Everton v Spurs ratings

[Bus-Conductor]

i disagree with your dawson rating, thought he played well today. simple fact is he's just not that good, however.

bale was terrible, giving him 6.5 is like giving palacios an 8.... oh. bale made a couple of good runs, struck a good free kick but once again reitarated that he is unbelievably poor at defending. why he/harry still plays (him) at LB is beyond me, he's either a winger or nothing in my view.

defoe was ok, but pretty poor in front of goal for his high standards.

I don't think Redknapp had any choice today with regards to swapping Bale for Ekotto. I agree and have said since we signed him that Bale is not good enough as a LB, but today Ekotto's defending was terrible and he'd got himself carded. I would have made exactly the same swap. Bale does give us another dimension going forward though. he put in a couple of quality crosses.

I'm not sure what you constitute creating a chance considering that you've said Lennon only created 1... what about the two fabulous crosses he put in in the first half? Or are balls into the box not chances? And how about the through ball to Defoe which JD hit past the far post?

Are you basing your stats on a source of some sort? If so, get a new source. If you genuinely only saw 1 chance created by Lennon the whole game I can only assume you were channel hopping during play.

As for your ratings of Dawson and Bassong, I'm astounded. Dawson got himself booked stupidly, but that aside he won every tackle (including one superb one from behind in the area), every ball in the air, and he scored a great goal. He was fantastic. Bassong on the other hand lost his man on both the goals we conceded and looked generally shaky throughout.

Were you not astounded by how well Bassong reads the game and covers both Ekotto's and Dawson's arse on occasion when they fuck up or get dragged out of position. This despite the fact that he's three years younger than Dawson and made about 100 appearances less in the EPL.

Dawson did OK today but with his age and experience he shouldn't be making the same old blunders. Going diving in up the pitch or giving away stupid free kicks to a side that thrive on them. As Yidio said, the truth is he just isn't good enough pure and simple. 100% effort but poor intellect and pace. No problem being in the squad and as a No.4 CB back up he's fine.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I must correct myself as a result of MotD2, Lennons throughball was to Crouch who blasted over.

However, as you have not contradicted me on the Lennon point, I can only assume that you've realised that you've bee a tad harsh.

As for Bassong/ Dawson, we clearly scrutiniste them in very different ways so I'm not going to bother, its too late and I'm too tired.

 

[Damian99]

As for your ratings of Dawson and Bassong, I'm astounded. Dawson got himself booked stupidly, but that aside he won every tackle (including one superb one from behind in the area), every ball in the air, and he scored a great goal. He was fantastic. Bassong on the other hand lost his man on both the goals we conceded and looked generally shaky throughout.

Im afraid Dawson can't do much right in BCs eyes, it's laughable to suggest Bassong covers for Dawsons mistakes. Dawson put us 2-0 up and in a comfortable position and he also grabbed us a point at Villa and was possibly MOTM to boot.

He is very reliable and better than most 3rd choice CBs most other clubs have. He wins alot of headers and comes out on top when opposition forwards are physical and strong. He will fight and give you 100% week in and week out. As for his mistakes, well tell me a player who never makes any?.

Not really sure BC what else he needs to do for you? Come round and cut your grass at the weekends?

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I stand by what I said about lennon. He was lively and put in 2/3 really good crosses including a fine one for the goal. But Kranjcar also created good chances and saw way more of the ball therefore merited a higher mark.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I stand by what I said about lennon. He was lively and put in 2/3 really good crosses including a fine one for the goal. But Kranjcar also created good chances and saw way more of the ball therefore merited a higher mark.

What you said about Lennon was that he created 1 chance all game if you recall

 

[Bingy]

Defoe LOST us this game....END of. He was his usual 'selfish' twat. I'm afraid that Harry needs to let him warm the bench, again. The 5 goal haul (V Wigan) has gone straight to his head, again, and he has cost us (along with others, I might add) apart from the Penalty mess.... He wasted a fair amount of chances to play his 'teammates' in to score....(there is no Defoe in Teamwork? haha). We can FORGET CL with this TWAT in the team. :bang:COYS (Defoe-less)

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Ah Bingy, beacon of intelligent discursion as ever

 

[Bulletspur]

Gomes 7 He did what was necessary and was solid. No fault for either goals

Carluca 7 Another solid performer

Dawson 8 I gave him an extra point for the goal. Starting to form a steady partnership with Bassong

Bassong 7 Solid performance

BAE 3 One of my fav players but he was awful today. I took away another point as he caused Bale to be on the pitch, who I blamed for them scoring twice!

