Capoue

[Spursh]

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Real Sociedad hope to complete the loan signing of Tottenham midfielder Etienne Capoue next week #THFC (Source: Mail)

 

[JamieSpursCommunityUser]

If he doesn't feature much in Poch's plans, and the problem for us with movement in is wages, I don't see the harm in it tbh. Otherwise he's soaking up wages to play the occasional match.

I'd love to see Capoue hit a streak of form as I still think he's capable of being a great DM for us, but with Stambouli showing some very nice play today I have to admit I'm more ambivalent to a proposed Capoue loan.

As I see it Capoue loan only makes sense if we're taking Rabiot - or have a big purchase lined up.

Neither look like bankers.

A loan doesn't solve the wages issue - which I suspect is mostly a budget and not a cash problem.

ie we have an ideal % of turnover for our wage bill, which we've maxed out (and have new contracts pending).

If we could sell Paulinho then we have more flexibility to manoeuvre.

 

[yankspurs]

Buy or GTFO.

Lennon, Naughton, Kaboul, Capoue, Carroll - 28m

Schneiderlin - 30m
Recall Pritchard

Sorted.

 

[prawnsandwich]

http://www.london24.com/sport/footb...idfielder_january_transfer_priority_1_3925289

"If Spurs do decide Capoue is available, they will want to match or surpass the £9million fee they paid for the 26-year-old, however Sociedad would be interested in a loan move."

 

[Sweech]

As I see it Capoue loan only makes sense if we're taking Rabiot - or have a big purchase lined up.

Neither look like bankers.

A loan doesn't solve the wages issue - which I suspect is mostly a budget and not a cash problem.

ie we have an ideal % of turnover for our wage bill, which we've maxed out (and have new contracts pending).

If we could sell Paulinho then we have more flexibility to manoeuvre.

Real Sociedad do have several players I'd be interested in though, so this could be a friendly gesture towards acquiring one of their players.

 

[DaSpurs]

As I see it Capoue loan only makes sense if we're taking Rabiot - or have a big purchase lined up.

Neither look like bankers.

A loan doesn't solve the wages issue - which I suspect is mostly a budget and not a cash problem.

ie we have an ideal % of turnover for our wage bill, which we've maxed out (and have new contracts pending).

If we could sell Paulinho then we have more flexibility to manoeuvre.

Sales would obviously be preferable, but a loan still retains some purpose. It would a) go ahead and get him off the wage books for the time being so we could take care of our own business, b) is possible to add worth or incite interest, especially since he's rarely playing here anymore anyway, and c) frees up a squad non-HG place for the time being for an extra addition.

So yeah sale would obviously be the right choice and especially a few other players first, but a loan would not be entirely useless.

 

[chinaman]

I think if we decide to sell, Levy can make a slight profit.

 

[Japhet]

I'd prefer to keep him simply because it's only Capoue and Stambouli of our CMs who actually like a tackle or two. The others might be more dynamic going forward (debatable though) but you wouldn't want to play behind any of them as a CB.

 

[JamieSpursCommunityUser]

Sales would obviously be preferable, but a loan still retains some purpose. It would a) go ahead and get him off the wage books for the time being so we could take care of our own business, b) is possible to add worth or incite interest, especially since he's rarely playing here anymore anyway, and c) frees up a squad non-HG place for the time being for an extra addition.

So yeah sale would obviously be the right choice and especially a few other players first, but a loan would not be entirely useless.

That all makes good sense, but as it stands a Capoue loan only allows us to loan in.

It doesn't allow us to buy, else our wage liabilities in June will be enormous, and buyers take the p*ss or delay knowing we need a quick sale.

Then we can't do any early summer business (big players move early June or Late August - nothing happens inbetween).

Outgoings have been a regular problem for us in summer windows, and why we couldn't move for MS early enough.

The club needs to keep holding it's nerve - one of Paulinho or Capoue will get sold late Jan. Probably Lennon and Kaboul too.

Clubs will play games and look for a deal, but bottom line is there's more money in football than there is talent.

