Gareth Bale (Rumour to Deal Done)

[Mr Pink]

There's is only one reason why the odds have swung to him being odds on to leave. The media speculation has seriously intensified and joe blogs has reacted.

That's it. Nothing else.

I still think he's likely to stay.

As Val Yid said, Levy is different and there is not a chance Bale is going for anything else than mind blowing money.

I'd get my money on him staying now before there is another twist and the odds swing back the other way. If you're going to have a bet do it now.

 

[theShiznit]

Pleat says no formal offer made

Does that mean they dress money up in a suit?

 

[makeveli]

Pleat also said if it where a bid of 100 mill would be hard to say no, like utd did with ron

 

[easley91]

That's exactly how odds work

The suggestion is often that large amounts of money on something - ie a raft of big one-off bets in a short space of time rather than just total wagered - indicates somebody has information, but certainly not always the case

I may know more than I realize. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Mr Pink]

Pleat also said if it where a bid of 100 mill would be hard to say no, like utd did with ron

Everybody outside the close current circle of Levy is going to think that.

But Levy will have weighed up everything to the nth degree. I don't think many people will be able to anticipate what way Levy is going to judge all of this. Far too much involved.

At the end of the day people are just guessing. Levy is the one who will understand the full picture regarding this, and I mean the wider implications regarding everything going on at the Club at the moment ie Bale's commercial worth, the planning of the stadium, implications for naming rights.

There is literally a vast amount of variables and factors to consider in all this. We have struck gold with Bale and yes his stock is extremely high at the moment and I'm sure that will be considered carefully but ultimately Levy is the one who can gauge his true worth to us as he has all the information/expertise around him to do so.

Nobody else outside his team if you like has a clue IMO. But its going to be a massive sum if I were guessing, and I don't think 80 million even comes close.

I think he's staying.

 

[LeSoupeKitchen]

Some of it's different odds, I can't even remember, it's with different sites. £55 was 8/11 or something, then the rest was 11/10 or evens, so around £200

I piled in way back when the odds were terrible after itk on a new deal. £80 bet returns £28!

 

[mrlilywhite]

Everybody outside the close current circle of Levy is going to think that.

But Levy will have weighed up everything to the nth degree. I don't think many people will be able to anticipate what way Levy is going to judge all of this. Far too much involved.

At the end of the day people are just guessing. Levy is the one who will understand the full picture regarding this, and I mean the wider implications regarding everything going on at the Club at the moment ie Bale's commercial worth, the planning of the stadium, implications for naming rights.

There is literally a vast amount of variables and factors to consider in all this. We have struck gold with Bale and yes his stock is extremely high at the moment and I'm sure that will be considered carefully but ultimately Levy is the one who can gauge his true worth to us as he has all the information/expertise around him to do so.

Nobody else outside his team if you like has a clue IMO. But its going to be a massive sum if I were guessing, and I don't think 80 million even comes close.

I think he's staying.

I agree with everything here Mr Pink, This is a precarious situation for Levy and given the value of the situation you can bet your bottom dollar that Joe Lewis has made the club very much aware of the fallout for letting a prize asset go. You don't inject £50 million into the club and then let Bale go, What sort of message does that send out. Remain tight lipped and continue as usual and don't stoke the fire!!

 

[carpediem1906]

Where did you hear this mate?

Speak to anybody who followed them in Hong Kong - media events, match days, training, in hotel, while commuting etc..

 

[spurious1]

Everybody outside the close current circle of Levy is going to think that.

But Levy will have weighed up everything to the nth degree. I don't think many people will be able to anticipate what way Levy is going to judge all of this. Far too much involved.

At the end of the day people are just guessing. Levy is the one who will understand the full picture regarding this, and I mean the wider implications regarding everything going on at the Club at the moment ie Bale's commercial worth, the planning of the stadium, implications for naming rights.

There is literally a vast amount of variables and factors to consider in all this. We have struck gold with Bale and yes his stock is extremely high at the moment and I'm sure that will be considered carefully but ultimately Levy is the one who can gauge his true worth to us as he has all the information/expertise around him to do so.

Nobody else outside his team if you like has a clue IMO. But its going to be a massive sum if I were guessing, and I don't think 80 million even comes close.

I think he's staying.

I agree with all that. Bale might not be worth 80 or 100M as a footballer (who is?). But he is worth an awful lot as an asset. That is, the face of the PL all around the world wearing a Spurs shirt. His aid in making the club attractive, his aura giving us a bit more validity as a big club, etc....

But anyhow, everyone knows that. What no one, or perhaps a very few people, know is the number Levy the businessman has in his head. There is no such thing as "not for sale at any price". OF COURSE we all believe that our beloved itk's tell only the pure distilled truth from the inner echelons, but I would think this is the sort of thing Levy would discuss with really very few people, don't you? And leaking such information would certainly be grounds for dismissal if not criminal charges....unless they wanted some (mis)information to be leaked.

Another theory I like is that Levy and Perez have worked together here: Perez pretends to make ludicrous bids, thus placating the RL supporters, and Levy pretends to refuse the non-existent bids, thus earning the love of us Spurs supporters. Perez can say Levy is "just different" and move on to other targets. And in the end there might be anyhow some sort of agreement that when Bale goes, he goes to RM.

You might say that we would not pump in 50M if we are about to make 80-100M off Bale. But no one actually knows if we have put in 50M. Can just be misinformation, again.

There is also the issue of whether Bale as the face of the PL for the 13-14 season has some sort of contractual obligation to stay.

