did the club blunder with treatment/sale of defoe

[SelbYido]

Weren't they shown together in a box at the Pompey game.

On-topic, In both of MJ's first two seasons Defoe was first choice and everyone was saying Keane would leave, both times Defoe lost form, lost his place and couldn't get it back because of the form of others.

I was seen with a member of the Sisters of Mercy the other week - doesn't make me Andrew Eldritch...:wink:

On Defoe, I think we were right to sell him. Its no surprise that he's banging them in for Pompey & I have little doubt the same would have happened if he'd gone to Villa, Man City or any decent PL team. The thing is that he was never likely to disrupt the Keane-Berba partnership & thus wouldn't sign a new contract. Fair enough, really. He didn't gripe or throw a strop but especially in the PC era (Post-C*mpbell), we needed commitment.

I also think we were right to stick with Bent over Defoe. Ok, not the most auspicious of starts for tha Bizzle but he's more versatile than JD & its good to see he's started to show some form in the last few games.

In short, I think it was the best deal for all concerned.

 

[Houdini]

He's gone and it is a shame, but as already commented on, Bent might just come good for us.........the same way JD has for Pompey!

 

[davros]

He's gone and it is a shame, but as already commented on, Bent might just come good for us.........the same way JD has for Pompey!

Bent has done ok so far for us. It's understandably very hard to break up the Keane/Berbatov partnership that is so productive. They've stayed fit this season so there hasn't been much use for 2 other strikers. Now that Bent is fit again and is getting goals, too, I don't think that the sale of Defoe was a bad move for anyone involved. He (probably) wouldn't have scored all his recent goals if he had stayed because he (probably) wouldn't have had the playing time.

 

[clint]

We signed Bent in the belief that Defoe was on his way last summer—that was rumoured, and Hughton let slip that that had been Plan A some time ago. There was never any question of selling Bent.

I just don't get this boohooing over paw lickle Jermain. He was pretty ho-hum for two-and-a-half seasons and spent a lot of 2005-2006 doing Lord Lucan impersonations. It took getting left out of the England squad to buck his ideas up, but even last season he took about ten shots for every goal and blew a perfect chance to establish himself as first choice alongside Berbatov. Even after that we still had some idiots hoping Keane would pick up an injury so Defoe could get another chance. Pure genius.

Frankly, I don't believe any of this so-called commitment and loving it at Spurs. He saw us as a way to an England place.

you talk so much crap about defoe, it's unbelievable..


yh course he did a few lucan impersonations, but most of the time the form went was because there was no SUPPLY.


NO SERVICE. mainly because keane would usually not be on the pitch at the same time.. and the rest of the midfield wasnt quite up to scratch in a creative sense. pretty much like now , except now we have BERBATOV, and hudd is starting to get into the team.




bad, bad bit of business by spurs, i think it would have been worth ten million to have him in the squad for another year, bent just doesn't have as sharp a striking instinct..


what must berbatov be thinking!? signing bent for 16 mills? then selling defoe for ten mill??


what a joke.

 

[guy]

He was never going to make it at Spurs because he wasn't good enough. Loving Spurs? My arse. His commitment was to himself and his England 'career', which Nasty Mr Jol and Nasty Mr Eriksson ruined. Nothing to do with Defoe being largely a waste of space through 2005-2006, and disappearing completely when Eriksson came to see him at the Lane while Barney looked as if he was the one playing his nuts off for an England place.

Any other player who was a pisspoor as Defoe was that season would have got absolutely slaughtered on here. Instead, there was massive outrage that Eriksson left him out, not massive outrage that he'd fucked off in most of the games he'd appeared in. And then he started turning it on the following pre-season 'to prove a point'. To whom? Spurs, or Eriksson. Shame he didn't turn it on for the club that was paying his wages, really.

I couldn't give a toss about him.