Clubs need to avoid relegation, or fight for Europe - and Capoue for £9-10m is pretty low risk.

 

[DaSpurs]

That all makes good sense, but as it stands a Capoue loan only allows us to loan in.

It doesn't allow us to buy, else our wage liabilities in June will be enormous, and buyers take the p*ss or delay knowing we need a quick sale.

Then we can't do any early summer business (big players move early June or Late August - nothing happens inbetween).

Outgoings have been a regular problem for us in summer windows, and why we couldn't move for MS early enough.

The club needs to keep holding it's nerve - one of Paulinho or Capoue will get sold late Jan. Probably Lennon and Kaboul too.

Clubs will play games and look for a deal, but bottom line is there's more money in football than there is talent.

Clubs need to avoid relegation, or fight for Europe - and Capoue for £9-10m is pretty low risk.

It is undoubtedly a risk, as you're right it only adds to the problem in the summer, especially if the loan does not go well. I agree I favor a sale, but honestly I think given the quality of Capoue that I think he could return to easily on the continent, I'd be prepared to take that risk for the sake of an incoming talent who could improve our chances of accomplishing our ambitions for this term.

 

[HappySpur]

Seems odd that there are so many loan links. I wonder if Capoue is on wages well over what he should earn, which then makes him tough to sell. Because we didn't spend an exorbitant amount on him and could probably recoup most of the transfer fee. .

 

[DaSpurs]

Seems odd that there are so many loan links. I wonder if Capoue is on wages well over what he should earn, which then makes him tough to sell. Because we didn't spend an exorbitant amount on him and could probably recoup most of the transfer fee. .

Loans are pretty common January moves as I'm sure you know, and we did just have some ITK from Trix I believe saying that we had quite a few loan interests in our players.

 

[ButchCassidy]

If rumors are true, Capoue is one of our dressing room disruptions as well as seemingly not fitting the system. Loan him out for 6 months in the shop window, sell in summer. In the meantime get one of Poch's targets to replace him or loan in Rabiot.

 

[prawnsandwich]

Capoue is a funny player. He is a massive lump and he is skilful. He just does not have the desire for me, matron.

 

[gushayes11]

Capoue is a funny player. He is a massive lump and he is skilful. He just does not have the desire for me, matron.

It's just his running style, his shoulders hunch which makes him look slower than he is. Not a massive lump. He's a good in the tackle and can pass. Not saying he's my favourite player but out of the 3 trouble makers, he's the one I'd rather keep.

 

[prawnsandwich]

It's just his running style, his shoulders hunch which makes him look slower than he is. Not a massive lump. He's a good in the tackle and can pass. Not saying he's my favourite player but out of the 3 trouble makers, he's the one I'd rather keep.

He is my 1st out of the door. I really don't think we would miss him.
I never really understood why we bought him. He wasn't cheap. He doesn't really "do" anything.

 

[sim0n]

Moyes wants him apparently.
Capoue in my mind is the odd one out when Bentaleb comes back, I wouldn't be surprised if ala Holtby he's loaned out deadline day.

yes, sell and no loan. sell him to real sociedad before they sack Moyes -- decent player capoue, but not a good fit for Spurs -- Bon Chance mon Ami!!!

 

[yido_number1]

Buy or GTFO.

Lennon, Naughton, Kaboul, Capoue, Carroll - 28m

Schneiderlin - 30m
Recall Pritchard

Sorted.

You been drinking?

yes, sell and no loan. sell him to real sociedad before they sack Moyes -- decent player capoue, but not a good fit for Spurs -- Bon Chance mon Ami!!!

Moyes beat Barca the other day and have been doing ok

 

[yankspurs]

You been drinking?

Always

 

[rossdapep]

I didn't really understand the signing at the time as we had Dembele and Sandro. Seemed like a "could turn into a top prospect" signing, although I guess more was maybe expecting in an attacking sense from Dembele. If we could could recoup some and put it towards a deep lying creative midfielder it would be good business and I'd be happy to see him go.