FORMER Manager Watch: Nuno Espírito Santo

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

he was sacked by Porto after less than a year with zero silverware

He also led Rio Ave FC into the Europa League for the first time in their history.

Either way it's way more than Mason has ever achieved in his managerial 'career'.

 

[freeeki]

Probably a controversial opinion, but considering what has transpired since we may as well have stuck with Jose.

Paratici x Jose would have made for an interesting transfer window, for sure. Paratici knows how to get a deal done, and Jose still has star attraction power above most managers.

I don't think Levy would have liked it much, though.

 

[sidford]

View from the Lane is a good listen this week. It’s basically all the opinions in this thread put together but by other people. We’ll worth 30 mins of your commute/sitting in lounge doing work.

Makes for pretty depressing hearing doesn't it?! Everyone knows he's not a good manager for us but yet we all know this has to play out until march at the absolute earliest and we limp on until the summer so by appointing him we have effectively written off the season.

 

[topper]

Rome wasn't built in a day *smug patronising grin*

True, but probably built in a shorter period than our wait for a meaningful trophy!

 

[Freddie]

Completely agree mate but issue we have is who could we get if we sacked Nuno.

I’m torn if the plan is to bring Poch back as sometimes managers returning for a 2nd spell can work well a la Jose came back to Chelsea and won them the league straight away.

Poch has a very very special relationship with our club, he’s by no means perfect and doesn’t always get it right but when we did for us was absolutely phenomenal and if he’d been backed more then he would’ve won us a very big major trophy. Levy does seem to have these obsessions like he always wanted to hire Jose, he always wanted to bring Bale back and now his plan is to bring Poch back. Considering there too many other top managers out there we can seemingly attract or want then we could do a lot worse then giving Poch another go, that being said I don’t think you should plan for someone to come back as part of your strategy and we should’ve focused on getting in a manager who can build a good project themselves e.g. Potter, Ten Haag, Rogers etc.

As it is we seemed to have hired almost a caretaker who is a terrible fit. But none of this surprises me with Levy unfortunately.

Wouldn't mind seeing a poll on here about how many would want Poch in next. Feelis like his popularity has waned slightly since the summer

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

He also led Rio Ave FC into the Europa League for the first time in their history.

Either way it's way more than Mason has ever achieved in his managerial 'career'.

thats not really an argument, as mason hasn’t had a managerial career.
Using the same logic I can say “mason has never been sacked, unlike nuno in his ‘career’.

 

[YB123]

View from the Lane is a good listen this week. It’s basically all the opinions in this thread put together but by other people. We’ll worth 30 mins of your commute/sitting in lounge doing work.

Think its slowly becoming one of the/if not the best Spurs related podcasts.

Gone off topic....Poch In.

 

[spursfan77]

I think the shambles goes back much farther than that.

You can trace it to poch saying painful rebuild , Levy ignored him and its snowballed from there.

I agree about nuno but I would say it is pretty urgent as this fanbase is becoming more and more fed up and its only a matter of time before it translates to the ground.

Whether it's poch, Potter or anyone else we need to act quicker

They’ll 100% be boos if we are losing at half and full time. Without doubt, why would there not be, it’s not without foundation. The football is shit.

 

[ntmac82]

If no one else is available (and it certainly doesn't look like anyone is available who a) Is better than Nuno and b) would actually want to come here), then we're better to stick for now.

As I keep pointing out, we have sacked 2 managers in the space of 15 Premier League games. That would be seen as pretty extreme even if we were 17th. But we're not.

It's not just about our "brand" to the fans, it's about our "brand" as an employer for other managers.

Fans would be equally as fed up if we gave Nuno the boot, replaced him with Ryan Mason and subsequently went backwards. Which is exactly what would happen.

Supporter impatience is not, at this point, justification for changing manager every 3 months until we find one the fans like.

Anyone better available? All the below are far better and more suited to Spurs yet we should stick with Nuno. We dont know if they would or wouldnt be interested (Fonseca excluded). Others who are employed would probably take the job under the right circumstances.

Favre
Valverde
Fonseca
Garcia

 

[wiggo24]

Fine by me.

Levy will then actually have to sit and think, rather than go "oh they liked that other bloke I sacked, let's get him back in".

I'm hoping that would lead to us going for Gerrard, Gallardo, Parker, or (and I can't believe I'm saying this) Potter.

Not that it matters because they won't go for Poch when they could go for Conte, Ten Hag, Zidane or Rodgers.

