Dispelling a Myth

[spursphil]

If i remember rightly Bale cost £7m, and i'm assuming that fee was paid in instalments. Southampton were in big financial trouble and dropped the final fee down to £5m if we could pay up the balance in cash pronto!

Either way he was a far better buy than Walnut at £12m.

 

[Blake Griffin]

don't kwow where people have got this idea that distin/heitinga/saha were on frees .... they cost around £15m between them.

 

[StartingPrice]

don't kwow where people have got this idea that distin/heitinga/saha were on frees .... they cost around £15m between them.

I was the primary exponent of that theory...and I have explained, twice, where I got it from...but, just for you, Griff omg I will do so again:

What I remember is that Everton sold Lescott for (for £24 million, I think), and replaced him with Distin and Hetinga and I thought "Good fecking whealer-dealing, Moyesy. Now, it is highly probable that it being a memory, and sometimes memories get distorted, that Distin, for example, may have been available on a free in the next transfer window, so went cheap, but that I just had a vague memory of the free nbit of it all. I never said it was cast in stone, I asked, because, like I said, I had a memory about them being cheap, a good deal, Everton making a profit and something about a free. No biggie Eek

SP dons best Scouse curly wig, best Scouse bushy fake moustache and matching hideously gaudy Scouse shell-suit: "Errrrrrrr....errrrrrrr......calm down, calm down."

I never mentioned Saha (or his sister, Sahara) :wink:

 

[sloth]

don't kwow where people have got this idea that distin/heitinga/saha were on frees .... they cost around £15m between them.

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/2006-2011.html

 

[Blake Griffin]

well that's wrong. even on everton's site it says an undisclosed fee(which at the time was rumoured to be around £5m)

http://www.evertonfc.com/player-profile/louis-saha

 

[StartingPrice]

well that's wrong. even on everton's site it says an undisclosed fee(which at the time was rumoured to be around £5m)

http://www.evertonfc.com/player-profile/louis-saha

How can a question be wrong :shrug:
I didn't say he was free, I asked if he was free...and I have explained to you how I could have got confused into thinking it might be the case.

It wasn't exactly the important detail - that was that Everton made a very impress profit out of replacing Lescott with Heitinga and Distin.

 

[yiddodiddodo]

By contrast the other 2 teams playing last night liverpools starting 11 106m City 163m

 

[Blake Griffin]

How can a question be wrong :shrug:
I didn't say he was free, I asked if he was free...and I have explained to you how I could have got confused into thinking it might be the case.

It wasn't exactly the important detail - that was that Everton made a very impress profit out of replacing Lescott with Heitinga and Distin.

i was replying to sloth.

 

[StartingPrice]

i wasn't replying to you ...

:snooty:

I assumed you were because you were responding to someone who got something wrong...and that's usually me

Jaysus...don't tell sloith-Boy that some of his stats and figures might be wrong...his head may explode Eek

 

[thfcsteff]

Moyes Said about how much we have spent in comparison with them, however if you just look at the teams that started last night then.

Spurs
Friedel - Free
Walker - 4.5
Dawson - 4
Kaboul 6.5
BAE - 3.5
Lennon -1
Livermore - Free
Modric - 16.5
Bale - 7
VDV 8
Ade - Loan

Total 51m

Everton
Howard - 3
Neville 3.5+
Heitinga - 6.2
Distan - 5
Baines - 6
Donavan - Loan
Bilyaletdinov - 8.9
Cahill - 1.5
Fellani - 15
Anichebe - Free
Saha - 5

Total 54.1m

Think we have spent more wisely thats all.

:clap:
Always winds me up when I hear how much we've 'spent'...we've also had a lot of money in...people forget the season we lost our strike force for fifty-three million pounds...christ that hurt...but not anymore bitches!!!!!!! Hargh hargh!

 

[kaz Hirai]

our starting 11 maybe, but we have a few players who cost quite a bit of money who are drifting in the abyss or just not getting many games, Everton just dont have that kind of money to be able to compete and have a bunch of expensive players sit on the bench or not even get a seat

JJ 7m
Bentley 15m
Pav 14m
Defoe 15.8m (though pompy owed us some kinda of money still)
Gio 3m i think without the rising fee, as he probably hasnt met it
bassong 8m
gomes 7.8m
corluka 5.5m
naughton 4.5m

80.6 millon

i'm sure we balance the books in the end but thats alot of sterling on alot of players who barely play, Everton just can't compete with our financial might, so moyes does have a point imo

 

[SpainSpur85]

If i remember rightly Bale cost £7m, and i'm assuming that fee was paid in instalments. Southampton were in big financial trouble and dropped the final fee down to £5m if we could pay up the balance in cash pronto!

Either way he was a far better buy than Walnut at £12m.

I thought they were both 5 million up front and 7 on bonus clauses deals, but they changed the bonus parts for 2 million in cash. So both were 7 in the end, but if you put them both up for auction tomorrow, Bale would probably be worth double Walcott.

 

[Blake Griffin]

bale 7 walcott 9.

 

[Leo]

I find it hard to feel sorry for Moyes when it appears he will spend what little money he does have on Darren Gibson?

 

[Kendall]

I think you'll actually find that Walker was close to 3m. The Kyles were 8m, but Naughton was the more expensive of the two.

 

[Mullers]

I thought Bassong was 12 million.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

I thought Bassong was 12 million.

