AVB's success at Porto.
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Well of course the players he had made it easier, they were far and away the strongest squad in Portugal. Also the players at his disposal suited his tactics and style of play perfectly. Having said that he had them playing some great stuff and the record speaks for itself, he beat some pretty good teams in Europe.
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What bothers me Donki is, anybody can come into a team with world superstars and be a success. But we are some ways off having a true super star striker like Falcao. I wonder if Levy had one of those "Being There" moments, when it came to AVB?
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I am really trying to back AVB s much as I can, he is here now and I want him to be successful so badly. I was a fan of Harry and had great respect for what he done for us, but at the end of the day I support Tottenham Hotspur football club not an individual. Having said that, the thing that bothers me about AVB, and again I dont want to be too critical YET, is I don't think he has a plan B, a plan C or any other plan than plan FC Porto. He is too focused on "his project" and how he wants us to play instead of maybe changing his tactics to suit the players at his disposal. IMO a truely great manager is a dynamic one, he knows what he has and he knows how to get the best out of them. So far I am not seeing this, yes its only 3 games in but who can honestly say they didnt have the games against Norwich and WBA down as wins? I am hoping for our first win of the season in our next 2 league games as we will be needing some confidence for Man U and the Chavs.
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IMO Moutinho was de facto Porto manager, like 'JT' for Chelsea. This is proved by the fact that AVB and him are apparently great friends. No Moutinho, no tictacs
Good post - but I hope you/I am bloody wrong. But your getting my train of thought here.
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IMO Moutinho was de facto Porto manager, like 'JT' for Chelsea. This is proved by the fact that AVB and him are apparently great friends. No Moutinho, no tictacs
Come on, so u mean AVB cant adapt?
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I want to see what AVB does in our next game at home. Twice we have switched formations, got a goal, then switched back and conceded. The switch to 4-4-2 hasn't been the reason for us scoring, but the switch back to a more defensive setup after taking the lead has been the reason for us succumbing to pressure.
Against weaker teams, especially at home, we should look to be more attacking, have more men committed forward, and use the wings. My worry is that AVB is wedded to a system regardless of the personnel at his disposal, and he will want players to do things they are not good at. Sometimes you have to tell players to do what they would rather not do (Bale stick to the left, for example) to serve the team's interests, sometimes you have to adjust tactics to suit your players. I'll be interested to see which way AVB goes.
Against weaker teams, especially at home, we should look to be more attacking, have more men committed forward, and use the wings. My worry is that AVB is wedded to a system regardless of the personnel at his disposal, and he will want players to do things they are not good at. Sometimes you have to tell players to do what they would rather not do (Bale stick to the left, for example) to serve the team's interests, sometimes you have to adjust tactics to suit your players. I'll be interested to see which way AVB goes.
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They had won the league in 5 of 6 seasons before he arrived and the Cup for the previous two seasons.They had reached the last 16 or better of the Champions League for the previous four seasons.
For his season in that they dropped down to the Europa after finishing 3rd the previous season and then won that, so that was the extra trophy he brought.
A good achievement but that is his entire CV apart from a few months with another Portuguese club and the Chelsea debacle.
For his season in that they dropped down to the Europa after finishing 3rd the previous season and then won that, so that was the extra trophy he brought.
A good achievement but that is his entire CV apart from a few months with another Portuguese club and the Chelsea debacle.
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Superstars! I guess that would class Oscar Cardozo as a superstar since he outscored him that season and the season before they finished 3rd and AVB had to replace Meirelles with Moutinho
They were much improved the season under AVB and players like Guarin looked like great players over night
Really his scouting report clearly show that he can do tactics and understand them well, it also takes time for players to adopt tactics and a style of playIMO Moutinho was de facto Porto manager, like 'JT' for Chelsea. This is proved by the fact that AVB and him are apparently great friends. No Moutinho, no tictacs
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Listening to Durham and that fat prick Micky Quinn on the way home and they literally made out that a monkey could have replicated what AVB achieved at Porto with the players at his disposal.
Of course that's a load of cods wallop and to go unbeaten in that season for Poro deserves a huge amount of credit so let's not belittle that achievement in trying to find reasons to knock him now.
Of course that's a load of cods wallop and to go unbeaten in that season for Poro deserves a huge amount of credit so let's not belittle that achievement in trying to find reasons to knock him now.
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Trouble with me is I cant find any rational to expunge that first half from my memory. I was in a state of 'fan' shock. I'm feeling a little more positive now. Then my son and I started talking about Porto and Falcao showing Chelsea what Torres should be doing, and our mood darkened again.
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Porto finished 3rd the season prior to AVB joining them. He obviously improved them a fair bit to then completely dominate and stroll to the title.
In an ideal world he should probably have stayed there and quite possibly should still be there and have a few more trophies to his name as well as having an even bigger reputation than he enjoyed before he went to the plastics.
I think he will come good. I'm just praying it's with us!
In an ideal world he should probably have stayed there and quite possibly should still be there and have a few more trophies to his name as well as having an even bigger reputation than he enjoyed before he went to the plastics.
I think he will come good. I'm just praying it's with us!