Lennon 9 Best winger in England at the moment. My MOM

Palacious 7 Solid, broke up alot of their play. The Wilson of old. Welcome back

Huddlestone 6 Not my favourite player. Was found wanting against a 5 man midfield. Uncharacteristically was pasing to the opposition at times. Burt also uncharacterisically was making the few tackles he made count!

Kranjcar 6 Quietish game by the standard he set in his previous two games for us.

Crouch 5 Woeful

Defoe 8 Penalty save aside, he gave a solid performance and his industry is to be commended. Our best striker by far.

Jenas 6 Nothing special at this stage of the game

Bale 3 Gave them the goals in my opinion. I rate him as a LM not a defender


At the start I would have happily accepted one point, but this is one game that we actually lost two. I think that (and I was saying so before they scord) Harry should have taken Crouch off and brought JJ on so that we would have sifled their midfield a bit more, who were servicing their fresh strikers who had just come on.

On reflection, I am still proud of the boys because it was still a very good display away from home. We raised our game pysically when it mattered to counteract their bullish and physical tactics.

Still loving you Spurs!

 

[AlexSkree]

Funny thing, Huddlestone got 3 bonuspoint on fantasy..

 

[ShelfSide18]

You're looking at it the wrong way around. Yes i agree we should have defender better but if Wilson does the easiest of things, we don't need to worry about the latter. Its the same as bale giving away the ball from our free kick against Man United the other night, cut out the stupid mistakes and the afterwards won't matter.

If you look at any game, even the most heroic defensive perfomances you will see instances like this. It was a poor clearance but nothing we should have panicked over and we should have mopped up the resulting cross. Aside from that Wilson was brilliant today and it's unfair to blame the 2nd on him because of a dodgy clearance.

It's one of those days where most players played well but a combination of underlying mental weakness and a fantastic home crowd which broke us, one of those days we have to look at the collective faults we have rather than individual errors.

 

[Bingy]

Bring back LeGin, would YOU have him in your top team every week, on todays poor performance? For 5th-8th place, YES, but for 1st - 4th NO! I concede that I am 'still' hurting from the game....but.....when is enough enough? COYS!

 

[MattyP]

Bring back LeGin, would YOU have him in your top team every week, on todays poor performance? For 5th-8th place, YES, but for 1st - 4th NO! I concede that I am 'still' hurting from the game....but.....when is enough enough? COYS!

God forbid that we include the league's top scorer in our team.

I bet you the gooners or the bindippers would love to have him right now and they have finished in the top four for the last god knows how long.

 

[haxman]

Funny thing, Huddlestone got 3 bonuspoint on fantasy..

Wouldn't read anything into that Milner got the 3 bp's in our match last week and he did **** all.

 

[ShelfSide18]

Bring back LeGin, would YOU have him in your top team every week, on todays poor performance? For 5th-8th place, YES, but for 1st - 4th NO! I concede that I am 'still' hurting from the game....but.....when is enough enough? COYS!

He wasn't poor today at all, he was infinitely better than the Villa and Man Utd games because he was really making things happen and his movement was superb. Of course he (and Crouch) should have put the game to bed but the chances we created today are hugely encouraging. We scored 2 away goals and we shouldn't have conceded any. If we had held on we'd be purring over an excellent forward line display.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

What you said about Lennon was that he created 1 chance all game if you recall

If you say he created two then fair enough. But I was running off memory backed up by the stats from here:

http://telegraph.jumpmediagroup.com/PlayerStat.aspx?p1id=5127&p2id=3789


Maybe they only count attempts created that weren't actually credited assists. IE the cross for the goal gets counted as an assist, therefore not in the "other" attempts created column.

But I repeat, Kranjcar made more chances and saw more of the ball. Better mark. For me that is the reality, not the perception.