You thought incredibly wrong then. :lol:

 

[Dubwise]

The way our squad is developing really makes me wish we had kept Commoli and the DOF football system

We seemed to have really only unearthed two gems in the last few years and thats Sandro and Walker

Players like Bale, Huddlestone, BAE, Modric, Lennon, Dawson, Kaboul have all been incredibly well scouted, not sure if they were all Commoli purchases but they were all purchased around the same era (Lennon seemed obvious though, had already done well in a game or two with leeds and leeds were virtually bankrupt)

I honestly think we have an absoloute quality player in the making and hopefully a replacement to King and that's Caulker, he looks experienced beyond his age and has that same style of defending as King (does not seem to physically hassle the player and reads their movement as opposed to muscling off the ball )

Now that i think about it (sorry this post has been a progression of thought) our youth system seems to be much more productive than in recent years

Levy your a genious! Made the investment in quality young players that are now experienced PL stars, seems to have built a decent youth system and now have the foundations where we can slowly evolve the squad, making purchases for the future, making immediate impact signings or whatever it is we need to tweak an already existing outstanding squad

Its a Friday evening, i am slightly drunk on wine and its just a great feeling to be a spurs fan!


My apologies, this post is off topic, i was just looking at the value of our starting 11 and got rather happy and digressed further from there as i am prone to do, instead f editing i should possibly have just deleted

Please delete post if it is against the guidelines of any kind

 

[StartingPrice]

The way our squad is developing really makes me wish we had kept Commoli and the DOF football system

We seemed to have really only unearthed two gems in the last few years and thats Sandro and Walker

Players like Bale, Huddlestone, BAE, Modric, Lennon, Dawson, Kaboul have all been incredibly well scouted, not sure if they were all Commoli purchases but they were all purchased around the same era (Lennon seemed obvious though, had already done well in a game or two with leeds and leeds were virtually bankrupt)

I honestly think we have an absoloute quality player in the making and hopefully a replacement to King and that's Caulker, he looks experienced beyond his age and has that same style of defending as King (does not seem to physically hassle the player and reads their movement as opposed to muscling off the ball )

Now that i think about it (sorry this post has been a progression of thought) our youth system seems to be much more productive than in recent years

Levy your a genious! Made the investment in quality young players that are now experienced PL stars, seems to have built a decent youth system and now have the foundations where we can slowly evolve the squad, making purchases for the future, making immediate impact signings or whatever it is we need to tweak an already existing outstanding squad

Its a Friday evening, i am slightly drunk on wine and its just a great feeling to be a spurs fan!


My apologies, this post is off topic, i was just looking at the value of our starting 11 and got rather happy and digressed further from there as i am prone to do, instead f editing i should possibly have just deleted

Please delete post if it is against the guidelines of any kind

THudd, Lennon and Dawson were not Comolli fids.

I was quite outspoken, when Comolli was sacked, in saying he had built the basis of a very good squad.
Unfortunately, there is a very big difference between the basis of a very good squad and a very good squad. He seemed congenitally incapable of identifying a midfield enforcer, or, of uderstanding the requirement of that. He never seemed to get the right spread of youth and experience, of sufficient quality.

But, most importantly, he wasn't sacked for his player purchasing record. He was sacked becuase it was on his insistence that BMJ was sacked and Ramos was hired. Levy made it clear at the time that Comolli stood-or-fell by the success or failure of that switch. And he stated when Ramos and Comolli were removed that Comolli was going for this reason.

Afaiac, he overstepped his purview in doing that. I would have been happy for him to have stayed as some kind of Uber-Scout, with responsibility for youth development. But I don't think he would have been happy with that (it would have meant a reduction in his status), and, as said, he had to go because he insisted on the Ramos deal on the understandnig that his neck was on the line.

The bottom line is that he got us players like Bale, Modric and BAE - but would he have been capable of filling the team out with Brad Friedel, Immanuel Adebayor and Scotty Parker :shrug: I don't think he would. I don't view his tenure as negatively as some, but he rightly went when he did, and we have benefitted from the change in direction of having someone canny like Redknapp rounding the squad off.

 

[Dubwise]

THudd, Lennon and Dawson were not Comolli fids.

I was quite outspoken, when Comolli was sacked, in saying he had built the basis of a very good squad.
Unfortunately, there is a very big difference between the basis of a very good squad and a very good squad. He seemed congenitally incapable of identifying a midfield enforcer, or, of uderstanding the requirement of that. He never seemed to get the right spread of youth and experience, of sufficient quality.

But, most importantly, he wasn't sacked for his player purchasing record. He was sacked becuase it was on his insistence that BMJ was sacked and Ramos was hired. Levy made it clear at the time that Comolli stood-or-fell by the success or failure of that switch. And he stated when Ramos and Comolli were removed that Comolli was going for this reason.

Afaiac, he overstepped his purview in doing that. I would have been happy for him to have stayed as some kind of Uber-Scout, with responsibility for youth development. But I don't think he would have been happy with that (it would have meant a reduction in his status), and, as said, he had to go because he insisted on the Ramos deal on the understandnig that his neck was on the line.

The bottom line is that he got us players like Bale, Modric and BAE - but would he have been capable of filling the team out with Brad Friedel, Immanuel Adebayor and Scotty Parker :shrug: I don't think he would. I don't view his tenure as negatively as some, but he rightly went when he did, and we have benefitted from the change in direction of having someone canny like Redknapp rounding the squad off.

I was happy when Commoli left, but now appreciate what he did, am i right in thinking he serves the same role at Liverpool? If so i am hoping he makes more Zokora type signings than Modric