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AVB: The reason for BALE's success?

Aug 12, 2010
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I haven't seen this discussed at all anywhere but I think it needs to be highlighted!

Is AVB the reason for Bales stunning second half of the season display?

AVB has recently recognised that Bale can have more impact through the middle an appears to have shifted his starting position to Central attacking Midfielder from wide left. Should we be praising AVB as the reason for Bales run of form?

Would this be why Sig will now be more involved coming in on the left?

Jim
 

spudtrader

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I have been out of the country for the last 2 months so would be really happy to hear peoples views on this. How long has bale been playing centrally for?
 

theShiznit

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Well he didn't name his daughter 'arry, and go running to QPR after scoring the other day...

(that's a yes btw)
 
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I think I started to really notice it since January. Bale would be found searching for the ball in more central areas and this seems to have very recently progressed into seeing him start in the central role. I think his last minute winner against West Ham and subsequent celebration whereby he jumped into AVB's arms shows exactly how much Bale is thankful to AVB for putting him into that position. I had been thinking if AVB would choose to do this earlier in the season baring in mind the comparisons to Ronaldo. It seems he has done exactly that, and I think for that reason Bale WILL continue his current amazing form.
 

McFlash

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I think Bale had been moving around the pitch a bit more, trying to find space and get on the ball more. Avb recognised this and partly to do with our striker 'crisis', decided to give him the freedom he was after.
We've all seen that Bale had the potential to play further forward and more centrally, and that he seemingly wanted to do this.
Avb gave him the chance and the rest is history.
 

Pringle

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Bale won player of the season 2 years ago, scored a hatrick away against the champions of europe and terrorised teams for a long time before AVB came in. Has he got better? Yes without a doubt - but i would put that down more to age and experience than AVB.
 

Misfit

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Bale has been itching to do this for a while. He also has the inate talent, as we've seen especially in these last few weeks, to play there. So I think Bale would have made the transition eventually. Here or at another club. No doubt that it only workd once (Narge away game sticks out) or twice before is likely to do with him not being ready to make the move just yet and maybe also the coaches not being able to adjust the system to allow him to do so.

AVB has done his job and done it brilliantly though. He's enabled Bale to make the move smoothly and without disrupting the rest of the team.

In fact, it's also a testament to the versatility of the rest of the players in our squad that it can happen so easily. Was looking horrbily disjointed and brainless there for a few months. The hard work during that time seems to be paying dividends now though and all the players suddenly don't seem to have had mass lobotomies.

So yeah. Bale himself, AVB and the other coaches and the other players in the squad have all played their role. Without Bale and his individual talent none of this would be possible but it's the coaches's job to give his players the platform so AVB must take credit for that.

It's the natural progression of his career tbh and a bad coach could have made it lot a harder or seen it not happen at all.

Just as H gave Bale the opportunity to go from being a scrawny LB to one of the most dangerous wingers in the world. Bale needed the talent and drive for that even to be possible but there have been plenty of talented players who have stagnated and quickly slid into obscurity. That's when others have failed in their duties.
 

NEVILLEB

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Bale is the reason for Bale's success.

He has steadily improved under both Redknapp and AVB
 

Shanks

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There was a thread about a year or two ago on here.

I said, I reckon Bale would be unreal right through the middle, up top or in a free position, much like Gerrard used to have at Liverpool when he could actually run.

I got kicked down quite a fair bit for suggesting it, but it's good to see,

AVB is the reason for the 'next level' of performances, someone posted a bloody interesting article about it which I've just read.

Whilst we didn't have many options up top, it all seemed to fit quite naturally though.
 

stemark44

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Bale is improving by the week,settling down,having a child and understanding the managers tactics have all lead to his improvement.
I said after his kid was born that he would grow up a bit and gain a new belief in himself..................I firmly believe that he will score 40 goals next season.
 
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Bale is the reason for Bale's success.

He has steadily improved under both Redknapp and AVB

He is part of it but not solely the reason. Redknapp used to say that he was a bit of a wimp, got injured lots. They've had to work hard on him over the years but his natural talent is coming through in huge amounts now!!
 

NEVILLEB

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There was a thread about a year or two ago on here.

I said, I reckon Bale would be unreal right through the middle, up top or in a free position, much like Gerrard used to have at Liverpool when he could actually run.

I got kicked down quite a fair bit for suggesting it, but it's good to see,

AVB is the reason for the 'next level' of performances, someone posted a bloody interesting article about it which I've just read.

Whilst we didn't have many options up top, it all seemed to fit quite naturally though.

I remember that. Agreed with you.

I'm still laughing at those who said he could only play left back!
 

StockSpur

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The best move by AVB was to tell bale to move further into the pitch to get the ball, on the wng he is apt to stand still in the same position waving his arms like keane used to.
 

shelfmonkey

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Bale won player of the season 2 years ago, scored a hatrick away against the champions of europe and terrorised teams for a long time before AVB came in. Has he got better? Yes without a doubt - but i would put that down more to age and experience than AVB.


A bit harsh on AVB, when 'Arry was in charge I don't think any player improved (that's to say, added another dimension to their game) under his coaching staff, yes matchday motivation improved and he simplified our game which made easier for our players: i.e round pegs in round holes, but AVB is lightyears ahead of 'Arry and his coaching methods, another example is Lennon, he's become twice the player almost overnight!!
 

JerryGarcia

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I remember that. Agreed with you.

I'm still laughing at those who said he could only play left back!

I don't remember anyone saying he could only play LB, more that Bale himself at the time said LB was his prefered position so he was one at the time. I'm going to shut up now because I don't wan't to start the debate again :troll:
 

punkisback

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I don't remember anyone saying he could only play LB, more that Bale himself at the time said LB was his prefered position so he was one at the time. I'm going to shut up now because I don't wan't to start the debate again :troll:
Redknapp thought last year that his best position would be at LB like Ashley Cole, even after a two seasons of playing him on the wing.
 

hodsgod

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I haven't seen this discussed at all anywhere but I think it needs to be highlighted!

Is AVB the reason for Bales stunning second half of the season display?

AVB has recently recognised that Bale can have more impact through the middle an appears to have shifted his starting position to Central attacking Midfielder from wide left. Should we be praising AVB as the reason for Bales run of form?

Would this be why Sig will now be more involved coming in on the left?

Jim

I don't understand the logic, you want to credit AVB for playing Bale in a position that Hary did last season.

The credit may well be down to AVB, who can know what he has said to him tactically and how me may have improved training techniques etc.

As always I am sure it is a combination of many factors, Bale maturing may well be the largest, it isn't uncommon for players to be improving at Bales current age. I believe VDV not being in the team gives Bale more scope to perform too, they aren't competing for space in the middle.
 
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