I said keane and berba are better players, theres no doubting that. I just dont think people should be attacking his integrity. He conducted himself perfectly well on/off the field, he just wasnt good enough to dislodge keane

 

[Houdini]

Bent has done ok so far for us. It's understandably very hard to break up the Keane/Berbatov partnership that is so productive. They've stayed fit this season so there hasn't been much use for 2 other strikers. Now that Bent is fit again and is getting goals, too, I don't think that the sale of Defoe was a bad move for anyone involved. He (probably) wouldn't have scored all his recent goals if he had stayed because he (probably) wouldn't have had the playing time.

Yeah, i agree, a lot of supporters are saying we made a big mistake letting him go, but as you say he would not (probably) be scoring goals because he wouldn't be getting any, (probably), playing time, so maybe it was for the best all round.
It certainly seems the best for him, anyway!

 

[Liquidator]

Yeah maybe your right but goals win games (i know SOMEONE needs to get the assist's but you see my point?)

Which is precisely why assists are valuable.

Remember, it is hardly a guaranteed that Defoe will outscore Keane* so the assists tally becomes crucial.

*If he did his ass would have a whole lot less splinters.

 

[AllSeeingEye]

I liked Defoe, even though he was a Goon supporter.

He scored some wonderful goals too.

I think he did get a fair crack of the whip under Jol, but soon after the resurgence of Keane and Berbs he was looking disinterested - and the talk finally got to him.

Redknapp prob'ly tapped him months before and offered him the moon on a stick.

In fact I'd be willing to say that 'Arry prob'ly told him that he would sell Benjani to make way for him.

Instantly a breath of fresh air for JD + a feeling of being top of the world and wanted = goals.

Yes, I agree that he was a confidence man, and that's why he dried up at Spurs - because all the flavour was on Berb and Keane.

Having seen this and the non-signing of new contract is enough to part with him IMO.

I wish him all the best at Pompey, I hope he continues to score, but it won't matter anymore because we don't need his goals.

We need a defence and midfield that can make goals without conceding them!

So in answer to this thread...........No.

 

[drjimmy]

Opinions like "this player should stay", or "this player should go" has been the case, since God was a boy and won't change anytime soon.

As far as popular rumour goes, Defoe had a contract on the table for some 3 months and delayed signing it as there were no 'guarantees' about first-team football. Spurs can't offer that, if you are looking to improve the squad and get any number of players to 'gel'.

In the current game, there can be very few such guarantees and as such, players have to accept that. If they can't/won't, then it's places like Portsmough/Wigan/Boro' for the likes of them.

Yes, of course Defoe will score goals, but it's the wider aspect that a club needs to consider when signing or re-signing players.

 

[TheChosenOne]

It's nice to see this thread still alive ands kicking, I stand by my comments about JD+money+committment.

His other flaw was chasing brainless wannabee wags while pretending to be a fully committed Christian, but thats another story eh ?

 

[drjimmy]

His other flaw was chasing brainless wannabee wags while pretending to be a fully committed Christian, but thats another story eh ?

Maybe that was just his Sunday job........... :wink:

 

[SpurSince57]

you talk so much crap about defoe, it's unbelievable..

yh course he did a few lucan impersonations, but most of the time the form went was because there was no SUPPLY.

NO SERVICE. mainly because keane would usually not be on the pitch at the same time.. and the rest of the midfield wasnt quite up to scratch in a creative sense. pretty much like now , except now we have BERBATOV, and hudd is starting to get into the team.

bad, bad bit of business by spurs, i think it would have been worth ten million to have him in the squad for another year, bent just doesn't have as sharp a striking instinct..

what must berbatov be thinking!? signing bent for 16 mills? then selling defoe for ten mill??

what a joke.

Ah, a founder member of the JDFC, I assume.

He looked as if he couldn't be fucked for most of 2005-2006 and still got plenty of shots in. Unfortunately he didn't make too many of them count. Same last season, except he put some effort in. When they were on target they were usually straight at the keeper. Head-down runs, shift 'n' shoot, never mind unmarked team-mates screaming for the ball an easy pass away. If he'd scored as often on the pitch as he did in the typing pool we'd have been laughing.

bent just doesn't have as sharp a striking instinct.. :rofl:

Is this a fact? Or just your opinion masquerading as fact?