Defoe - I want to stay

[Dougal]

people saying Defoe hasnt impressed when he has come on as a sub, but has had a good few games where alot of people have praised him for the work he had done. Just pointing it out and when he could have come in and had his chance. That was the reason why i didn't origanly say Berbatov because it would have been Bent wh would have come in for him as the Keane/Defoe partnership isn't our best combo.

You just seem intent on giving Defoe his chance and a run of games in the side which is unfair on Keane as he has done enough already to establish himself as first choice. Both have been at the club for years, both have been given opportunities. Keane edges it.

 

[The Apprentice]

Keane is shit.

Defoe should start every game.

 

[chrissivad]

You just seem intent on giving Defoe his chance and a run of games in the side which is unfair on Keane as he has done enough already to establish himself as first choice. Both have been at the club for years, both have been given opportunities. Keane edges it.

er, no. Im quite happy for Keane to start just perfer him as high up as possible. even have him in my fantasy football team :wink:

Keane has shown what he can do, but how can you establish yourself in a team when he hasn't started under Ramos. He must piss Ramos off in traing or something :shrug:

This is the problem i have with people coming in saying Defoe should sign with what he has said. I just dont see why he should sign to find he will be 4th choice for the rest of the season and maybe next season depending on what happeds re: Berbatov.

I think Defoe is heading for the Door, and will be pushed before walking out. Its a shame becasue he will do well at some of the mid-table clubs.

 

[Dougal]

Keane is shit.

Defoe should start every game.

:lol: You and your controversial little posts :clap:

 

[Dougal]

er, no. Im quite happy for Keane to start just perfer him as high up as possible. even have him in my fantasy football team :wink:

Keane has shown what he can do, but how can you establish yourself in a team when he hasn't started under Ramos. He must piss Ramos off in traing or something :shrug:

This is the problem i have with people coming in saying Defoe should sign with what he has said. I just dont see why he should sign to find he will be 4th choice for the rest of the season and maybe next season depending on what happeds re: Berbatov.

I think Defoe is heading for the Door, and will be pushed before walking out. Its a shame becasue he will do well at some of the mid-table clubs.

Ramos came in to fix a few things, if it ain’t broken don’t fix it. Why would he drop the top scorer? And didn’t he start Defoe against Boro? It’s not like he is ignoring him.

 

[chrissivad]

Ramos came in to fix a few things, if it ain’t broken don’t fix it. Why would he drop the top scorer? And didn’t he start Defoe against Boro? It’s not like he is ignoring him.

He did, along with Bent. Thats one partnership i realy dont think will work, and would rather have Keane and Defoe. Means we have no link between midfeild and Strikers.

And i dont think i have said we should drop Keane.

 

[Dougal]

He did, along with Bent. Thats one partnership i realy dont think will work, and would rather have Keane and Defoe. Means we have no link between midfeild and Strikers.

And i dont think i have said we should drop Keane.

So you think Defoe should start, as should Keane, plus one other from Berba/Bent?

 

[chrissivad]

So you think Defoe should start, as should Keane, plus one other from Berba/Bent?

For the next two league games Keane cant start, so its down to Bent or Defoe. Bent hasnt looked like he has settled yet so i would start Defoe with Berbatov. See how he does, if he does realy well then its a close call who he playes, if not its back to Keane.

 

[Dougal]

For the next two league games Keane cant start, so its down to Bent or Defoe. Bent hasnt looked like he has settled yet so i would start Defoe with Berbatov. See how he does, if he does realy well then its a close call who he playes, if not its back to Keane.

I agree with that :shrug:

 

[jimbo]

Defoe should definitely start in the absence of Keane, in many ways Defoe has looked like he would be the most useful partner for Keane at the moment. It's just a pity he's only 5"7' and we can't keep the ball on the floor.

 

[Yid-ol]

I see where you coming from Yid-ol, but with Keane and Berbatov (and possibly even Bent too) doing better than him, and him not justifying being picked abover them, then he has no case with which to push for guaranteed first-team football.

So he needs to decide whether being at a club he loves is more important, or whether being number one choice up front is.

