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Conte Questions Spurs Ambitions..

klacey

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We also have a number of Academy players, who haven't yet made many PL starts, making good progress, e.g. Onomah, Winks, KWP, CCV and others. Some of them are likely to play more games this year, Winks & Onomah, and others should make a few appearances as they are gradually brought through to the 1st team squad. When did Chelscum ever have so many players break through from their youth system?

They are running scared that we will finish above them without spending a fraction of the money they have. Then see what the mad Russian does!
I totally agree. We are not in a bad position at all. In fact the opposite. Because we aren't saying we need improvement here and improvement there. We have the main core team sorted and if the right player comes along that will strengthen us then great. This is new territory for a spurs fan. lol

Other teams know how good we are and the managers are playing a few mind games.
 

felmani26

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Honestly, people getting themselves in a right fucking tiz about this.

Just take it as a compliment that we are in the firing line of 'mind games' rather than being noisy underlings like West Ham or even Everton.

Hardly the boost of confidence Morata needs either...
 

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I this think he may have done us a favour...cant wait until Pochs next press conf. Hope he points out that the players hes 'tapping up' (sorry, likes the most) basically cost us nothing so maybe we're onto something with our Academy and scouting. Either way, the psychology behind the commentary is really interesting IMO.
 

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He's saying in a roundabout way that Poch is under far less pressure than he is to deliver success, so if Poch fails it will be alright. I think Levy and our vast array of supporters view this in a slightly different manner. Poch is under just as much pressure to push on, as Conte is to consolidate. In fact with all the money Conte has spent, consolidation will be easier to maintain than a manager who will have to mount another challenge with the same squad.
 
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Anyone just familiar with our premiership years would think that our expectations are mid-table and the last 2 years have been exceptional.
Anyone just familiar with Chelsea's premiership years would think that they were one of the top clubs in europe and not basically a struggling, but entertaining, 2nd division team with unaffordable ambitions, until it was all bought for them.

So it is understandable that Conte thinks like this, but anyone with a slightly longer memory knows this club is just as entitled to have expectations of regular top 4 football and trophies as any other. I wish they'd rebrand the premiership and make it part of the football league again or something, and we can just draw a line under what has been overall a pretty forgettable period for the club.
 

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I think people are reading this wrong somewhat.

This, and Mourinho's comments yesterday are both borne out of frustration at their failure to lure our players away. In the frustration they are now seeking to pile pressure on us. Conte admits to asking about Walker, and I think we can safely assume they at least asked about Kane if he's the striker above all in the world he'd want. They are frustrated that they can't just buy the players they want, and as Mourinho said, Walker was sold because we wanted him gone.

I don't think this is looking to unsettle players, but more just ramp pressure on us, but it just makes them look stupid.
 

Bus-Conductor

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40736388

Rather saddened by this article.....shows Conte as just another Pep or Mourinho...."Success has to be bought" philosophy.....always had him down as different to the other two.
Would dearly love to prove them all wrong next season !

With the exception of including Liverpool (with ManU, ManC, Arsenal and Chelsea) in his initial statement about it being less of a "tragedy" if we don't win the league, qualify for CL or exit CL early, than it is for those teams (baring in mind Liverpool have been way behind us most of the last few years) he is pretty much just being honest. A club's expectation levels will be commensurate with their wage bill (and to a secondary degree, transfer budget).

It's lovely for the richest four clubs to be able to spend what they spend and pay the astronomical wages that they do, but with that comes massive expectation. For Arsenal to finish outside the top 4 is a tragedy for their model, if they do it a couple more times it will be a catastrophe. For us, with a wage bill that isn't dependent or modelled on regular CL football or gigantic commercial revenues we aren't going to implode if we don't get CL football three years running and anything above 6th is over achieving on our wage structure.

Even for Liverpool, it is slightly more of a tragedy than it is for us because they do have a higher wage bill than us.
 

Bus-Conductor

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The Kane stuff is quite funny really, as I've just said elsewhere, he's basically just said to the Chelsea board that they chucked 60m on his third choice striker, and despite spending that we still have a better striker.

Conte is a very good coach but he's always been a fucking whiney ****. He was forever blubbing about Juve's board not backing him, and the players they often brought in were better than the ones he wanted to spend fortunes on. Just ask @Syn_13 I'm sure he'll back that up.
 

waresy

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All these articles and comments about our lack of activity are because we are currently not playing the same game as everyone else in the inflated market.

Conte's and others suggestion that we won't be competing or have different aims is probably born of the thought that we are doing something different and it possibly worries them. Also helps justify their own tactic.

Let's be honest can we see us not having signed a single player come September? But do we need 6? No and we've tried that before and we know how that went.
 