But I did give Lennon credit for his end product today. But 11 passes all game and a bit of lazy defending shouldn't be ignored just because you provide some entertaining moments and a great cross.

 

[Legend10]

Defoe LOST us this game....END of. He was his usual 'selfish' twat. I'm afraid that Harry needs to let him warm the bench, again. The 5 goal haul (V Wigan) has gone straight to his head, again, and he has cost us (along with others, I might add) apart from the Penalty mess.... He wasted a fair amount of chances to play his 'teammates' in to score....(there is no Defoe in Teamwork? haha). We can FORGET CL with this TWAT in the team. :bang:COYS (Defoe-less)

Yep, 12 Premiership goals from 12 starts is absolute crap, we need to get rid of that Defoe twat as quickly as possible or he may end up getting 20-25 Premiership goals this season, and we certainly wouldn't want that!

 

[Son_Of]

This doesn't detract from some of the good things that come out of this game. Under intense Goodison atmosphere and a team that never lie down and always play with spirit we played by far the better football.

you can't have been there. there's traditionally atmosphere at goodison, but today NOT A PEEP for 70minutes. embarassing fans. absolutley embarassing.

Ekotto was showing why some of us still worry about him intensely. Redknapp did make a very good decision to take him off at half time. Bale isn't exactly a solid defender either but at least he couldn't be any worse that Ekotto today, he wasn't on a yellow (yet) and he attacks much better than Ekotto.

Benny could have been sent off. after his yellow card he bundled someone over with a shove and no chance of making a tackle.

Defoe's penalty was shit.

yup. his goal was good tho

Dawson 6.5 - Bit dawsonish today. Gave some silly things away that could have cost and gets caught out up the pitch. Gave it his all as usual though. Usual Dawson stuff really

No no no! why is it some people can't see dawson playing well? a couple of free kicks conceded but so many headers won, attacks broken up, clearances made. he was a colossus today. good goal too. thankfully the fans at the game were prepared to give him a chance (and not churn out cliches about all heart but too clumsy) and were rewarding his excellent work with some yid love. i'm really bored of people insisnting dawson is just a trier (tryer?)

Palacios 8 - I though he was great today. Covered a shit load of ground and completed more passes than Hudd.

yeah much more like it from wilson today. hope he is not out for long with injury

 

[Coyboy]

Press the wrong button and lose my post. Oh well, can't be arsed to type again, long day. Yep until the 78th minute, the crowd was not impressive. Some even left before they scored.

 

[NickHSpurs]

Didn't post earlier cos I was so angry, so here they are now I've chilled:

Gomes 6 - Didn't have a great deal to do except pick ball out the net!

Corluka 7 - Thought he linked up well with Lennon today

Dawson 7 - Great in the air, good header for goal

Bassong 6 - Noticed a couple of times today he let the ball bounce, you can not do that as a defender, you have to attack aerial balls

Ekotto 4 - Worst game in a Spurs shirt. Didn't look commited to challenges today. Did he have that operation? Has it affected him?

Lennon 8 - Quality again, some wonderful runs and crosses

Palacious 8 - Back to the Wilson we know and love today

Hudd 6 - Thought he was okay, nothing special but nothing bad either

Kranjcar 6 - Would have been a lot more but his decision to commit himself with a stupid slide tackle just before the second goal cost us

Defoe 8 - Constant threat again, did well today apart from the pen, some go in, some don't. Great movement.

Crouch 6 - Nothing special, but not bad

Bale 5 - Poor defending

 

[NickHSpurs]

Defoe LOST us this game....END of. He was his usual 'selfish' twat. I'm afraid that Harry needs to let him warm the bench, again. The 5 goal haul (V Wigan) has gone straight to his head, again, and he has cost us (along with others, I might add) apart from the Penalty mess.... He wasted a fair amount of chances to play his 'teammates' in to score....(there is no Defoe in Teamwork? haha). We can FORGET CL with this TWAT in the team. :bang:COYS (Defoe-less)

Ridiculous post! His movement was top class today as it always is. Caused them all sorts of problem and ALWAYS looked like our most likely player to score, which in case you forgot he did.

Yeah he missed a pen, but that doesn't deserve idiotic comments like this.