can someone put us out of our misery we are going nowhere with this clown.... no offence, nice person but football is as dire as shit can be.... put up this with crap last few years.... told by our wonderful chairman things would change.... they have, got much worse.... can't keep watching this shit..... sorry but he has to go... might be sounding over dramatic but wait until we get thrashed v chelsea, then maybe arsenal but in fact with west ham, villa, man utd and newcastle in next 6 we are not picking much up.... honestly think in terms of football we are the worst team in the division... luckily we have some stand out players otherwise relegation would def be on the cards....
FORMER Manager Watch: Nuno Espírito Santo
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so which bit you disagree with? fact - we are creating nothing and getting lucky goals...fact we look awful... so you think we are going to get a mass of points in next 6 games? anyone who has watched the first 4/6/8 games (lge, cups, friendlies) can see the writing is on the wall... please tell me what i am seeing wrong?
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For me, football is primarily about results. So far I think Nuno has got five games right including Rennes which was a vital point and leaves us favourites to top the group
The Pacos game wasn't good but as we won the tie, no big deal
The Palace game was bad, really bad
I think we're going to get a bad result V Chelsea, just hope we can beat Wolves, before probably a bad result V Arsenal
ATM overall I think Nuno is doing okay, but suspect I will be joining his critics after the next 11 days or so
The Pacos game wasn't good but as we won the tie, no big deal
The Palace game was bad, really bad
I think we're going to get a bad result V Chelsea, just hope we can beat Wolves, before probably a bad result V Arsenal
ATM overall I think Nuno is doing okay, but suspect I will be joining his critics after the next 11 days or so
they were better signs tonight, i enjoyed seeing ndombele play despite his flaws.... but simple fact it took us 41 mins to get a shot on target and we ended up with 3 or 4 attempts with 2 lucky goals... even the pundits can see it so i am not sure who is trying to defend us.... all i want is more entertaining football... stick with ndombele i would rather watch us with him trying to entertain with a few flicks and being a bit lazy defending than without him and being defensive and zero creativity....
Im all for giving him time. We need stability badly. However, we all know where this is going. There is a very strong stench of last days atm. The football, the injuries, the tension. Hope things improve but I’m not sure they will.
I think Paratici would be flabber gasted that the football is this bad. He called for a more pragmatic manager because he knew our defense needed A TON of help. I think he too thought we’d be getting the Valencia Nuno that he sold Levy on. I highly doubt he expected to get the 20/21 Wolves Nuno.
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DCSPUR64
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Just like with ever other manager, nowhere, that's right, we did not even turn up for the CL final. So come Sunday, I will watch the game, as a new day.
The coffin was nailed on the CL final with the hand ball. It was killed when Kane was named in the XI. I think the players thought Lucas deserved to start & were disheartened that he didnt. But I think they were just completely done with it after the hand ball.
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I'm not sure the two year contract is a giveaway that Levy sees him as a stop gap. As someone has already pointed out, a lot of coaches get a two year contract.
I think the giveaway is not getting Traore. A player who NES really wanted, with backing from both Hitchen and Paratici, when the club are short of attacking numbers. And Levy still shelved it.
He's often done that when he's got some doubts.
Redknapp wanted better investment, yet the only time he really backed him was when we were facing relegation and he knew a significant investment was necessary. He saw him as short term, which is why the rest of the time he never really pushed the boat out.
He backed Mourinho a bit but then he didn't see the rewards of that so he's hardly going to back NES.
Most of our buys have been very much with the future in mind, which tells me he's gone back to the long term game and Nuno is probably not in mind in this regard.
Levy's hand was forced by his own actions.
I think the giveaway is not getting Traore. A player who NES really wanted, with backing from both Hitchen and Paratici, when the club are short of attacking numbers. And Levy still shelved it.
He's often done that when he's got some doubts.
Redknapp wanted better investment, yet the only time he really backed him was when we were facing relegation and he knew a significant investment was necessary. He saw him as short term, which is why the rest of the time he never really pushed the boat out.
He backed Mourinho a bit but then he didn't see the rewards of that so he's hardly going to back NES.
Most of our buys have been very much with the future in mind, which tells me he's gone back to the long term game and Nuno is probably not in mind in this regard.
Levy's hand was forced by his own actions.
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I was due to go to my parent's house on Sunday to watch the game, as I do for almost all televised Spurs matches. I'm 39 but I've been doing it ever since I left home in my 20's. My parents are massive Spurs fans, my whole family is, and my mum cooks the ultimate roast (as everyone's mum does) so it's always a pleasure to head over there.
I told them today I wouldn't be round this weekend. Might be the first time in living memory I've actively decided not to watch Spurs.
Just going to be too horrific watching that shower of scum beat us after spending yet more money to get yet another title-quality squad and manager. They do it every few years and it's just groundhog day.
And I honestly didn't think we'd be this bad this quickly. I actually had some hope for this season but the international break has killed half the squad and it's revealed gaping holes in positions all over the pitch.
Nope, on Sunday I'm going to take my daughter to the park and ignore the whole thing as much as possible. I'll be back round my parent's for the Arsenal game...
I told them today I wouldn't be round this weekend. Might be the first time in living memory I've actively decided not to watch Spurs.
Just going to be too horrific watching that shower of scum beat us after spending yet more money to get yet another title-quality squad and manager. They do it every few years and it's just groundhog day.
