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England FA chief Greg Clarke resigns after using racist phrase

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Having just seen footage on the news, I’m not surprised he’s resigned. He’s not gone for just using the phrase “coloured.” He also said some pretty racist stuff about Asian people, and said being gay was a “lifestyle choice.“

Was he being intentionally racist? Probably not. Should someone who’s supposed to be encouraging more diversity and helping stop racism in football have known better, absolutely.
 
PLTuck

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Clumsy at best. Downright fucking idiotic at worst. I don't think this guy is a bigot.

Fair play to him for owning his fuckup / error / ignorance and fully accepting the consequences though, unlike some other highly paid members of our society *cough*DC*cough*
 
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punky

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For most people this would be a simple slip of the tongue but he's got a bit of form for this kind of thing
 
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I've worked with people a couple of generations older than me who were still using the term "coloured".

I've seen first hand how it can be an upsetting term to use, not least because it was the title label for a lot of the oppressive societal things.
 
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He's dinosaur & shouldn't be in the job.

Just hope they appoint someone who's fit for the job, although there aren't many that want it.

The FA needs reforming big time & hopefully they'll get someone in capable of doing it.
 
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sausage said:
I've worked with people a couple of generations older than me who were still using the term "coloured".

I've seen first hand how it can be an upsetting term to use, not least because it was the title label for a lot of the oppressive societal things.
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If that was my grandfather, I'd forgive him to some extent - it's terminology and thinking that was common decades ago. But Clarke was head of the FA. He should have known better. They just launched a diversity program, for fucks sake. And for those who defend him saying it just 'slipped out', anyone going in front of MPs who doesn't know how to speak properly and professionally doesn't belong in the job.
 
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Just a small step in bring the old suits at the FA into the 21st century.
 
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taidgh said:
If that was my grandfather, I'd forgive him to some extent - it's terminology and thinking that was common decades ago. But Clarke was head of the FA. He should have known better. They just launched a diversity program, for fucks sake. And for those who defend him saying it just 'slipped out', anyone going in front of MPs who doesn't know how to speak properly and professionally doesn't belong in the job.
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Yeah that's it - I don't hold it against people that they can't unlearn something that was drilled into them as kids, through most of their lives.

Professionals in any aspect though, yeah...
 
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Amazing how a word or phrase can denote racism in one country and its perfectly acceptable in another.

Here in South Africa the term coloured is used to classify people of mixed race. This stemmed from the early apartheid times. As a grouping of over 6 million people it's not considered offensive in the least. It seems to offend the black majority more than it does the coloured community of SA.
 
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piedpiper said:
Amazing how a word or phrase can denote racism in one country and its perfectly acceptable in another.

Here in South Africa the term coloured is used to classify people of mixed race. This stemmed from the early apartheid times. As a grouping of over 6 million people it's not considered offensive in the least. It seems to offend the black majority more than it does the coloured community of SA.
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Isn't South Africa considered a bit 'behind the times' in that general regard anyway? I work with a guy who grew up in SA and he's not very compatible with the UK, let's say.
 
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Isn't South Africa considered a bit 'behind the times' in that general regard anyway? I work with a guy who grew up in SA and he's not very compatible with the UK, let's say.
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Perhaps on many a issue but on the term coloured.... No. However it's based on the history of the country. You have the indentured labourers who came from India, the colonialists from Holland and England in the 1600 and 1800s etc. So it became a mixed pot of varying races. We have race classification of white, black, coloured and Indian.

Racism is very rife and as you'd put it behind the times on issues. But we don't view it that way. On your work colleague many of them have left for "greener" postures because they refused to adapt to the new dispensation or genuinely leaving for better economic opportunities.
 
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On your work colleague many of them have left for "greener" postures because they refused to adapt to the new dispensation or genuinely leaving for better economic opportunities.
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Nah, he's just an insufferable twat :ROFLMAO: He's worked in a few countries (middle aged now) and most of his sentences start "When I worked in South Africa" or "When I worked in the US". You don't dare ask "By the way, why did you leave" because you'll regret invoking a conversation.

I hypothesise that he was driven out.
 
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I hope none of you complain when you get to his age and say something that was acceptable now but is not acceptable in 30 years time that is considered non PC and you get slaughtered for it. I’m not says what he said is acceptable, but why is apologising bot enough any more when do people instantly have to loose their jobs, and why is it then ok to call him and old dinosaur because of his age. We live in a shocking world.
 
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Sierragls said:
I hope none of you complain when you get to his age and say something that was acceptable now but is not acceptable in 30 years time that is considered non PC and you get slaughtered for it. I’m not says what he said is acceptable, but why is apologising bot enough any more when do people instantly have to loose their jobs, and why is it then ok to call him and old dinosaur because of his age. We live in a shocking world.
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But it wasn't simply a slip of the tongue or poor use of language.

He was talking to MPs about diversity and his views were clearly behind the times and not in line with his role. Apologising is great but he showed he was unfit to do the job.

Calling someone a dinosaur is hardly the most offensive term, His views are outdated. Part of life. He doesn't need to be vilified for life.
 
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