Lilbaz

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What do you think he is going to say? He was asked about our methods compared to chelsea, ofcourse he is going to say spending money is the right way.

Everyone on here would love it if money wasn't a problem for us and we could spend £hundreds ofmillions without batting an eye. But we can't and have to be careful of which players we buy. So far we have done well with the resources we have.
 

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Ultimately he's not wrong about spending money and expectations.

Personally, if we spent £100m this transfer window on a couple of players (not to mention the wage cost of employing superstars) to really improve the first XI my expectations for the coming season would be higher than if we didn't. At the same time, losing Kyle Walker and replacing him in terms of the squad with Kyle Walker-Peters reduces my expectations.

Of course I will get behind the team and the academy player(s) but to expect them to have the same impact as a £50m player is absurd. Not impossible that they don't of course.
 

Syn_13

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The Kane stuff is quite funny really, as I've just said elsewhere, he's basically just said to the Chelsea board that they chucked 60m on his third choice striker, and despite spending that we still have a better striker.

Conte is a very good coach but he's always been a fucking whiney ****. He was forever blubbing about Juve's board not backing him, and the players they often brought in were better than the ones he wanted to spend fortunes on. Just ask @Syn_13 I'm sure he'll back that up.

In Italy it's always been customary for the clubs to use a "director of football" to not just handle transfers but actually identify and pursue targets based on scout recommendations. Conte was never a fan of this and didn't like the fact that Beppe Marotta would make decisions on his behalf. He can't complain though, it certainly wasn't himself who scouted and acquired the likes of Pogba, Vidal and Pirlo.
 

Ionman34

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With the exception of including Liverpool (with ManU, ManC, Arsenal and Chelsea) in his initial statement about it being less of a "tragedy" if we don't win the league, qualify for CL or exit CL early, than it is for those teams (baring in mind Liverpool have been way behind us most of the last few years) he is pretty much just being honest. A club's expectation levels will be commensurate with their wage bill (and to a secondary degree, transfer budget).

It's lovely for the richest four clubs to be able to spend what they spend and pay the astronomical wages that they do, but with that comes massive expectation. For Arsenal to finish outside the top 4 is a tragedy for their model, if they do it a couple more times it will be a catastrophe. For us, with a wage bill that isn't dependent or modelled on regular CL football or gigantic commercial revenues we aren't going to implode if we don't get CL football three years running and anything above 6th is over achieving on our wage structure.

Even for Liverpool, it is slightly more of a tragedy than it is for us because they do have a higher wage bill than us.
That is how I understood his comments, though I do also agree that there is an amount of mind games involved as well. He's highlighted Kane and, reading between the lines, it's almost like he's saying to Kane look at us, we EXPECT to be in CL every year whereas your current club do not. You are the best striker in the World, you should be in the CL every year and we can give that to you.

Not so subtle tapping up involved in his comments.
 

yido_number1

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Who cares what other managers think or say about us. The only manager I am bothered about is Mauricio Pochettino and what he thinks. As long as he is happy with what he is working with and on the same page as Levy then we will be alright. No other manager in this league can achieve what Poch has on the budget he has. Can't wait for him to lead us out in the new stadium!
 

Roynie

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With the exception of including Liverpool (with ManU, ManC, Arsenal and Chelsea) in his initial statement about it being less of a "tragedy" if we don't win the league, qualify for CL or exit CL early, than it is for those teams (baring in mind Liverpool have been way behind us most of the last few years) he is pretty much just being honest. A club's expectation levels will be commensurate with their wage bill (and to a secondary degree, transfer budget).

It's lovely for the richest four clubs to be able to spend what they spend and pay the astronomical wages that they do, but with that comes massive expectation. For Arsenal to finish outside the top 4 is a tragedy for their model, if they do it a couple more times it will be a catastrophe. For us, with a wage bill that isn't dependent or modelled on regular CL football or gigantic commercial revenues we aren't going to implode if we don't get CL football three years running and anything above 6th is over achieving on our wage structure.

Even for Liverpool, it is slightly more of a tragedy than it is for us because they do have a higher wage bill than us.

The biggest tragedy, for them, would be if we were to win the league, without spending the amounts of money they have. It would be nothing short of amazing and should put the Arse-anal, Mans clubs and Chelscum Boards into a real meltdown. ...... If only! :)
 

worcestersauce

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That is how I understood his comments, though I do also agree that there is an amount of mind games involved as well. He's highlighted Kane and, reading between the lines, it's almost like he's saying to Kane look at us, we EXPECT to be in CL every year whereas your current club do not. You are the best striker in the World, you should be in the CL every year and we can give that to you.

Not so subtle tapping up involved in his comments.
But funnily enough he seems not to realise that the very top is exactly where Poch and his players expect to reach.
 
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