E17yid
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Back in the summer when it all kicked off (at the start of the process)
Most of the major papers had these quotes.
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Back in the summer when it all kicked off (at the start of the process)
Most of the major papers had these quotes.
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Marcelino now "expects" Musacchio to make the switch to White Hart Lane, despite how difficult he sees the task of finding a replacement.
He told reporters: "It's a situation with three parties: the player, the buyer and the club in the middle and, as I have said many times, if the club sell an important player it's because the right conditions to do so have been met.
"Things will change quite a lot [for this team]. The quality and level of [Musacchio] will make it difficult to find a replacement.
"It's always more complicated to adapt the team to a new defender than to a forward or midfielder [and] it's not easy, at this level, to find a new defender. It won't be easy [to replace him] but the solution, for better or worse, will be found soon."
The coach lamented that, having already wanted to bring in another centre-back this summer, he would now have to find two.
"Mateo is a very important player for Villarreal," he added. "He's an excellent player and will be a difficult loss to cover, especially as he plays in a tough position to reinforce."
This suggests to me that we were actively involved in a negotiation for Mussachio yet we didn';t meet the required price.
I would have thought that the player expressed some kind of interest in joining us at that point otherwise why would the coach come out and say he expects him to leave.
At the end of the day, Mussachio was right, our offer wasn't good enough for the club (or for him) to get the deal done.
I don't see how, from the above quotes from Mussachio, that is him telling us to jog on. Much more likely it was Villa real or 3rd party telling us to jog on as the price was too low. Just as Southampton told us to jog on as we offered £10m and not £25m for MS[/QUOTE]
yep all about the offer which not surprisingly wasn't good enough and then the player comes out saying move wasn't right him, doesn't want to leave etc ......... all pretty standard tbh to those who have any appreciation as to how these things work. Just a shame it gets dressed up as a 'fact' that the player was never interested and told us to jog on from the first contact.
He told reporters: "It's a situation with three parties: the player, the buyer and the club in the middle and, as I have said many times, if the club sell an important player it's because the right conditions to do so have been met.
"Things will change quite a lot [for this team]. The quality and level of [Musacchio] will make it difficult to find a replacement.
"It's always more complicated to adapt the team to a new defender than to a forward or midfielder [and] it's not easy, at this level, to find a new defender. It won't be easy [to replace him] but the solution, for better or worse, will be found soon."
The coach lamented that, having already wanted to bring in another centre-back this summer, he would now have to find two.
"Mateo is a very important player for Villarreal," he added. "He's an excellent player and will be a difficult loss to cover, especially as he plays in a tough position to reinforce."
This suggests to me that we were actively involved in a negotiation for Mussachio yet we didn';t meet the required price.
I would have thought that the player expressed some kind of interest in joining us at that point otherwise why would the coach come out and say he expects him to leave.
At the end of the day, Mussachio was right, our offer wasn't good enough for the club (or for him) to get the deal done.
I don't see how, from the above quotes from Mussachio, that is him telling us to jog on. Much more likely it was Villa real or 3rd party telling us to jog on as the price was too low. Just as Southampton told us to jog on as we offered £10m and not £25m for MS[/QUOTE]
yep all about the offer which not surprisingly wasn't good enough and then the player comes out saying move wasn't right him, doesn't want to leave etc ......... all pretty standard tbh to those who have any appreciation as to how these things work. Just a shame it gets dressed up as a 'fact' that the player was never interested and told us to jog on from the first contact.
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Ah ok, I thought these might have been new and we were going to pretend to try and sign him again in January or something
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Actually I think he did get it. The task set was exceptionally difficult & he wanted the best tools so he could achieve the task. By not getting the best tools he had no chance to achieve the task. Can't blame him for wanting what was needed.
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He did say this though
“I’m fine here. I never said I wanted to leave and I never forced the situation.
“This is my home. I’ve been here since I was very young, I am comfortable here and for that reason I didn’t feel the need to leave.
