AVB Interview

[Shadydan]

that's your opinion, clubs and players say a lot of things during and post negotiations which are ultimately purely posturing ........ in my opinion both would have been completed if they were done early enough and for the right money and not followed the par for the course Levy approach of delay, low ball, delay again, low ball further, piss off the club and player leading to no deal. An approach which Levy has form for of course.

If you're blaming this one on Levy then you are wide off the mark.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I don't watch the French league. I did read that he has been a flop at Monaco which made me wonder why people are still so upset about it. Bullet dodged, no? So in him and Damiao we have two that went downhill, according to JJ AVB pulled the plug on Oscar and he got Eriksen instead of William, which is an upgrade. Why cry?

Moutinho hasn't flopped at Monaco, he's ben almost ever present, but they have gone through a drastic restructuring due to two things, their owner's 3bn divorce and FFP. Monaco get crowds of about 15 people, and cant strike lucrative bullshit sponsorship deals, so cannot stay within FFP, they had to try and scale down operations and some of the uber names have moved on (Rodriguez, Falcao).

I watched Moutinho play two weeks ago and he had an excellent game. He really was about the closest we could have got to replacing Modric. But that boat has sailed now.

 

[parklane1]

If you're blaming this one on Levy then you are wide off the mark.

There is a lot of that about.

 

[SpurSince57]

that's your opinion, clubs and players say a lot of things during and post negotiations which are ultimately purely posturing ........ in my opinion both would have been completed if they were done early enough and for the right money and not followed the par for the course Levy approach of delay, low ball, delay again, low ball further, piss off the club and player leading to no deal. An approach which Levy has form for of course.

No, it isn't.

“I’m fine here. I never said I wanted to leave and I never forced the situation.
“This is my home. I’ve been here since I was very young, I am comfortable here and for that reason I didn’t feel the need to leave.
“When you get offers they have to be good for the club and for the player. In this case it wasn’t good enough for either, so in the end it didn’t happen and I’m carrying on here.
“My head is here. I was always certain that I would continue to give 100 per cent, like I always have.”

If you choose not to believe that, it's your prerogative.

Like everyone else, you know fuck all about what really happened with Schneiderlin, so stop making shit up.

 

[Francis Gibbs]

No, it isn't.

“I’m fine here. I never said I wanted to leave and I never forced the situation.
“This is my home. I’ve been here since I was very young, I am comfortable here and for that reason I didn’t feel the need to leave.
“When you get offers they have to be good for the club and for the player. In this case it wasn’t good enough for either, so in the end it didn’t happen and I’m carrying on here.
“My head is here. I was always certain that I would continue to give 100 per cent, like I always have.”

If you choose not to believe that, it's your prerogative.

Like everyone else, you know fuck all about what really happened with Schneiderlin, so stop making shit up.

lol take one statement out of a whole chronological timeline relating to a transfer saga and all of a sudden it's a fact which proves what you want to believe .... think maybe it's you who needs a lesson in understanding that you are choosing to believe vrs stating crap as a fact when it clearly is not a fact but a post negotiation posture/position. Naivety doesn't cover it .....
and then just to cap it off you readily admit that no one knows what happened on Schneiderlin but you can state facts ... Priceless

 

[SpurSince57]

lol take one statement out of a whole chronological timeline relating to a transfer saga and all of a sudden it's a fact which proves what you want to believe .... think maybe it's you who needs a lesson in understanding that you are choosing to believe vrs stating crap as a fact when it clearly is not a fact but a post negotiation posture/position. Naivety doesn't cover it .....
and then just to cap it off you readily admit that no one knows what happened on Schneiderlin but you can state facts ... Priceless

You really wouldn't know if someone was up you with an armful of chairs, would you?

 

[Francis Gibbs]

You really wouldn't know if someone was up you with an armful of chairs, would you?

that a fact?

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

I don't remember Levy specifically saying he wasn't for sale after about June. Could be wrong.

Levy, maybe not. McCullen is on tape saying to ITV in August of that year that Bale would stay.

 

[SpurSince57]

that a fact?

Self-evidently.

 

[Francis Gibbs]

Self-evidently.

lol your type of fact, a self evident one

 

[SpurSince57]

Levy, maybe not. McCullen is on tape saying to ITV in August of that year that Bale would stay.

Cullen, you mean.

Perhaps she left out the '… until Real meet our full valuation'.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Levy, maybe not. McCullen is on tape saying to ITV in August of that year that Bale would stay.

Who?

 

[Gbspurs]

Who?

Come on, surely you know Donna McCullen, she is part of the tottingham board with Daniel O'Levy.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Come on, surely you know Donna McCullen, she is part of the tottingham board with Daniel O'Levy.

Cousin of Wee Jock Poo-Pong McPlop, toilet cleaner from Aberdeen?

 

[Bobbins]

What's clear is that Levy and AVB were a match made in hell, and Levy should have realised that before he brought him in.

At last someone's said it.

