Do they care about playing for Spurs?

[PLTuck]

Not a scapegoat. Just making the point i dont think he is good enough......

The scapegoat comment wasn't directed at you in particular. It just seems to be a common theme this season.

You forgot Jenas, Zokora, the Hudd, Kaboul, Prince Bong and Dawson.

I do love the nickname you've given KPB. :rofl:

 

[TheChosenOne]

You forgot Jenas, Zokora, the Hudd, Kaboul, Prince Bong and Dawson.

... and YP

 

[Defsta]

Groundsman, Tea-Lady and Chris Hughton :shrug:

 

[SpurSince57]

I'm a bit surprised about the O'Hara bashing. In Eindhoven us fans were singing his name for large parts of the game, so i think the majority do rate him. He is young and its his first season in the big time, so inconsistency is always going to occur. I hope he is in the squad next season

I'm not. He hasn't turned into Cristiano Ronaldo so he must be crap. Stands to reason, doesn't it?

I'll be astounded if he isn't.

 

[DC_Boy]

it's a good question BOF - probably most are here to do a good job, for ridiculously good wages -

it's one of the many problems prem managers have - especially for the 'big/bigger' clubs - how do you motivate millionaires?

most players give their dedication (such as it is at times) to their careers, rather than a particular club -

if man u or barcelona come calling and spurs 'won't stand in their way, even thugh they'd like to keep them' - how many players would say no I'd rather stay at the club I love (eg spurs)

 

[muffwah]

I can think of a couple of players who definitely don't care about playing for us, they used to hang around on the right side of the pitch....

 

[AngerManagement]

Wheter or not a players love the club is one thing, I would say most footballers these day care more about themselves (as it is their career) unless they were boyhood fans or really have a great time at a club (usually winning things).

However you would think in a time like we have a Spurs now, where players are supposedly playing for their right to stay with us next year, even players who do not 'love' the club would be busting a gut on the field to ensure their career at the club.

In all honesty there are not too many players at the club who would leave us now and go to a higher/bigger club in footballing terms. Berbatove aside I feel that almost any other of the squad memebers who's places are less then secure would be moving downwards in the overally scheme of things (sideways at best).

So I guess im suggesting the question should be 'Do they have the hungry and desire to succeed or are they happy being rich footballers who achieve little to nothing?' rarther then Do they care about playing for us.

I think the curse of modern day football ever since Liverpools spice boys has been players who are happy with the fame and fortune that the football lifestyle brings who ultimatley wont give that little extra on a consistant basis because it doesnt mean enough to them.

If we have players like that in our squad then I think they should be moved on and replaced by players who are hungry to win and hungry to do so everytime they step on the pitch (with the required quality too of course)

 

[stemark44]

I think its mostly down to respect or lack of it for the manager and I think thats the way Ramos looks at it too,thats why he is so angry with them.If they don't show him respect by busting their balls no matter what the opposition is,then they will be shown the front gate sharpish!

 

[van_Pommel]

Spot on AngerManagement.

If wages were based more on success then we may not have this problem. But then again, its not just footballers. Youngsters in general are lazy these days, and have little respect for anybody let alone themselves or their careers.

 

[WHITEHART80]

I've had this conversation with my brother about my son. He's a toddler, but we were wondering how we'd feel if in 10 years or so the goons came along and wanted to sign him up. Would we tell them to feck off in the hope Spurs came along for him, or would we reluctantly let him take the opportunity the goons provide? It is a tough one, real head over heart time, but we would very very reluctantly let him sign up to the goons on the understanding that he remains a yid through and through.

My 12 year old cousin was approached by the Arse, and my uncle refussed to let him go, and that was just to train with them with a view to playing for their youth setup.

He ended up at Charlton.

 

[ever]

i think robbo generally loves the club

 

[Kendall]

Actually he and his family are all Spurs fans and always have been, but the filth were in for him and we weren't.

No, he and his whole family are Millwall, he said so in an interview about going there on loan.

 

[onthetwo]

wealthy though they may be i doubt whether many of them are bright enough to realise that if they dont cut it with us they will likely end up in the Championship fairly quickly on a fraction of the wages. And thinking about it, their advisers are incentivised for them to move every few seasons so its not a real surprise that these players dont respond as one might think to the idea of playing for their Spurs futures.

 

[DC_Boy]

And thinking about it, their advisers are incentivised for them to move every few seasons so its not a real surprise that these players dont respond as one might think to the idea of playing for their Spurs futures.

that is a very good point -clearly Berbatov's agent for example is on the biggest pay day of his life (I assume) if he engineers a mega money move this summer-

ditto many agents- there's a problem that is really difficult to resolve-

 

[eddiebailey]

It is always going to be more difficult to motivate yourself for a game that has no significance. It is the fag end of the season, players are mentally tired, possibly overtrained, and with nothing much left to play for. (By now most of them more or less know where they stand with Ramos.)

I do not think it is a case of consciously not caring, just a shortfall in adrenalin.

 

[wojch]

Born in London and raised in Dartford and attended school at Horton Kirby Primary School. He and his family are avid supporters of Millwall F.C.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A30198945

end of story.


back to subject: I think that Keane, King and Malbranque are the only people that you would see kissing their badge...

 

[DogsOfWar]

It is always going to be more difficult to motivate yourself for a game that has no significance. It is the fag end of the season, players are mentally tired, possibly overtrained, and with nothing much left to play for. (By now most of them more or less know where they stand with Ramos.)

I do not think it is a case of consciously not caring, just a shortfall in adrenalin.

Totally agree.

After the high of the Carling cup I'm struggling to attach any significance to our league run in so I don't see that it would be any different for them.

We can moan about how much they are paid or the fact that we have all paid good money to watch them but the same applies to most of us a week or two before our summer holidays or Christmas, we just go through the motions.

It's not necessarily right but it's the way of the world.

 

[BorisTM]

Yep and one thing you cant argue with is that he just is nt very good. But thats another thread

He is great. Even the greates left on their own can't hold it against 2-3 all the time.

 

[BorisTM]

... and YP

YP was always played at the opposite end and side of the field.

 

[Bulletspur]

O'Hara - scapegoat number 6 for Season 07/08, the other five being Jol, Robbo, Bent, Lennon, Keane. :bang:

While I will agree with the others to a greater or lesser degree, I cannot say the same for Jol. Decisions and tactics were down to him. So while I didnt agree with the way he was replaced, Jol was the victim of circumstances created by himself.