Keane has really been the only player who has been playing well game after game, did have a slow start but then so did all of our players :lol: Berabtov is leagues above Defoe, but also has been looking kidna shit in matches too, its a risk we take playing him, most of the times it pays off, but we get the few i dont seem to care matches from him as well, but both should easly still be infround of Defoe in the pecking rder to start

bent on the other hand has done even less than Defoe, and in Keane's suspension and Bent not doing much last game, if Defoe really doesnt get a crack at first team then he never will, i think if he doesnt get the shot here he might then be more tiped to leaving the club, even if he does say he likes it here (true or not)

 

[DC_Boy]

i'm all for JD starting against Pompey, he deserves a chance and good luck to him -

but re his height (and indeed his strength) - it is a factor that goes against him - it's no good trying to wish it away - spurs do,correctly IMO, play a lot of long balls which will be in the air - it is an efficient way of playing in the prem - many teams do it - and Spurs under Ramos have done this just like they did under Jol - therefore JD will struggle with this and RK & JD are effectively a no-no - this doesn't mean we're a 'long ball team' but it does form a considerable part in our tactics from open play and indeed set pieces

Now Spurs may change to a far more on the ground style but until they do - and I don't see it this season - it will always be tempting to play someone like Bent who is pretty good in the air (won a fair few headers v City) and also has the strenght and pace over distance to physically challenge for fight balls on the floor or in the air and to run the channels

 

[justfookinhitit]

I like Defoe, but there's plenty of people on here that are saying he needs to be given a chance. Didn't he have that last season when Keane injured his ankle ???

How many chances does he need to be given ??????

 

[General Levy]

I think that we should all be ready for the fact that Berbatov will most probably be leaving in the summer...

A wee bit off topic, but that is why Bent was purchased; as a contingency plan for when the inevitable happens.

 

[Yid-ol]

I like Defoe, but there's plenty of people on here that are saying he needs to be given a chance. Didn't he have that last season when Keane injured his ankle ???

How many chances does he need to be given ??????

didnt he do well in that time? him and berbatov scored afew goals between them if i remember right

 

[thfcsteff]

He did, along with Bent. Thats one partnership i realy dont think will work, and would rather have Keane and Defoe. Means we have no link between midfeild and Strikers.

And i dont think i have said we should drop Keane.

It nearly produced a 2-0 half-time lead...JD set up Benty who rolled it an inch past the far upright, very unlucky, lightning move...JJ can be that link as long as the holding player alongside him actually holds!!!!!

 

[Legend10]

If you remove penalties statistically it is Bent that is our most likely scorer in the premiership not Keane.

it takes Keane nearly an hours worth of play longer than Bent to hit the net from open play and Keane if I am correct is only a matter of minutes more productive than Defoe.

Given that neither Bent or Defoe have had any opportunity to find any sort of rhythm I think both have done pretty well.

 

[ConfusedOnlooker]

If you remove penalties statistically it is Bent that is our most likely scorer in the premiership not Keane.

Yeah! And if you remove goals scored by the player's right foot then statistically Roberto Carlos was a bigger threat from free kicks than David Beckham.

What a fucking stupid statement. One that, in one form or another, is posted all too often on this site by numerous spacktards. Ask Jermain Defoe how meaningful penalties are after he missed one against West Ham.

 

[tooey]

Yeah! And if you remove goals scored by the player's right foot then statistically Roberto Carlos was a bigger threat from free kicks than David Beckham.

What a fucking stupid statement. One that, in one form or another, is posted all too often on this site by numerous spacktards. Ask Jermain Defoe how meaningful penalties are after he missed one against West Ham.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

MY new favorite word

 

[Legend10]

Yeah! And if you remove goals scored by the player's right foot then statistically Roberto Carlos was a bigger threat from free kicks than David Beckham.

What a fucking stupid statement. One that, in one form or another, is posted all too often on this site by numerous spacktards. Ask Jermain Defoe how meaningful penalties are after he missed one against West Ham.

Who said that penalties were not meaningful?

It is however accepted by most people that it's more difficult to score from open play than it is to score from a penalty and most people would accept when comparing goal scoring ratios that it is reasonable to remove penalties from the mix.

If Berbs took the pens it's pretty likely that both he and Keane would have 5 league goals a piece and not the 8-2 that it currently is.

From open play, at the moment Bent needs less prem minutes than any of our other strikers to find the net.

As for your spacktard comment, if you are abusing or insulting people that are physically and or mentally disadvantaged then I'll let you decide what sort of person you are.