Levy's a chancer trying to do things on the cheap. He never had any intention of buying Moutinho or Musacchio, and the Willian deal was only taking place because we were flush with cash. The only time he's spent significant money is when we've received more in sales or the January after Harry took over when we were in serious trouble. There's nothing wrong with that, I don't want to hemorragh cash, but he's got a history of promising the earth to players and managers and not delivering.

AVB's a half-decent coach who needs top players and a financially dominant club to be successful, and achieved our record points total based on setting up a team to avoid conceding too many goals and then getting the ball to Bale as often as possible. He can moan all he likes but he's not stupid - he should've been able to see, like any fan could, that financially Spurs would not be in position to buy the sorts of players he wanted. Plus, when he did get a player he asked for - Soldado - he proceeded to play him in a system which is possibly the worst system you could ever use with that kind of striker, and absolutely ruin him.

Neither of them fulfilled their end of the bargain and it should've been obvious to both very early that things were never going to work out once the super-charged injection of class that was Bale was removed.

 

[Bobbins]

The club said "we were reluctant to make a change mid season but felt that the squad deserved a Head Coach that would get the best out of them."

He was barbecued.

"...so we put Tim in charge."

Totally straight faces.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

"...so we put Tim in charge."

Totally straight faces.

Thing is, that is genuinely what they said, which makes it even more funny.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

At last someone's said it.

Levy's a chancer trying to do things on the cheap. He never had any intention of buying Moutinho or Musacchio, and the Willian deal was only taking place because we were flush with cash. The only time he's spent significant money is when we've received more in sales or the January after Harry took over when we were in serious trouble. There's nothing wrong with that, I don't want to hemorragh cash, but he's got a history of promising the earth to players and managers and not delivering.

AVB's a half-decent coach who needs top players and a financially dominant club to be successful, and achieved our record points total based on setting up a team to avoid conceding too many goals and then getting the ball to Bale as often as possible. He can moan all he likes but he's not stupid - he should've been able to see, like any fan could, that financially Spurs would not be in position to buy the sorts of players he wanted. Plus, when he did get a player he asked for - Soldado - he proceeded to play him in a system which is possibly the worst system you could ever use with that kind of striker, and absolutely ruin him.

Neither of them fulfilled their end of the bargain and it should've been obvious to both very early that things were never going to work out once the super-charged injection of class that was Bale was removed.

Could be the truest thing ever said on the matter.

 

[E17yid]

Marcelino now "expects" Musacchio to make the switch to White Hart Lane, despite how difficult he sees the task of finding a replacement.

He told reporters: "It's a situation with three parties: the player, the buyer and the club in the middle and, as I have said many times, if the club sell an important player it's because the right conditions to do so have been met.

"Things will change quite a lot [for this team]. The quality and level of [Musacchio] will make it difficult to find a replacement.

"It's always more complicated to adapt the team to a new defender than to a forward or midfielder [and] it's not easy, at this level, to find a new defender. It won't be easy [to replace him] but the solution, for better or worse, will be found soon."

The coach lamented that, having already wanted to bring in another centre-back this summer, he would now have to find two.

"Mateo is a very important player for Villarreal," he added. "He's an excellent player and will be a difficult loss to cover, especially as he plays in a tough position to reinforce."


This suggests to me that we were actively involved in a negotiation for Mussachio yet we didn';t meet the required price.

I would have thought that the player expressed some kind of interest in joining us at that point otherwise why would the coach come out and say he expects him to leave.

At the end of the day, Mussachio was right, our offer wasn't good enough for the club (or for him) to get the deal done.

I don't see how, from the above quotes from Mussachio, that is him telling us to jog on. Much more likely it was Villa real or 3rd party telling us to jog on as the price was too low. Just as Southampton told us to jog on as we offered £10m and not £25m for MS

 

[Bobbins]

Marcelino now "expects" Musacchio to make the switch to White Hart Lane, despite how difficult he sees the task of finding a replacement.

He told reporters: "It's a situation with three parties: the player, the buyer and the club in the middle and, as I have said many times, if the club sell an important player it's because the right conditions to do so have been met.

"Things will change quite a lot [for this team]. The quality and level of [Musacchio] will make it difficult to find a replacement.

"It's always more complicated to adapt the team to a new defender than to a forward or midfielder [and] it's not easy, at this level, to find a new defender. It won't be easy [to replace him] but the solution, for better or worse, will be found soon."

The coach lamented that, having already wanted to bring in another centre-back this summer, he would now have to find two.

"Mateo is a very important player for Villarreal," he added. "He's an excellent player and will be a difficult loss to cover, especially as he plays in a tough position to reinforce."


This suggests to me that we were actively involved in a negotiation for Mussachio yet we didn';t meet the required price.

I would have thought that the player expressed some kind of interest in joining us at that point otherwise why would the coach come out and say he expects him to leave.

At the end of the day, Mussachio was right, our offer wasn't good enough for the club (or for him) to get the deal done.

I don't see how, from the above quotes from Mussachio, that is him telling us to jog on. Much more likely it was Villa real or 3rd party telling us to jog on as the price was too low. Just as Southampton told us to jog on as we offered £10m and not £25m for MS

Source and when were the quotes from? Back in the summer or recent?