Match Threads Everton vs Spurs

[Styopa]

He didn't have a shot did he? Not counting the offside as it wouldn't have counted

I think he had one other shot from a Johnson cross or is that the one you’re talking about?

I’m of the opinion that he has done ok so far but I think some people are giving him a bit too much credit because he is new… which means in about ten matches time everyone will turn on him because he hasn’t reached the high standards they have made up

 

[DenverSpur]

Forget the result, can we stop wearing that absolute monstrosity of a shit stained kit please.

We never play well with the poopie kit.

 

[luRRka]

I think he had one other shot from a Johnson cross or is that the one you’re talking about?

I’m of the opinion that he has done ok so far but I think some people are giving him a bit too much credit because he is new… which means in about ten matches time everyone will turn on him because he hasn’t reached the high standards they have made up

Godfrey intercepted it. He should have had a shot but kind of waited for the ball to come

 

[yido_number1]

I think he had one other shot from a Johnson cross or is that the one you’re talking about?

I’m of the opinion that he has done ok so far but I think some people are giving him a bit too much credit because he is new… which means in about ten matches time everyone will turn on him because he hasn’t reached the high standards they have made up

I'm perfectly happy to accept his shooting is shit as long as the assists and work rate is there. Long term though it would be easy to upgrade him and I genuinely think Johnson and Kulu will grow into much better players long term.

 

[TonyS]

Forget about the project, forget about us having players missing, forget about Vic been fouled, we should be putting these clowns to the sword. Simple as.

 

[StockSpur]

”90th minute”

 

[StockSpur]

If hojbjerg starts we ceed possession. Some of his passing today was Sunday league level.

you should stick to sunday league

people here act like hes the only
one whose passing misses the target, most of our players are guilty of errant, non thought out passes

 

[DenverSpur]

Too be honest when I saw us in our poopie kit on top of it being an early KO(where we never seem up for it) I feared the worst.
So it turned out. Apart from the first few minutes we never ever were really in control of the game. Too many sloppy passes, too weak in the tackle, second best for 50/50 balls especially in the middle of the field meant we rarely got the ball out to our wide men so rarely caused them any real problems. Both Bentancur and Hojberg were poor.

Disappointing to draw after being ahead twice but over the 90 minutes a draw was probably all we deserved.
Kulusevski kept up a long tradition of Spurs players of giving up needless free kicks in our final third, especially, when under pressure near the end of games. I honestly think we are probably the worst team in the PL at doing this!

I didn’t think the substitutions did us any favours. None of the substitutes really had a positive effect on the game. What little control we had was lost leaving us hanging on a bit. Bringing on the Dragon seemed more to do with giving him minutes rather than a cohesive plan. We’re heading in the right direction transfer wise but this is the next step; having a bench that can have a positive influence on the game in the same way that Liverpool and ManC’s benches do.
Richarlison took both his goals well and worked tirelessly. Turning into a veritable goal machine. Maddison kept plugging away but still not quite fully up to speed. Van the Man was imperious at the back and his speed probably saved Vic having to be called into action.
Vicario didn’t have the best of days. The first goal is 50/50 a foul but he should be stronger and the defenders should be doing more to protect him. I thought he could and should have got to the ball before Brainthwaite for the second goal.

Lastly, how is that not a penalty when VdV is grappled to the ground at a corner. When you see some of the (soft) penalties that have been given you have to think we’re not destined to get any this season.

 

[NEVILLEB]

What a depressing stat this is.

Tottenham have now conceded eight goals in the 90th minute this season, their most in a Premier League campaign and the most of any side in the division this term.

This shows mental weakness. Very disappointing.

 

[shoggy33]

Just watched the game on the delay from Australia. Honestly I thought we were poor. Everton rattled us basically from the minute we opened the scoring. Everton do not have a good home record so that goes down as arguably our most disappointing performance of the season for me because there aren't really any mitigating factors on this occasion. We were missing a couple of players but so were they. They just looked like they wanted it more. Only real positives were Richarlison, VDV, and Maddison looking slightly (only slightly) better. Big improvements needed if we are going to get top 4, especially defensively because we aren't getting anywhere conceding 2 goals per game.

 

[PCozzie]

This shows mental weakness. Very disappointing.

More generally I think it's also a reflection of how football has changed in the last 20 years.

Back in the day any team that had less than 40% possession were dead by the 75th minute. Subs all used and 5 players who could barley run. A team who were one or two goals up could 'see the game out' with a bit of timewasting, and some ole's from the crowd.

