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Should Levy bite the bullet or give more time?


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felmani26

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Yes but we have played very poorly even when we have had everybody fit. He leaves us with no left back because he doesn't like BAE who was comfortably in the top 5 left backs in the league for years. Ade is what he is, but he is a bloody good player and club comes first. What about Lamela? Please explain to me how Chadli can play at number 10 but Lamela can't? Whenever I have watched him the one thing you can say about him is that he never stops running and always gets stuck in. So even if he is having a poor game creatively he will work his socks off.

No I'm sorry but AVB has had the chances and blown them both.
Benny pissed on his proverbial chips by displaying a shit attitude and I'm not being funny but his performances last year were pretty abject and I'm not getting all misty eyed over someone who says 'Lol' after every bloody tweet!

The regret was not getting another left back in - not getting rid of wasters like Benny.

Ade though annoys me because he clearly has the skill set to thrive in AVB's system but he's proven to be too much of a loose cannon and ultimately unmanageable so you can't possibly rely on someone like that.

Lamela will come good but the only reason Chadli plays at time the number 10 is through circumstance and other subs, not through initial selection and whilst my faith in Lamela's ability is strong, he hasn't taken his opportunities well enough although not to play him against Newcastle does still rankle with me.
 

cwhite02

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again people its not the drubbing against teams its the manner of them and the manner of the wins regardless!! Even we struggled against anzhi at times defending how are we gonna get to champs league like that today?

Exactly. You would have thought we would have a couple of games in the league where you could say we were brilliant today but I'm struggling to remember any.
 

ohtottenham!

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mate they wanted it much more than us, was clear as day, and the difference in work rate was stark
You're right, but they believed in what they were doing from a coach who plays a game to their strengths. We had a left back who made a fair 18 year old winger look like a world-beater today; purely because he had no confidence in his ability or the role assigned to him. He shouldn't even have been anywhere near the pitch, at least in that position. Not his fault. The coach doesn't even know his players.
 

Beni

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You can want whichever manager you want next, you all know in 2 to 3 seasons time, we'll be exactly the same place we are at now.
 

cwhite02

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Its a tad more Gutsy than the ones who said it after the man city game i guess....credit where credits due ;)

I think though it's now people who were on the side to keep AVB or were on the fence who are now calling for a change. That's the difference.
 

Breezer

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Aug 27, 2004
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Agree to an extent but nothing in football 'all boils down too' one thing or one person. Workrate certainly doesn't boil down to the manager's tactics.
But if the players don't believe in AVB's system, they wont bust a gut for him!
 

THOWIG

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Feb 14, 2005
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Completely agree. Those who keep saying the squad is brilliant MIGHT be right, but how can they claim to have ANY evidence to say that with such certainty? None of the signings have been consistent and we already knew players like Dawson, Sigurdsson, Defoe, Naughton were bang average.

The squad is average. People are kidding themselves. We've sold Modric and Bale and replaced them with Paulinho, Chadli, Townsend, Dembele etc....

As soon as we sold Bale I don't know what people expected.
 

KILLA_SIN

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May 24, 2008
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Youre right its all the guy on the sidelines fault - nothing to do with the 11 guys on the pitch who can't pick a pass or hit the target to save their lives.

If you honestly think our squad is full of world beaters then I pity you. Outside of Lloris when he's on form (which he hasn't been for a couple of games), Sandro when he's not injured and Verts then the rest of the players are either just good, inconsistent, immature or still adapting.

Where are the other world beaters? Lamela? struggling to cut it in the Europa yet alone the premiership, doesn't look ready. Paulinho? Seems to be a rather average box to box midfielder (although maybe he is just overplayed at the moment?). Soldado? seems good if you play one very specific system. Dembele? Chiriches? Townsend? Lennon? In-fucking-consistent. Defoe? 10 years and counting still waiting for him to be anything more than mid table.

The squads good but take your Spurs tinted spectacles off, it's not that bloody good.

Tell me which of our players are in the same bracket as Ozil, Silva, Aguero, Suarez, Hazard, RVP, Rooney - go on, i'll wait.

AVB is making mistakes and if there was any chance we could replace him with someone better like Klopp or Hiddink I'd probably say go for it but people who think that's going to happen are deluding themselves. Sherwood and/or Freund is what's we're likely to get. Who knows, maybe they'll be better - fingers crossed hey, because it looks like we're going to find out...

No I pity you because equally you have the same set of glasses on that always makes some spurs fans think our own players are not as good as other teams. There is a few people here, who no matter what, will never except the fact just because it hasn't clicked for some of the players we bought in straight away that they are instantly shit or not good enough. But I have been here for a while I remember the stick Bale, Modric, Carrick, Kaboul, Berbatov etc got while it took them time to settle. I don't need to see world beaters to be able spot talent that hasn't been realised. And I never once mentioned 'world beaters' I said they were all very good players and that this is an excellent squad. This is Tottenham we don't buy world beaters we buy talent. You know the same talent that Bale, Berba, Modric had that we nurtured into great players. What's not to say that all the players I have mentioned may not still make into the next bracket.
 

SpursDave88

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He needs to go. Regular limp performances under his tenure which I can no longer provide excuses for. Bale bailed us out on so many occasions last year and without him, we look average. The worst home defeat for 16 years. Enough is enough, Redknapp was sacked for far less.
 

Graysonti

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The squad is average. People are kidding themselves. We've sold Modric and Bale and replaced them with Paulinho, Chadli, Townsend, Dembele etc....

As soon as we sold Bale I don't know what people expected.

Today was all avb, all avb
 

THFCSPURS19

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Jan 6, 2013
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Daily Fail saying AVB has survived meeting- not that I believe a word from them
 

Bobbins

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May 5, 2005
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Just how much money would it take to prise Martinez away from Everton I wonder...?
 

Damian99

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Mar 17, 2005
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The squad is average. People are kidding themselves. We've sold Modric and Bale and replaced them with Paulinho, Chadli, Townsend, Dembele etc....

As soon as we sold Bale I don't know what people expected.

Is it to much to ask to create a few chances? score more in open play and certainly not get thumped 6-0 and 5-0 or lose at home so badly to West Ham, surely even with these so called poorer players that isn't out of the question.
 
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