And I honestly didn't think we'd be this bad this quickly. I actually had some hope for this season but the international break has killed half the squad and it's revealed gaping holes in positions all over the pitch.
Nope, on Sunday I'm going to take my daughter to the park and ignore the whole thing as much as possible. I'll be back round my parent's for the Arsenal game...
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The players weren’t ‘done’ with the CL final after the handball. The occasion possibly got to them and the heat was something barely any of them were used to in a high stakes game. Liverpool as a club had more recent experience in big games like that, and it’s what ultimately won them the day. Not to mention the fact that they simply had a better team than us, which had run City extremely close to the title. We were lucky to scrape top 4.
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Why would Paratici be flabbergasted? He's in the room when decisions are made behind the scenes, supposedly directing football. He's on the bench making a show of himself. If he's the football director, he appointed Nuno. Where are you getting this idea that somehow he is divorced from any possibly downturn? If things go south for Nuno, then things go south for Paratici too and the Don gets maybe one more bite at it.
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Hilarious for those who keeps referring Nuno as Mourinho-lite, Mourinho mk2 etc. We will be blessed it he truly is. The real Mourinho is tearing up at Roma and is getting them scoring for fun. If anyone thinks, ok Serie A is a lower league than the Premiership or CSKA is mid tier team, perhaps then we shouldn't be playing with such difficulty against Palace and Rennes.
The arrogance of some of our fans towards Mourinho is unbelievable. He did not break the squad we had, and our squad does not need that bad of a fixing because of him. The constant has always been Levy and some of the pricks, softies and weaklings still present in our squad - they are the main reasons why Nuno still stuck in a worse state than Mourinho days. So many players of success had said you need the mentality to play under Mourinho, it's obvious so many of our players lacked that. Yet we seemed to have signed quite a fair bit of players who did to have that mentality now - Gil, Gollini, Royal, Romero - but now we have a coach in Nuno who doesn't seem to have anything but nice. People couldn't fault him because he's nice. Amazing. And people were faulting Mourinho even though he knew better but because he's not nice.
If things not going to improve in terms of how we play, and I have given up hopes of getting results for the time being looking at our next few fixtures, I'll be eager to see how much more time some people can give Nuno when he's already produced the style worse than Mourinho in less than 10 games. I don't know what's the plan now, the football is so bad. At least we could still counter attack preciously.
The arrogance of some of our fans towards Mourinho is unbelievable. He did not break the squad we had, and our squad does not need that bad of a fixing because of him. The constant has always been Levy and some of the pricks, softies and weaklings still present in our squad - they are the main reasons why Nuno still stuck in a worse state than Mourinho days. So many players of success had said you need the mentality to play under Mourinho, it's obvious so many of our players lacked that. Yet we seemed to have signed quite a fair bit of players who did to have that mentality now - Gil, Gollini, Royal, Romero - but now we have a coach in Nuno who doesn't seem to have anything but nice. People couldn't fault him because he's nice. Amazing. And people were faulting Mourinho even though he knew better but because he's not nice.
If things not going to improve in terms of how we play, and I have given up hopes of getting results for the time being looking at our next few fixtures, I'll be eager to see how much more time some people can give Nuno when he's already produced the style worse than Mourinho in less than 10 games. I don't know what's the plan now, the football is so bad. At least we could still counter attack preciously.
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A comparison that doesn't work. Sadly. There's no doubt Tuchel is excellent, but the depth of the squad and finances don't compare. There are also a lot of variables that cannot be accounted for.
For it to be comparable, you'd have to let Tuchel have a pop at the same squad, with the same.injury and absent player issues.
I'm.not so convinced anyone could do any better as it currently stands.
For me, it's pointless to judge nuno until he has a fully fit squad with everyone available for.selection. even then, after several games.
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One of my main criticisms, spurs weren't even putting together basic triangle patterns very often. A few times the player with the ball had to go sideways or back, as his team mates were all static. I thought they were constantly looking for an incisive pass, expecting it to just open up as opposed to moving the ball about to make a creative pass possible. Not sure I've explained that very well, but in essence, I was irritated at the off the ball movement when in attacking phases of play.
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I don’t disagree with all your points although we all figured we’d be lucky to get anything from our first two games of the season and got six points, so we’ll see.
The other truth is that we’d be beyond a joke to sack Nuno this season. You think any other self-respecting manager would come near us if Nuno’s ousted in the first six-12 months barring an actual relegation battle?
Buckle up, fellas. This season is going to be tough. Let us just hope there are some green shoots at some point.
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Difference with Chelsea is that they have a coherent transfer strategy whereby they are always buying in the best players on the market, regardless of their manager. Tuchel didn't walk into the club to find perennial losers Winks, Sissoko, Dele, Dier etc in the dressing room.
Whether or not Nuno is the right manager, he has been dealt a difficult hand with a poorly invested squad, multiple injuries and absences, and our star striker pushing to leave. Not exactly the same situation that Tuchel walked into at Chelsea.
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What a laugh. We went from a top level manager playing front foot football to a dinosaur who spent two years playing cuck football for 2 years. A guy who has written his philosophy of 'possession is weakness' in his biography.
I don't have much patience for Nuno's conservatism right now, but a post like this helps to redouble my efforts to give him a chance to turn the ship around after two years of negative shit-on-a-stick football.