“When you get offers they have to be good for the club and for the player. In this case it wasn’t good enough for either, so in the end it didn’t happen and I’m carrying on here.
“My head is here. I was always certain that I would continue to give 100 per cent, like I always have.”
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...musacchio-explains-decision-to-snub-tottenham
E17yid
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I know, that's why I said this:
At the end of the day, Mussachio was right, our offer wasn't good enough for the club (or for him) to get the deal done.
What I took objection to was the argument that he told us he didn't want to move. What is more likely, IMO, is that we got told the offer wasn't good enough, 2 very different things
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I'd love to know what he was asking for...
E17yid
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Fuck knows, probably double his wages, assuming he's on around £30k per week????
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Which in the current market is what I'd expect.
If we were trying to get away with paying him under £50k then it's on us in my opinion.
E17yid
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Exactly, same goes for the transfer price as well. I know 3rd party is a ball ache but it's the same as anything else, there's a price, you either pay it or you dont.
Just like MS, they wanted £25 plus, we offered 10-16
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I don't think there's any startling revelations there really is there. Nothing that hasn't been mooted and speculated.
Having sold Modric, VDV & Bale, Levy's expectations were to high as were AVB's expectations of their replacements.
Instead of backing a coach who still managed a record points haul despite replacing two of the above with Dembele and Dempsey, who was in a very healthy position despite then replacing Bale with 6 league newbies, he bent over for the media fuckwits who hated AVB for not being a chirpy cockney with verbal trots and a vocal minority of fans who felt they weren't being entertained enough.
I hope Levy has learnt a huge lesson from the fiasco (the rumblings recently about Pochettino would suggest he maybe has). It was the stupidest and most illogical sacking since Pleat was removed to make way for the shyster Venables.
Having sold Modric, VDV & Bale, Levy's expectations were to high as were AVB's expectations of their replacements.
Instead of backing a coach who still managed a record points haul despite replacing two of the above with Dembele and Dempsey, who was in a very healthy position despite then replacing Bale with 6 league newbies, he bent over for the media fuckwits who hated AVB for not being a chirpy cockney with verbal trots and a vocal minority of fans who felt they weren't being entertained enough.
I hope Levy has learnt a huge lesson from the fiasco (the rumblings recently about Pochettino would suggest he maybe has). It was the stupidest and most illogical sacking since Pleat was removed to make way for the shyster Venables.
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What do you make of the club releasing the statement saying he is rewriting history, especially in relation to VDV?
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VDV was sold ?
Did the club say which history he was re-writing exactly ?
I said at the time if AVB arrived thinking we were going to spend large he was a deluded fool. But so is Levy if he's selling WC players, replacing them with ho hummers and still demanding CL football.
Pochettino's struggled to achieve similar points with the same bunch with an extra year on the clock for most of them, plus a couple of his own signings.
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He makes reference to 'losing VDV' alongside Modric etc. The club said he was one of the main reasons VDV left (or similar without checking again). He can't have it both ways.
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What have the club said ?
Spurs_Bear
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Oh read the thread. Mingebag.
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You're so fucking lazy.
Conveniently skims over the surface of VDV and acts as though he lost a player through no fault of his own. Fact is VDV didn't fit with AVB's philosophy, where as Siggy did and therefore he was one of the main reasons why we didn't keep hold of him. Typical post failure interview, only remembering or referring to the bits that suit. Would be nice if some ex managers held their hands up.
LD is shit and was a bullet well and truly dodged. I suspect had we got him and he failed he would have ignored that too or blamed it on levy. Don;t get me wrong Levy makes lots of fuck ups but some of our managers act like their shit don't stink.
LD is shit and was a bullet well and truly dodged. I suspect had we got him and he failed he would have ignored that too or blamed it on levy. Don;t get me wrong Levy makes lots of fuck ups but some of our managers act like their shit don't stink.