Agree with the idea but no idea how you've snuck Parker (and to a lesser extent Gerrard) into that list.

Parker did a thoroughly average job at Fulham playing some really quite negative football and whilst Gerrard would try to play some better stuff he's only been a manager for like three years.

I'd be absolutely delighted with either Gallardo or Potter though. Both slight risks of course but I think they're both top coaches and have shown that consistently for a while now.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Absolute scenes in here later if we don’t beat Burnley.

Who's gonna be surprised if that happens though?

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

losing to West Ham barely bothered me this season.

there algae been days (cutest, pacos, mura) where I’ve not noticed we were even playing that day.

the apathy is getting close to being terminal for me.

Autocorrect has had a field day with your post mate.

 

[freeeki]

Agree with the idea but no idea how you've snuck Parker (and to a lesser extent Gerrard) into that list.

Parker did a thoroughly average job at Fulham playing some really quite negative football and whilst Gerrard would try to play some better stuff he's only been a manager for like three years.

I'd be absolutely delighted with either Gallardo or Potter though. Both slight risks of course but I think they're both top coaches and have shown that consistently for a while now.

Parker's absolutely killing it with Bournemouth, they've only conceded 3 league goals since August - all in games they won regardless.

10 wins and 4 draws in 14 matches. And his squad really isn't that good.

He's certainly positioning himself as a manager to watch.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Probably a controversial opinion, but considering what has transpired since we may as well have stuck with Jose.

Fuck that. Aren't we defensive and dull enough as it is?

That **** would bore boredom.

 

[dagraham]

Fuck that. Aren't we defensive and dull enough as it is?

That **** would bore boredom.

Yes, we are, but that’s my point. Since then we’ve employed someone who’s never managed before and then after fucking about landed on another dour, defensive coach..... except this time one with no notable track record of managing big teams and the charisma of a door.

 

[SpursTillIDie1882]

All the time Nuno is manager it just feels like we are stuck in purgatory

Agree although it feels more like hell

 

[wiggo24]

Parker's absolutely killing it with Bournemouth, they've only conceded 3 league goals since August - all in games they won regardless.

10 wins and 4 draws in 14 matches. And his squad really isn't that good.

He's certainly positioning himself as a manager to watch.

He's doing a better job at Bournemouth but (a) the football still isn't the most entertaining (imo anyway!) and (b) I'm not sure that's a large enough sample size to have him anywhere near the likes of Gallardo, who's won everything there is to win in South America, or even Potter, who's got over a decade of managerial experience including over-performing in the Prem which Parker is yet to do.

For me Parker would only become a viable option if he promotes Bournemouth this season then has a season or two in the Prem where he not only keeps them up but plays decent football whilst doing it. Until then he's nowhere near the level of manager we should be going for (Nuno isn't at that level either fwiw).

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Yes, we are, but that’s my point. Since then we’ve employed someone who’s never managed before and then after fucking about landed on another dour, defensive coach..... except this time one with no notable track record of managing big teams and the charisma of a door.

Agree although it feels more like hell

Don't know if you've seen the film.

But we've got the managerial equivalent of Hacksaw Ridge.

 

[freeeki]

He's doing a better job at Bournemouth but (a) the football still isn't the most entertaining (imo anyway!) and (b) I'm not sure that's a large enough sample size to have him anywhere near the likes of Gallardo, who's won everything there is to win in South America, or even Potter, who's got over a decade of managerial experience including over-performing in the Prem which Parker is yet to do.

For me Parker would only become a viable option if he promotes Bournemouth this season then has a season or two in the Prem where he not only keeps them up but plays decent football whilst doing it. Until then he's nowhere near the level of manager we should be going for (Nuno isn't at that level either fwiw).

Perhaps, but then I guess it depends who's available and willing to manage us come the end of the season.

We're not the attractive proposition we were when we hired Jose.

 

[Dan Stallworthy]

Parker's absolutely killing it with Bournemouth, they've only conceded 3 league goals since August - all in games they won regardless.

10 wins and 4 draws in 14 matches. And his squad really isn't that good.

He's certainly positioning himself as a manager to watch.

Completely agree, Parker has done a fantastic job at Bournemouth so far and has got them playing great football. I think they're gonna run away with the league this season.
Been lucky enough to watch them play live a couple times this season, they're great to watch and you can see the players work their arses off for him, he isn't afraid to switch things up if things aren't going well either.

They're not even that much of a strong team on paper, just a well-drilled, hard-working team.

I definitely think we should be keeping a close eye on him.