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WorcesterTHFC

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What with the Dier new deal and now Lenglet possibly signing on the cheap seems like Levy is getting in quick before the new manager can say no and doesn't need to sign a top more expensive option.
I can just imagine a prospective manager in an interview with Levy:
"You've just given Dier a new deal and you've bought Lenglet. You're kidding me, right?" End of interview.

I hope Levy doesn't think such players will help the club achieve his beloved CL spot.
 
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Neon_Knight_

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The way I see it, is he better than Sanchez ?(yes), is he better than Tanganga? (currently yes), is he better than Dier? (in my opinion yes).

For that price we should be bringing him in and replacing the above players
Is he better than Davies on the left of a back three? (no)
Is he better than Davies on the left of a back two? (yes)
Is he better than every other LCB option in our squad? (yes)

If we're going to persist with a back three under the new manager, we should sign a new starting LCB and probably keep Davies over Lenglet as our back-up LCB.

If we're going to play with a back four under the new manager, we should sign a new starting LCB and probably keep both Davies (LB cover) and Lenglet (LCB cover).
 

spursville

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What with the Dier new deal and now Lenglet possibly signing on the cheap seems like Levy is getting in quick before the new manager can say no and doesn't need to sign a top more expensive option.
If I was the new manager I'd just send deadwood to train with a lower/youth squad and freeze them out. I'm surprised that previous managers haven't done this.
 

Jamturk

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He's starting to win me over in recent games, maybe he just needed time to settle in. I couldn't have appreciated him more than after he went off on Saturday and we all know what happened after that.
 

Locotoro

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If I was the new manager I'd just send deadwood to train with a lower/youth squad and freeze them out. I'm surprised that previous managers haven't done this.
Because the squad would get you fired in a day.
Sorry but this isn't fm where you can transfer list and demote and that's enough to get bids and players gone.
 

Oh Teddy Teddy

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Sign him as a squad upgrade over Sanchez, absolutely. Think we're all in agreement that we'd still need at least two more quality CBs though.
 

Impspur1

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Sign him as a squad upgrade over Sanchez, absolutely. Think we're all in agreement that we'd still need at least two more quality CBs though.
Yep, as the ball playing back up to a first choice CB no issues with signing him for money mentioned.
 

spursville

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Because the squad would get you fired in a day.
Sorry but this isn't fm where you can transfer list and demote and that's enough to get bids and players gone.
I seem to recall Poch did quite well at freezing a few players out and plenty of other managers at other big clubs have done the same.
 

Locotoro

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I seem to recall Poch did quite well at freezing a few players out and plenty of other managers at other big clubs have done the same.
I think you're misremembering the situation, buddy.
Poch froze out the players after a rift in the squad after that game against Stoke. He got rid of a number of senior players Kaboul, Adebayor and Capoue (apparently Lennon too) that blamed the younger players for lack of respect and that their seniority had earned them starting roles. After hearing that Poch sided with Kane, Lloris and other younger players and the players were hence forth exiled.

My point? Poch had new fresh blood to turn to already in the squad. He had Bentaleb, Mason, Kane, Dier and Townsend all ready to step up into the squad to start his revolution.

Any new manager that comes in now will have to freeze out almost all the CBs (4 not including Romero), Perisic, GLC, Ndombele, one of Sessegnon/Reguilon, one of Spence/Royal, Winks and Rodon. That's an entire 11 first team players that are Deadwood not including any players that can be replaced like Lloris and Forster.

That's one hell of an ask to put 11/13 players in the reserves and watch their values sink and their agents kick off. What a start that would be for any manager.
 

spursville

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I think you're misremembering the situation, buddy.
Poch froze out the players after a rift in the squad after that game against Stoke. He got rid of a number of senior players Kaboul, Adebayor and Capoue (apparently Lennon too) that blamed the younger players for lack of respect and that their seniority had earned them starting roles. After hearing that Poch sided with Kane, Lloris and other younger players and the players were hence forth exiled.

My point? Poch had new fresh blood to turn to already in the squad. He had Bentaleb, Mason, Kane, Dier and Townsend all ready to step up into the squad to start his revolution.

Any new manager that comes in now will have to freeze out almost all the CBs (4 not including Romero), Perisic, GLC, Ndombele, one of Sessegnon/Reguilon, one of Spence/Royal, Winks and Rodon. That's an entire 11 first team players that are Deadwood not including any players that can be replaced like Lloris and Forster.

That's one hell of an ask to put 11/13 players in the reserves and watch their values sink and their agents kick off. What a start that would be for any manager.
Has to be done though perhaps. What else would you suggest? All or nearly all the players you've listed (plus a few more I would suggest) are not of the required standard. They've seen off quite a few managers now.
 

Locotoro

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Has to be done though perhaps. What else would you suggest? All or nearly all the players you've listed (plus a few more I would suggest) are not of the required standard. They've seen off quite a few managers now.
Yes they are not required standard but you can't drop them out I to the reserves unless they start to be disruptive otherwise the others players will also kick off because they won't appreciate their team mates being treated that way.

The other way is by bringing in the replacements and phasing those players out gradually. Once they realise their chances of playing are limited because there are better players ahead they will choose to leave without fuss.

Any manager who comes in bombs out half the squad will have his head on a plate by the next morning.
 

spursville

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Yes they are not required standard but you can't drop them out I to the reserves unless they start to be disruptive otherwise the others players will also kick off because they won't appreciate their team mates being treated that way.

The other way is by bringing in the replacements and phasing those players out gradually. Once they realise their chances of playing are limited because there are better players ahead they will choose to leave without fuss.

Any manager who comes in bombs out half the squad will have his head on a plate by the next morning.
Good post. OK so I guess your point is that we should have been gradually stripping the squad over the last five years or so but that hasn't been done. I guess the hierarchy at Spurs as well as previous managers are at fault. But which top quality young project manager will want to come and work with that squad?
 

Locotoro

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Good post. OK so I guess your point is that we should have been gradually stripping the squad over the last five years or so but that hasn't been done. I guess the hierarchy at Spurs as well as previous managers are at fault. But which top quality young project manager will want to come and work with that squad?
Yes, that's exactly what we should have been doing.
To answer your question over which manager? I don't know. For me the important thing is a manager should want to be here. The community and connection we got during peak Poch was better than anything that has come after. A team that played for the coach and a coach that wasn't looking for his next ego boost but someone that genuinely wanted to be here and that the players stood behind.
I can't think of who that is because for me it's too soon for Poch to come back
 
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