England FA chief Greg Clarke resigns after using racist phrase

[Japhet]

Burn him!

 

[Duck]

Is it time for Sol Campbell to step up and claim the position he was destined for?

 

[King of Otters]

There’ll be no old white guys left in positions of power at this rate.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

There’ll be no old white guys left in positions of power at this rate.

yes you truly have become the oppressed minority

 

[mumfordspur]

Amazing how a word or phrase can denote racism in one country and its perfectly acceptable in another.

Here in South Africa the term coloured is used to classify people of mixed race. This stemmed from the early apartheid times. As a grouping of over 6 million people it's not considered offensive in the least. It seems to offend the black majority more than it does the coloured community of SA.

a good mate of mine was with the lovely Jenny for several years she had come over from SA to escape from being known as a "Cape Coloured"

 

[King of Otters]

yes you truly have become the oppressed minority

Agree. Hopefully this will have been addressed by the time I become an OWG and need to find a well paid position of power.

 

[Shadydan]

There’ll be no old white guys left in positions of power at this rate.

I think they'll be alright

Almost 6 in 10 UK public firms have no ethnic minority board member, EY claims

The research is based on companies comprising the FTSE 350 index.

www.cnbc.com

 

[brasil_spur]

I hope none of you complain when you get to his age and say something that was acceptable now but is not acceptable in 30 years time that is considered non PC and you get slaughtered for it. I’m not says what he said is acceptable, but why is apologising bot enough any more when do people instantly have to loose their jobs, and why is it then ok to call him and old dinosaur because of his age. We live in a shocking world.

Yeh good point, we should all just keep our current day views and not look to better and educate ourselves as the world changes and societal norms shift over time, especially if we find ourselves in charge of an organisation that is the leading body of an industry that has been criticised for its historic and current lack of inclusion....

 

[brasil_spur]

You are right and I couldn’t care less if he is in the job or not, but it’s the whole lynch mob attitude demanding instant sackings.

Also Dinosaur many not be the most offensive term, but it’s still discrimination towards someone’s age, so he everyone wants to get rid of discrimination towards people because of the colour of their skin or ethnicity, then they also have to include age into that as well and not use derogatory terms against them either.

Don’t get me wrong, I am 39 so I’m not standing up for an age group that I fall into. I try to be reasonable and forgiving to anyone, but I can see in 20/30 years time when the current generation fall into the older age bracket and they say or do something that is not politically correct they will be wanting everyone to be forgiving and not hold it against them, it won’t happen though because the lynch mob attitude will only get worse.

IMO Dinosaur refers to having prehistoric viewpoints (i.e. outdated) rather than the age of the person, particularly in the context the op used this.

Again we all need to change our views over time as things do become less acceptable over time, that's how the civil rights, women's rights, LGBTQ rights etc.. issues have moved on. It's also abundantly clear from attending any PL football match that racism, homophobia and misogyny are still rampant in the fan side of the game.

A man in his position should be held to task over these sorts of comments and fortunately in this scenario that happened.

 

[Duck]

IMO Dinosaur refers to having prehistoric viewpoints (i.e. outdated) rather than the age of the person, particularly in the context the op used this.

Again we all need to change our views over time as things do become less acceptable over time, that's how the civil rights, women's rights, LGBTQ rights etc.. issues have moved on. It's also abundantly clear from attending any PL football match that racism, homophobia and misogyny are still rampant in the fan side of the game.

A man in his position should be held to task over these sorts of comments and fortunately in this scenario that happened.

No we don't. Freedom of thought should never be compromised.

 

[brasil_spur]

No we don't. Freedom of thought should never be compromised.

No-one said anything about restricting freedom of thought, but to not change your viewpoints over time is a ridiculous concept and frankly the cause of many of the problems in the world right now. It's also a ridiculous thing to suggest you don't change your viewpoints over time - unless you're telling me you look at the world in the same way you did when you were 4 years old?

Come on, it's obvious we all need to change our views as new information and understanding comes to light and as our ability to better understand and empathise with situations develops.

 

[dontcallme]

No we don't. Freedom of thought should never be compromised.

"I don't wish to grow as a person" is a very weird mantra to live by.

 

[Duck]

No-one said anything about restricting freedom of thought, but to not change your viewpoints over time is a ridiculous concept and frankly the cause of many of the problems in the world right now. It's also a ridiculous thing to suggest you don't change your viewpoints over time - unless you're telling me you look at the world in the same way you did when you were 4 years old?

Come on, it's obvious we all need to change our views as new information and understanding comes to light and as our ability to better understand and empathise with situations develops.

"Again we all need to change our views over time as things do become less acceptable over time "
That sounds exactly like trying to restrict freedom of thought.

Nobody needs to change their views on anything because something vaguely "becomes less acceptable over time" (IE- Twitter).

 

[Duck]

"I don't wish to grow as a person" is a very weird mantra to live by.

Growing up doesn't entail changing your views because mainstream society demands it.

 

[dontcallme]

Growing up doesn't entail changing your views because mainstream society demands it.

Nope, but then I didn't say you have to agree with everyone else did I?

Anyone not looking to grow and change as a person is getting life wrong in my view.

 

[Duck]

Nope, but then I didn't say you have to agree with everyone else did I?

Anyone not looking to grow and change as a person is getting life wrong in my view.

I simply take issue with the statement "Again we all need to change our views over time as things do become less acceptable over time ".

 

[brasil_spur]

"Again we all need to change our views over time as things do become less acceptable over time "
That sounds exactly like trying to restrict freedom of thought.

Nobody needs to change their views on anything because something vaguely "becomes less acceptable over time" (IE- Twitter).

LOL, we're not talking in this thread about things vaguely becoming less acceptable over time, we're talking about key issues such as racism and homophobia, based on what Greg Clarke has said.

If you don't think people should change their views on racism and homophobia over time then you're a very concerning person. It was only 53 years ago that homosexuality was decriminalised in England - so are you saying that there's no reason for an 70 year old who was 17 when this happened to change his views on homosexuality being a criminal act?

 

[brasil_spur]

I simply take issue with the statement "Again we all need to change our views over time as things do become less acceptable over time ".

So are you saying that here is no need for all of us to change our views over time? A person can form their finalised view at a certain age (maybe you can enlighten us as to what age this should be) and then regardless of the changes in societal norms that occur there shouldn't be any need for changing that view?

 

[Duck]

LOL, we're not talking in this thread about things vaguely becoming less acceptable over time, we're talking about key issues such as racism and homophobia, based on what Greg Clarke has said.

If you don't think people should change their views on racism and homophobia over time then you're a very concerning person. It was only 63 years ago that homosexuality was decriminalised in England - so are you saying that there's no reason for an 80 year old who was 17 when this happened to change his views on homosexuality being a criminal act?

It's not about whether or not there's a reason to change, I take issue with the idea that you say people need to change.

Nobody needs to change their views because people like yourself personally disapprove. You might think they're the most repulsive views and opinions ever, that doesn't mean people should be forced to change them.

 

[Duck]

So are you saying that here is no need for all of us to change our views over time? A person can form their finalised view at a certain age (maybe you can enlighten us as to what age this should be) and then regardless of the changes in societal norms that occur there shouldn't be any need for changing that view?

Nope, not one bit. Nobody should ever need to change their views on anything because people like yourself deem it unacceptable. It's their choice, their business, their freedom of thought. Simple as that.