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Kalim

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yes, lets add yet another attacking midfielder when there already isn't nearly enough time for who they have already instead of another striker or back they desperately need
Agree, but we dont know who is going through the revolving door the other way.
 

tototoner

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Would love Bernard at the club, but not whilst Tim is in charge. If we ever decided to move back to 4231 you could do a lot worse then Bernard left, Erikson middle and Lamela right but as Tim is playing 442 with a vengeance Bernard would ether be bench fodder or keep Eriksen or Lamela out of the team.

Keep Lamela out if the team, that's funny
 

Spurz

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He will be lightweight and pushed off the ball a lot like Lamela now, we are trying to toughen our own player, don't need to help some Russian club toughen theirs.
 

Legend10

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Would love Bernard at the club, but not whilst Tim is in charge. If we ever decided to move back to 4231 you could do a lot worse then Bernard left, Erikson middle and Lamela right but as Tim is playing 442 with a vengeance Bernard would ether be bench fodder or keep Eriksen or Lamela out of the team.


Have you seen Bernard play much?
 

Legend10

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Could be a good move for him and us. He looked very promising but has struggled to get playing time at Shakhtar and it's easy to argue he might find the same problem with us, but he looks a very creative player and one that can interchange with others. I honestly don't think we have any real left winger bar Townsend, Siggy is no winger and Chadli is more I guess an attacker than a winger. I could imagine Lamela on the right and Bernard on the left a very decent couple of creative players to give Bobby Soldado some decent service and to give us different attacking options to Lennon, Townsend and Eriksen. It would be a very good mix and give us lots of attacking options
The only thing I would want us to have would be an agreed option price to take him in summer


Same, have you seen much of Bernard at Shaktar?
 

TEESSIDE1

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He will be lightweight and pushed off the ball a lot like Lamela now, we are trying to toughen our own player, don't need to help some Russian club toughen theirs.

Maybe Sherwood is looking to deploy him in the Coutinho role ... he's a midget but his vision is outstanding.
 

Mattspur

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If he can't get a game for Shaktar in the Ukrainian league then how's he going to fair in the Prem?

Doesn't make sense to me.
 

Legend10

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Stop this nonsense, only people who haven't been watching Bernard would be saying we should be considering him.
 

ostrov

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Sherwood: We are looking but not actively trying to sign someone
Metro: We are desperately trying to get some hits on our website.
 

Barry Mead

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Same, have you seen much of Bernard at Shaktar?

He hasn't played that much and I rarely watch Ukranian football these days, but I saw a bit of him before he moved and was impressed with him, good skill, good vision, seemed to be able to carve openings and know where players were. The sort of thing we could do with, we have lots of pacy options, but few with a final ball, and against tight defences pace might create an opportunity but if the final ball doesn't find a player then once again you are struggling.
I think with Shakhtar they are that much stronger than the other teams and the fact that he isn't playing much isn't necessarily a negative thing they buy Brazilian attacking players and are not really rushing to play them, they have had a gradual turnover over a number of seasons, Teixeira for example now starting to look real quality didn't play much when he first arrived, Willian was gradually introduced and took quite a while to adjust to the league, Jadson another excellent Brazilian for Shakhtar was gradually introduced. Bernard no doubt is thinking about the World Cup Lucescu no doubt is more concerned about Shakhtar. Of course he could take a while to adjust to the PL some players hit the ground running some take a while, I just think he has the ability toi find players with a decent final ball and that's something we could do with when facing tight defences that we often encounter. He's not the only player that can do that of course there are other options but if we can get him on a loan and have an option to buy then I think that would be a great opportunity for us
Of course you must have seen him lots because you feel we don't need him, lets hear what it is you don't like about the guy
 

Legend10

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He hasn't played that much and I rarely watch Ukranian football these days, but I saw a bit of him before he moved and was impressed with him, good skill, good vision, seemed to be able to carve openings and know where players were. The sort of thing we could do with, we have lots of pacy options, but few with a final ball, and against tight defences pace might create an opportunity but if the final ball doesn't find a player then once again you are struggling.
I think with Shakhtar they are that much stronger than the other teams and the fact that he isn't playing much isn't necessarily a negative thing they buy Brazilian attacking players and are not really rushing to play them, they have had a gradual turnover over a number of seasons, Teixeira for example now starting to look real quality didn't play much when he first arrived, Willian was gradually introduced and took quite a while to adjust to the league, Jadson another excellent Brazilian for Shakhtar was gradually introduced. Bernard no doubt is thinking about the World Cup Lucescu no doubt is more concerned about Shakhtar. Of course he could take a while to adjust to the PL some players hit the ground running some take a while, I just think he has the ability toi find players with a decent final ball and that's something we could do with when facing tight defences that we often encounter. He's not the only player that can do that of course there are other options but if we can get him on a loan and have an option to buy then I think that would be a great opportunity for us
Of course you must have seen him lots because you feel we don't need him, lets hear what it is you don't like about the guy


Well i have seen him lots and he isn't as good as anything we have, Lennon, Townsend, Lamela, Chadli are all better than him! He's alarmingly lightweight and even when he's bought on and Shaktar are dominating he doesn't look anything special and he's not going to be a starter at Shaktar anytime soon simply because they have better players than him. Douglas Costa is the best wide player at Shaktar and would be far better in England than Bernard, other than that in Ukraine Yarmalenko and Konoplyanka are both much better players than Bernard.
 
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