FourFourTwo: 100 Best Players In The World
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Green Valley
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Terry against pace is worrying. Chelsea play so deep defensively and Essien protects him /the defence well. But when he's 1on1 against pace he fouls the player a high % of the time.
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Did you watch the CL final? The one where Iniesta was the best player on the pitch? He *is* better than C. Ronaldo in real terms (actual influence on games) - a much more intelligent and versatile footballer.
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Iniesta is a great player, one of the best in the world and yes I did see the ECL final.
Judging how good a player is doesn't go by one game, a week, or even one season. Iniesta is obv world class but C Ronaldo is better - better stats, commands a bigger transfer fee, do I need to go on...
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Giggs at 95 seems a little low? I still think he's world class.
And on the Terry v Vidic v Rio debate, I'd take our Ledley any day of the week. The first 3 are good players, but I've seen each get torn a new one at various times. I'm yet to see Ledley properly get ripped a new one despite playing with far less cover in front of him.
And on the Terry v Vidic v Rio debate, I'd take our Ledley any day of the week. The first 3 are good players, but I've seen each get torn a new one at various times. I'm yet to see Ledley properly get ripped a new one despite playing with far less cover in front of him.
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Bellamy and Heskey seemed to have done well against our King.
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Well seeing as Iniesta has always been at Barca he has never been transferred, so how would you know what his transfer fee might be? Barca would never sell him - that should speak volumes. Anyway transfer fee alone is a misleading way to judge a player as there have been plenty of instances of a player going for too high or too low a fee.
As for better stats, i presume you mean goals? Of course C. Ronaldo scores more, he plays in a more advanced role. Goals are of course a good indicator of quality but again, going on goal stats alone to judge player quality doesn't quite work. (If you went with assist stats Iniesta would surely come out on top).
And i don't judge Iniesta better because of one game, i have watched plenty of matches from both players and overall judge Iniesta to be a much more valuable player. The CL final was just one example of that.
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Better stats ? show me those stats. Ronaldo may score more goals - as he plays pretty much as a striker - but Iniesta's time on the ball stats, passing stats would absoloutely piss Ronaldo's. And for a midfielder they are what matters.
Iniesta and Ronaldo are, of course, different players. But Iniesta controls games, in fact, he is the game. Iniesta is the cake. Ronaldo is a fantastic cherry on top of the icing (that is Messi).
It is a similar comparison with Gerrard and Fabregas. Fabregas controls the game, dictates the tempo like a little conductor. Gerrard is just a great tuba player who wooshes in with the odd fanfare no and again.
Iniesta and Fabregas play with their brains, they are constantly thinking, scheming, moving, always wanting the ball. Without players like this the Ronaldo's and Gerrards don't get the glory.
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Season before last, CR was the best footballer I have ever seen play live. You simply could not stop him, and his stats that seaosn spoke for themselves. If he can do the same thing at Madrid then he will be a true legend.
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But it is different when you have no responsibility. To make football beautiful when you have the responsibility for making the whole team play is the greatest achievement in football.
To be an engine is vital, to be an asthetically pleasing engine room is the nirvana. Art and fuction. Phillipe Starck could not design a better fotballer than Iniesta.
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Iniesta and Fabregas are both fabulous players, but I don't understand why you look to slight Gerrard so. He has qualities so unique, that any country in the world (including Spain) would love to have him in their side. He may not have Iniesta's football brain, but he is a conductor in a different way, he enforces his will on Liverpool's big matches.
Every world class team needs both creative and finishing power, Iniesta and Fabregas are two of the best examples of the former, and Gerrard and Ronaldo are two of the finest exponents of the latter. All four are so good, that they can all turn their hands both parts of the game.
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I refer you too my answer above this post.
Just to add re Gerrard. There are days when Gerrard looks shit. (Most England performances for a start). Gerrard needs great players to carry him. Yes I know, once every ten games Gerrard will have a blinder and lift those around him, but his passing is hit and miss, ocasionally great occasionally piss poor (which is why Benitez doesn't trust him in cntral midfield).
Iniesta never, ever looks shit. For club or country.
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