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Discussion in 'General Football' started by Spursmad321, May 14, 2016.
.... He's shit anyway.
Didnt see that coming. Is this a Conte signing?
Anyway, I dont think he will be a hit at chelsea.
It may well be. I know Juve were interested this summer and Conte's familiar with the same people who generally scout for Juve, and vice versa. Perhaps both have been keeping tabs on Batshuayi for a number of years now.
The real question is where do Chelsea loan him to for the season? He's too good for Vitesse.
I'm starting to think we won't sign this lad.
Chelsea signing him is just a smokescreen.
Just a bit of posturing. We've got this.
jokes on chelsea because we got michy in on a pre contract at 2021
Chelsea may well be playing 3-5-2 though so maybe he'll be partnering Costa up top?
I'd quite like us to play 3-5-2 as miss the days of strike partnerships
Conte apparently wants to bring Pelle in from Southampton, which would point towards it being the end for Costa.
Michy + Costa would be a nightmare to be fair. Pretty sure Costa will be off but does explain the Pelle to Chelsea links coming out of Italy today.
Regardless it is a significant amount to pay for a striker that is far from proven, I stand by that, but Chelsea can afford to speculate.
Back 3 sets get murdered in the Prem. We've seen it happen time and again where they can get away with it for a few games and then the puzzle gets solved. LvG tried it, Rodgers tried it, Bilic tried it, heck plenty have tried. There's still too many teams that overload the wings and fling in crosses for fun and that's really tough for back 3s to handle.
Wasn't that bothered about him. And for that fee too, just for backup! No way.
True, but none of those 3 are italian, worldclass tactician though. Im nor saying it would work here for sure bit surely there is a better chance with conte though? I mean, the italian defence in general and Juventus under Conte were pretty decent
The only reason he started playing the 3-5-2 was to accommodate Pirlo, and he continued with it for Italy because you'd have to be mad to split up that defensive 3 given the option. Right now it's a clean slate tactically, and given his midfield creator is the (not particularly Pirlo-esque) Fabregas I'd guess he'll look to do something different.
He used the Same 3 CBs and GK at both, they're used to the system. Back 3 sets work in Italy and they work at the national level. LVG had great success with a back 3 for Holland and it got immediately destroyed when he tried it here.
That is true. But still think it could work in the PL with a man like Conte in the dugout. Idk if the chelsea defenders could handle it though
Well that's the point...if they don't handle it then it doesn't work...there have been a plethora of strong Italian managers in this league who have used back 3's. Getting it to work here is incredibly different.
He won't have Buffon, Bonucci, Barzagli, and Chiellini with him like he did at Juve and the national team.
He built both his Juve and Italy teams around those 4. Those 3 centre backs play so well together, they can read each other so well. It just won't work at Chelsea unless he can craft something there. Conte hasn't always been a 3-5-2 guy though. Beforehand he was very much 4-4-2 and after Ranieri's success with that kind of formation he may revert to it (albeit Conte normally does it as a diamond with a DM, 2 CMs and an AM). He was also known to go 4-3-3 on occasion with Juve if there was an injury or suspension to one of the back 3. He's flexible if he needs to be.
Yeah, he reportedly used a back 4 more than he even used a back 3 while he was at Juve.
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