The real point though, is any of the above might be true. The only thing which is almost certainly not true, based on a long experience, is whatever is said in the papers, which is either made up or fed misinformation. Since we have absolutely no facts at our disposition it is pretty hard to speculate, isn't it. We don't know anything at all. Levy would be a pretty shit businessman, which he isn't, if he surrounded himself with a leaky bunch of clowns who let the world know every move he makes. You do not typically earn the confidence of Levy-like people who are making multi-million deals constantly, if you are such a buffoon.

 

[TheGreenLily]

I agree with everything here Mr Pink, This is a precarious situation for Levy and given the value of the situation you can bet your bottom dollar that Joe Lewis has made the club very much aware of the fallout for letting a prize asset go. You don't inject £50 million into the club and then let Bale go, What sort of message does that send out. Remain tight lipped and continue as usual and don't stoke the fire!!

... and then screw RM on the final day of the transfer windows with report to EUFA and a declaration to pursue it to an appropriate conclusion.

 

[danielneeds]

I wonder how AVB will play it with Bale? Does he side with Levy, or sympathise with Bale privately to keep their relationship close if he's still here when the window closes...

 

[easley91]

AVB's close relationship with Bale (despite the rumoured tension while in Hong Kong) should be enough to keep Bale's head focused for next season. Could do with him firing on all cylinders again with the additions of Paulinho, Chadli and soon Soldado.

 

[TheGreenLily]

I wonder how AVB will play it with Bale? Does he side with Levy, or sympathise with Bale privately to keep their relationship close if he's still here when the window closes...

I think AVB is angry, not with Bale but with RM. I think he has been told to keep quiet as Levy is planning on taking action. Hence the 150 million quote from the club. Levy is taking the piss now, just as much RM and stringing them a merry dance until a complaint is made.

As for the Bale side of things, I think he will deal with Bale appropriately as it is clear the Bale trusts his judgement and respects him. I think AVB is telling him you are making a mistake if you go to RM and keep him level headed and focused on his game.

 

[TheGreenLily]

Was initially optimistic... Then now hearing that both AVB and Bale weren't in good mood in Hong Kong (reasons unknown)... And plus Mido's tweet finally confirming that we are a tight arsed club when it comes to money makes me feel less optimistic tbh.

Only saving grace is real not being able to afford but when has it ever stopped them from spending..

Could be that RM lies, stories and overall general ****iness and the constant barrage of media speculation is getting to them.

 

[yojambo]

Who really benefits form the Bale saga?

The papers and the bookies.
Sky release stories that he's unsettled, loads of people put money on him to leave on SkyBet.

 

[pds999]

I just wonder whether AVB would rather have £85m+ to spend on his own players and actually sell Bale? That said, Madrid can't afford that figure so it's a moot point.

 

[theShiznit]

You could probably make money both ways if this article is correct.

Saying that Ladbrokes are offering 3/1 that Bale goes with a world record fee (currently £82m)
and back him to stay at Betfair so you win both ways. (assuming we don't then sell him for £8.60p with DL's famous add-ons)

edit, however, players added for exchange do not count towards the total fee. (which they have as £80m to beat the record)

 

[Geronimo897]

Who really benefits form the Bale saga?

The papers and the bookies. AGENTS.
Sky release stories that he's unsettled, loads of people put money on him to leave on SkyBet.

 

[mrlilywhite]

I agree with all that. Bale might not be worth 80 or 100M as a footballer (who is?). But he is worth an awful lot as an asset. That is, the face of the PL all around the world wearing a Spurs shirt. His aid in making the club attractive, his aura giving us a bit more validity as a big club, etc....

But anyhow, everyone knows that. What no one, or perhaps a very few people, know is the number Levy the businessman has in his head. There is no such thing as "not for sale at any price". OF COURSE we all believe that our beloved itk's tell only the pure distilled truth from the inner echelons, but I would think this is the sort of thing Levy would discuss with really very few people, don't you? And leaking such information would certainly be grounds for dismissal if not criminal charges....unless they wanted some (mis)information to be leaked.

Another theory I like is that Levy and Perez have worked together here: Perez pretends to make ludicrous bids, thus placating the RL supporters, and Levy pretends to refuse the non-existent bids, thus earning the love of us Spurs supporters. Perez can say Levy is "just different" and move on to other targets. And in the end there might be anyhow some sort of agreement that when Bale goes, he goes to RM.

You might say that we would not pump in 50M if we are about to make 80-100M off Bale. But no one actually knows if we have put in 50M. Can just be misinformation, again.

There is also the issue of whether Bale as the face of the PL for the 13-14 season has some sort of contractual obligation to stay.

The real point though, is any of the above might be true. The only thing which is almost certainly not true, based on a long experience, is whatever is said in the papers, which is either made up or fed misinformation. Since we have absolutely no facts at our disposition it is pretty hard to speculate, isn't it. We don't know anything at all. Levy would be a pretty shit businessman, which he isn't, if he surrounded himself with a leaky bunch of clowns who let the world know every move he makes. You do not typically earn the confidence of Levy-like people who are making multi-million deals constantly, if you are such a buffoon.

I don't think that we were looking to pump in £50 million because of the proposed Bale money, More so to do with using the money to reinforce our proposed ambition to keep Bale! You are right though no one knows factually if we have been given a loan by Lewis and afaik only Atlantayid has said this and I am not sure how good his ITK is? But one thing I am pretty certain about is that Joe Lewis is standing over Levy on this one and rightly so! This Bale business is something we as a club have never had to deal with and could have massive potential for us.

 

[marion52]

If Pleat says there hasn't been an offer how can Bale be distraught that we have turned it down?
RM are such big shit stirrers