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Should Levy bite the bullet or give more time?


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cwhite02

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Why do people think a new manager coming in not wanting AVB's players will be a problem?

AVB doesn't appear to want AVB's players.

Part of the problem is that he doesnt know who to play week in, week out. And what's Chadli been slipping him?
 

Beni

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If Madrid and had offered Liverpool eighty million Suarez would be in Spain now.

Maybe so, but he is still with them, and I also remember them keeping Gerrard aswell a few years back from Chelsea.
 

Spurger King

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I think it lines up very, very convincingly.

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Jeeesus that's a sinister image. Imagine being AVB and looking up to see that trio giving you the death stares.
 

dondo

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Fair enough I think you're right. i had thought it was about 50% each. That said, as Levy is chariman and knowing Lewis' investing history I very much doubt he could control Levy's actions. It's not like a shareholder sacking the management, Levy is significant to how the brand of Spurs has progressed. I think it's clear that over the years Lewis has no interesting in running a club.


He may have no interest of running the club/company the same as my boss he pays other people to do that, but if their are any big decisions to make the top dog makes them
 

RuskyM

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Part of the problem is that he doesnt know who to play week in, week out. And what's Chadli been slipping him?

Thing is, I get picking Chadli (he was actually quite good today for the 20 minutes I watched), but he strikes me as a player I'd expect Redknapp to buy - he's big and imposing, but he's not really that good. Oh, he's good, Premier League level, but I'd rather have Townsend on the left due to his Spurs roots and potential. Also because he's a better attacking player.

I'm trying to think of the biggest thing that could have affected AVB's reign (aside from the obvious), and honestly, I really wonder how different we'd be now had the Joao Moutinho deal gone through.
 

spurs-r-us

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He's not been given the players to play 433. He wanted Villa, Hulk. Not Lamela etc.
More big, technique-less bastards?

Look at half our players. Tall, built Northern African/South American heritage lads who all look and play the same.

Someone like Lamela is what we need to shake things up.
 

YiddoInPoland

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Aug 6, 2011
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think i am close to being done with football for a while, even when we were shit in the 90s there was a little soul left in football, all seems to be gone now and i not getting the same rush watching us play and this season hasn't helped.

AVB if he wants to keep his job needs to find a solution to our attacking problems, i can help him a little..... don't play Sandro, Dembele and Paulinho in litterally 15 games this season with next to no end product and expect the outcome to be different, time to br a bit braver and integrate Lamela and Eriksen into the team and not stop being so scared to open up our play a little.

Also no more right backs as left backs just play fryers, f**k me he can't be any worse then Naughton is there.
 

Beni

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Agree, but you what Levy's like when there's a humungous wad of cash being waved in his face.

I know, and this is the main reason we have been in constant transitional periods over the years. Always playing catch up, then whenever on the brink, going back to square one.
 

joelstinton14

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Out of interest - those who think AVB should be given more time still......

What would be the tipping point for when he should be shown the door
Defeat next against the Saints?

the cup to West Ham? or FA cup to Chelsea?

Dropping into midtable and falling well away from CL place contention?

Remembering our targets for this year was top and if anything to kick on from that level (which has been established as our level since the Jol era really)

What would it take for you as a AVB more time advocate to change your mind and concede he should be replaced?

Not saying all or even any of these things will happen but what would be the scenario that breaks your resolve to keep him in charge?


I know today was painful, but don't we have more points than we did at the same stage last season? i know we havn't played anything close to our potential, but it only takes a couple of small things to change, and everything clicks. Football is kind of fickle like that.
 

shelfmonkey

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Are you seriously saying you had the foresight to know that all of the failed managers we've had in the last 15 or so years were bad choices before they were made? Like Santini and Ramos for example, arguably the worst appointments. Were you on here posting about what bad choices they were going to be and why? I'd love to read that. As far as I remember they both came with some pretty glowing reputations. I was certainly excited by the continental promise they offered. What an interesting parallel to our current predicament come to think of it...
Back then the chorus was 'WHO?!!'


I think what history shows though is Levy is ballsy enough to admit when it's a bad choice and has dealt with it swiftly. Peculiarly both of their replacements turned out to be pretty good for us in Jol and Redknapp.

Ballsy or just plain ingnorant?!!!



As for the squad I can't see the complaint. I think we have a fantastic squad of genuine depth and talent which has taken us years to build and is flourishing in so many ways, not least the recent sale of the worlds most expensive player. It's just we can't get them gelling yet and in this respect I have sympathy for AVB of course it's a tall order.

Nonetheless, how much more of this can we afford?


No complaints about the squad, just the time frame and the fact that Levy didn't allow the manager the players he needed (see BMJ)
 

mattyspurs

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im very ambivalent about the whole thing, but what gets me more than anything is i feel its tiring to watch us at times, i spent the whole gane shouting wake up tottenham lol
I found it much more enjoyable playing Mario Galaxy on the Wii with my two boys whilst occassionaly glancing at the laptop with Sky Go on to see that we had conceded yet another goal.

I have been losing interest in football for quite sometime now, but i'm seriously losing interest in Spurs, not because we are losing i'm not that fickle, fuck i've been supporting us for donkeys, but we are not even losing in an exciting way. It doesn't even look like the players care, so why the fuck should I?
 

shelfmonkey

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I know, and this is the main reason we have been in constant transitional periods over the years. Always playing catch up, then whenever on the brink, going back to square one.

Exactly
 
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