Nowadays even the weakest teams averaging 30% possesion are still sprinting in the 95th minute almost like the first, and have often replaced half their team anyway. Whoever you are (maybe except City) if you're only one or two goals up with 15 minutes to play then it's going to be a backs to the wall job to get the win.

It's relentless, teams just don't stop.

 

[jay2040]

To me it just seemed they had more hunger overall as a team than we did today.
Loved Richy with his acting skills!

 

[ginola007]

This shows mental weakness. Very disappointing.

Today, I think the team were physically tired rather than mentally weak. They expanded a lot of energy against Brantford on Wednesday, and then have to travel north on Friday. And as was posted earlier, Maddy and Bentancur were still not match-fit.

And I think teams have found a weakness in Vicario. He obviously couldn't deal with big guys standing in front of him and opponents charging at him during set pieces. That will be something for the coaching staff and him to sort out.

 

[Styopa]

More generally I think it's also a reflection of how football has changed in the last 20 years.

Back in the day any team that had less than 40% possession were dead by the 75th minute. Subs all used and 5 players who could barley run. A team who were one or two goals up could 'see the game out' with a bit of timewasting, and some ole's from the crowd.

Nowadays even the weakest teams averaging 30% possesion are still sprinting in the 95th minute almost like the first, and have often replaced half their team anyway. Whoever you are (maybe except City) if you're only one or two goals up with 15 minutes to play then it's going to be a backs to the wall job to get the win.

It's relentless, teams just don't stop.

That’s a really good point.

There’s also a sense in which most draws are now seen as a disappointing result for us. Especially draws versus teams outside the top five or six teams. Whereas in the past, a draw away to a well organised mid table team was generally considered a decent result for most teams.

 

[Gilzeanking]

Today, I think the team were physically tired rather than mentally weak. They expanded a lot of energy against Brantford on Wednesday, and then have to travel north on Friday. And as was posted earlier, Maddy and Bentancur were still not match-fit.

And I think teams have found a weakness in Vicario. He obviously couldn't deal with big guys standing in front of him and opponents charging at him during set pieces. That will be something for the coaching staff and him to sort out.

Somebody was saying that this high line for oppo free kicks is always dangerous as everyone is racing back towards our goal.The alternative being a deeper setup where our defenders face forward.

Not an area of expertise for me, tho I can see what that poster was saying.

 

[Monkey boy]

Can’t stand Dyche and his shit tactics. Can’t stand Everton and their pathetic fans booing every decision. Would love them to get relegated and not be seen again.

 

[bubble07]

All I want is a pacey tricky winger that is a goal theat

I can just think of one suitable - michael olise. Then I think our first X1 is complete. We then work on better back ups

 

[1882andallthat]

people here act like hes the only
one whose passing misses the target, most of our players are guilty of errant, non thought out passes

Spot on

 

[Gilzeanking]

. Big improvements needed if we are going to get top 4, especially defensively because we aren't getting anywhere conceding 2 goals per game.

Yes and it needs to be remembered that we now have our no 1 defence all in place. No absentees.

..and we can't defend effectively for 90 minutes. This is serious imo and there are several Ange game management issues that are hurting us badly imo.

I do hope Ange will learn a bit of common sense flexibility rather than one style rigidly no matter the score no matter the oppo or how late in the game it is. The Prem is sussing him out now imo.

 

[Styopa]

Yes and it needs to be remembered that we now have our no 1 defence all in place. No absentees.

..and we can't defend effectively for 90 minutes. This is serious imo and there are several Ange game management issues that are hurting us badly imo.

I do hope Ange will learn a bit of common sense flexibility rather than one style rigidly no matter the score no matter the oppo or how late in the game it is. The Prem is sussing him out now imo.

The problem imo is we had no control of the midfield. Bentancur was a passenger, Maddison was on the periphery and Hojbjerg’s passing was all over the place. We couldn’t keep hold of the ball so the ball kept on being launched right back at us. I don’t think it was a problem with the defence or even the tactics per se, it’s just we had no control of the ball.

I also wonder what you mean by game management? It’s not like we were committing huge numbers forward? There was no sense of throwing caution to the wind or taking unnecessary risks. Quite the opposite in fact. We were being pinned back and couldn’t wrestle control of the match. We even brought on an extra centre back - the opposite of rigidity given it’s a change of formation and system.