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Do they care about playing for Spurs?

nidge

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While I will agree with the others to a greater or lesser degree, I cannot say the same for Jol. Decisions and tactics were down to him. So while I didnt agree with the way he was replaced, Jol was the victim of circumstances created by himself.

Yes he was a victim of his own success.
 

wojch

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No, you're thinking of Frank Lampard. Badge kisser extraordinaire.:wink:


Yeah, I know he's full of it but I think it would be nice to see our players do the same from time to time. I think it's just one of ways to show commitment to the Club.

The other one is to play on 200 percent of yourself... :grin:
I want to say "Keanooo"... Right? :wink:
 

PLTuck

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While I will agree with the others to a greater or lesser degree, I cannot say the same for Jol. Decisions and tactics were down to him. So while I didnt agree with the way he was replaced, Jol was the victim of circumstances created by himself.

The only difference is that Jol was the board's scapegoat, not so much the fans.
 

ultimateloner

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Our players are not professional because none of them have ever won anything significant. They are not proven on the highest level. I include King in this bunch. They don't understand that they don't play for enjoyment, but for victory.

If Davids was here this wouldn't happen. If we had a Roy Keane, Gallas etc - inspirational 'been there and done it' types, then you can't afford to slack.

Thats why I say our next purchase should be an experienced, respected, proven winner. Hopefully he could kick our lads up their backside in the dressing room.
 

guiltyparty

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You are right to be cynical but him and Terry do seem to have found their rightful home at that club .

Both would be off in a second if the club didn't meet their demands. Lampard has threatened it enough.

And I detest badge-kissing. Glad no one at Spurs does it, it's all a big con.
 

nowayjose

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Regardless of what club and what manager they play under most top-players hate losing. They are obviously very competitive, which in many cases is what has driven them to the premier league.
So I think they do care about winning matches. I can only compare with myself who is not really all that passionate, but i still hate losing. They are probably more competitive and have more incentive to care aswell.
 

SpurSince57

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Our players are not professional because none of them have ever won anything significant. They are not proven on the highest level. I include King in this bunch. They don't understand that they don't play for enjoyment, but for victory.<br />
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If Davids was here this wouldn't happen. If we had a Roy Keane, Gallas etc - inspirational 'been there and done it' types, then you can't afford to slack.<br />
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Thats why I say our next purchase should be an experienced, respected, proven winner. Hopefully he could kick our lads up their backside in the dressing room.

Christ almighty. :stupid:

Gallas… Yeah, truly inspirational. What an example that prick set the other week. :rofl:
 

HildoSpur

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I think some of players havent woken up to the fact that they really are playing for their futures at the club personally. Some of them are going to get a shock in the summer... or just dont really care since they will get raking in the cash whereever they end up playing..
 

AngerManagement

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I think some of players havent woken up to the fact that they really are playing for their futures at the club personally. Some of them are going to get a shock in the summer... or just dont really care since they will get raking in the cash whereever they end up playing..

Yes but most if not all of our players who the club may be thinking of moving on would only command interest from lower level teams, much like Ghaly and Derby.

If they are aware of the potential situation and really dont care about getting moved on then this shows they are only interested in the money, because surely no player should want to move down in their career and become involved in a releagtion battle.

Perhaps they would prefer to be a big fish in a small pond with similar wages and a nice signing on bonus to boot. If this is the case with any of our first team squad then we are better of replacing them.
 

Liquidator

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It's like the old Alf Ramsey saying:

It's not about picking the best players, it's about picking the best team. This means that fitting the system, and working for the team benefit, is worth more than simple ability.

This explains why a seemingly talented player like Defoe didn't fit in with the Spurs team ethic.
 

Flatters

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Our players are not professional because none of them have ever won anything significant. They are not proven on the highest level. I include King in this bunch. They don't understand that they don't play for enjoyment, but for victory.

If Davids was here this wouldn't happen. If we had a Roy Keane, Gallas etc - inspirational 'been there and done it' types, then you can't afford to slack.

Thats why I say our next purchase should be an experienced, respected, proven winner. Hopefully he could kick our lads up their backside in the dressing room.

:duh:
 

AngerManagement

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It's like the old Alf Ramsey saying:

It's not about picking the best players, it's about picking the best team. This means that fitting the system, and working for the team benefit, is worth more than simple ability.

This explains why a seemingly talented player like Defoe didn't fit in with the Spurs team ethic.

Good point, although instead of quoting sir Alf you may have made a stronger arguement if you had used SPursking and one of his 'its all about teambuilding' rants
 

bubble07

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why would they care? Do you really care where you work. The point we have to remember is that its just their job - Most people only do there job because they get paid

After they train for 2 hours do they really give a crap? We do because we love the club but they don't. The question you have to ask is how many would play for free? There the only ones that would really care about spurs
 

Stoof

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why would they care? Do you really care where you work. The point we have to remember is that its just their job - Most people only do there job because they get paid

After they train for 2 hours do they really give a crap? We do because we love the club but they don't. The question you have to ask is how many would play for free? There the only ones that would really care about spurs

I think making it seem like a 'job' distorts it slightly.

No-one would do their job, and by that I mean work in a particular sector, if they weren't paid. But I'd bet top money that footballers would play football if they weren't getting paid. They may not have particular loyalty to certain club, but they certainly want to pursue that 'sector', if you catch my meaning; footballers want to play football regardless.

That's why I think comparing it to our sort of employment doesn't quite match up.
 

AngerManagement

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why would they care? Do you really care where you work. The point we have to remember is that its just their job - Most people only do there job because they get paid

After they train for 2 hours do they really give a crap? We do because we love the club but they don't. The question you have to ask is how many would play for free? There the only ones that would really care about spurs

People who do a job they have passion for care about their job.
While the average person in an average office job or builder on a construction site may not care about their job and simply do it to get paid, people who end up doing a job that involves something they have always loved and have passion for will or should care about it.

I assume all premier league players started off playing football for free and for fun not for monetry incentive as such it was a passion and a hobby and not simply a job. Therefore I dont think it is correct analagy to compare their job with the average job in the working enviroment.

Certainly in days gone by players played largely for the love of the game and the clubs they represented, maybe less so no days but I am sure that still most players love the sport and many love the clubs they play for.
 
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