACM, Ramos would probably have to switch formation to a 4-2-3-1 (ie no room for Keano), or a diamond 4-1-2-1-2 (but given Ramos loves wingers, I'd be surprized to see that happening).

 

[DoublePivot]

Surely our attacking midfielders will be the wide(r) players while Ramos is in charge?

Of course it will. But you will never get people to believe you. So the calls for #10's and ACM's will not end until September 1st. :bang:

 

[yanno]

Of course it will. But you will never get people to believe you. So the calls for #10's and ACM's will not end until September 1st. :bang:

DeadwoodDem - you're being a tad optimistic. Unless you mean 1st September 2177.... :wink: