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I can't remember where I read it (and it was only in the last day or two) but Sky reckon their CL viewing figures were massively down, something like 30-odd percent.
 

WalkerboyUK

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I can't remember where I read it (and it was only in the last day or two) but Sky reckon their CL viewing figures were massively down, something like 30-odd percent.

Yeah, BT claimed that was just sour grapes from Sky and then they said that 5.1 million watched the final on ITV, compared to 600,000 on Sky.
 

cwhite02

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I wouldn't class it as a dud but I don't think it'll get the viewing figures they desire, they may view it as a loss leader.

The stats that Sky put out are true but that's also sour grapes from them, they did an excellent job with the Champions League, just bow out gracefully.

They better retain La Liga, Revista must continue.

I would also add, BT has not bought the football rights just to get people to pay for football, it's bringing customers in on the broadband, TV, landline and soon to be mobile package, or as they call quad play services.
 

WalkerboyUK

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I would also add, BT has not bought the football rights just to get people to pay for football, it's bringing customers in on the broadband, TV, landline and soon to be mobile package, or as they call quad play services.

Well that's an obvious statement, seeing as you can't get BT TV without taking up broadband and phone with them!!
At least with Sky they give you the option of TV, Broadband, Phone separately.
Another reason I won't move to BT, because they then control that market. They can do what they want in terms of raising price for phone/broadband and you can't drop it and keep TV.
 

worcestersauce

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Of course, those with BT Broadband already are outright winners and that's fair enough.
Personally I'm not convinced BT will have high enough viewing figures from their European coverage to maintain it being "free".
49 of the 50 most watch PL games last season were viewed on Sky.
3.1 million people watched Chelsea v United in October.
BT's highest figure, out of 38 games shown on BT, was 1.7 million for us against Chelsea.
Only two of Sky's CL games would have made it into the top 50, which does suggest that maybe BT have bought a dud.
No doubt that is also down to the time slots they have but actually the thing is that it doesn't really matter about the figures what matters is that they have the matches and sky don't.
Sky had all the football and BT did broadband and then Sky muscled in on BT's business offering deals if people took Sky television, telephones and broadband which if allowed to go unchallenged would have ruined BT and thats why they have moved onto Sky's turf, it really is a fight to the death that Sky started.
 
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etchedchaos

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BT aren't some underdog, if not for Ofcom, BT would have a complete and utter monopoly on landline and adsl rates. Ofcom forced BT to lower the prices to provide vendors with access to landlines and broadband via phone exchanges, which led to prices being low enough that Sky could jump in too.

Now Sky are providing a better product, BT went after them in the TV game, unfortunately though instead of consumers getting better priced options, we have to pay more for sports and if BT jump in on the Movie Channel and US TV game, we'll probably have to pay more for that too.
 

Lilbaz

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Well that's an obvious statement, seeing as you can't get BT TV without taking up broadband and phone with them!!
At least with Sky they give you the option of TV, Broadband, Phone separately.
Another reason I won't move to BT, because they then control that market. They can do what they want in terms of raising price for phone/broadband and you can't drop it and keep TV.

You can get Virgin without broadband or telephone.


Will they start charging for BT sports next season?
 

allatsea

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BT aren't some underdog, if not for Ofcom, BT would have a complete and utter monopoly on landline and adsl rates. Ofcom forced BT to lower the prices to provide vendors with access to landlines and broadband via phone exchanges, which led to prices being low enough that Sky could jump in too.

Now Sky are providing a better product, BT went after them in the TV game, unfortunately though instead of consumers getting better priced options, we have to pay more for sports and if BT jump in on the Movie Channel and US TV game, we'll probably have to pay more for that too.

Agree particularly the last paragraph. The answer is not to pay for these movie channels. All the films all eventually appear on the free to view channels just some months or a year or so after they have appeared on the pay to view channels. The subscribers are encouraging Sky and BT by being prepared to pay so much for something they could view for view six months or so later.
 

Cavehillspur

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So Sky have lost all CL games, lets see what they do with their subscription rates now, they'll probably hike them up again, joke. I'll be cancelling soon, fuckin hate BT lol
 

brasil_spur

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I have Sky (i watch a lot of Sky Atlantic series and am more used ot the Sky platform) and Virgin very basic TB package (as i live in an area where only Virgin Broadband works properly so have it for the broadband). So i could go with either company and that's cool.

However i largely refuse to buy Skys top package and Virgins top package to get access to maybe 15 live Spurs PL games next season.

So despite all this acccess i think i'll jump on the streaming bandwagon, seems to be the way to go.
 

tototoner

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The NFL and Formula 1 are the other sports that I watch consistently on Sky Sports.

When I eventually sign up for BT it'll mainly be for mainly European football (domestic) and the NBA.
I watch more golf, tennis and cricket on sky sports than football but that's because they last a lot longer
 
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