Gareth Bale (Rumour to Deal Done)

[sweyid]

I don't doubt that's true for a minute, but many other factors come into play too. For example, why are Liverpool always shorter odds than we are for the league/ top 4, despite it being plainly obvious that we are a vastly better team than them? Reason- because they have a huge (and massively deluded) fan-base who put money on them each year, irrespective of how bad they are. The bookies would lose a fortune if they ever won the league. Likewise England at major tournaments- always around 9/2, 4/1 to win the bloody thing when we haven't got a hope in hell in reality, but if we ever did, the bookies would go broke due to people going with their hearts rather than their heads. Not sure how this relates to the Bale odds if I'm honest(!) but it's definitely true!

But you can't really get inside info on who'll win the PL or the WC though. Inside info is one factor, but it doesn't decide odds by itself. It can however reflect the odds, but when and how much is difficult to see from the outside.

 

[Viggspur]

Have all of us bet on Bale staying?! No wonder the odds have been slashed! Great to see he's staying (probably...hopefully...please!!) Only way I'd accept him leaving is if we asked RM for Cristiano + £20m for a new LB, seems fair to me!

 

[Third Kit '87]

Have all of us bet on Bale staying?! No wonder the odds have been slashed! Great to see he's staying (probably...hopefully...please!!) Only way I'd accept him leaving is if we asked RM for Cristiano + £20m for a new LB, seems fair to me!

I just put £20 on it but only got 7/4!

 

[Viggspur]

I just put £20 on it but only got 7/4!

So did I, Paddy Power 7/4, £20 then put on everything left in the account on Spurs Top4 finish. COYS!

 

[danielneeds]

BBC Sportsday 1915
FOOTBALL
Imminent Tottenham signing Roberto Soldado is hoping the club can keep hold of Real Madrid target Gareth Bale.

He told AS: "Bale is a great footballer and you can see the effort Tottenham are making to prevent him from leaving. Of course I want him to stay."

"Prevent him from leaving" is interesting, presumably he would have been given an update on the situation during talks.

 

[carpediem1906]

2 thoughts

1) (the warped one) - SC is an affiliate of betting sites, earning commission for bets - hence ITKs ding-dong type news.....

2) (the more sane one) - due to latest ITK and I'm sure many of you will have experienced this before as well.

You have an employee that has an offer to join a rival firm.
(i) If employee happy to stay, tell them (and the headhunter) to fuck off
(ii) If compensation is offered proactively, to ponder and consider. If offer is too good to turn down, deal.
(iii) If employee doesnt wish to stay, tell them to pay due (and more) compensation

seems like ITK is vacillating between (ii) and (iii), key factor being the offer on the table.

Like Mido said, it doesnt matter what the media spins or in a warped way, doesnt matter what bale / his agent really wants, if the offer is reasonable and acceptable, he will go (edit: levy will sell). else, suck it up.

The good news in all this is that madrid does not seem to be able to come up with an offer that levy will accept. BOTTOMLINE.

 

[carpediem1906]

in any case, have yet to see bale in training pics and vids... he's still injured in the buttocks?

 

[$hoguN]

BBC Sportsday 1915
FOOTBALL
Imminent Tottenham signing Roberto Soldado is hoping the club can keep hold of Real Madrid target Gareth Bale.

He told AS: "Bale is a great footballer and you can see the effort Tottenham are making to prevent him from leaving. Of course I want him to stay."

"Prevent him from leaving" is interesting, presumably he would have been given an update on the situation during talks.

Not really, as these quotes are likely to have been translated.

 

[Sweech]

in any case, have yet to see bale in training pics and vids... he's still injured in the buttocks?

I think Real tried to abduct and probe him.

 

[Blackrat1299]

I think Real tried to abduct and probe him.

More like A&C back scuttled him and told him to stay or he'll get more!!

 

[easley91]

I think Real tried to abduct and probe him.

What a pain in the arse that must've been..

 

[Austen Merritt]

I am very disappointed with the continued BBC coverage and reporting of the Gareth Bale saga. There are no quotes from either Tottenham or the player and information that would appear to emanate from Spain is being mindlessly regurgitated and I am disappointed that the BBC, noted for its news, would appear to be passing gossip on as if it were fact.

I have sent this message of complaint to the BBC and I await their response.

 

[Rupstoh]

I am very disappointed with the continued BBC coverage and reporting of the Gareth Bale saga. There are no quotes from either Tottenham or the player and information that would appear to emanate from Spain is being mindlessly regurgitated and I am disappointed that the BBC, noted for its news, would appear to be passing gossip on as if it were fact.

I have sent this message of complaint to the BBC and I await their response.

Can everyone take the emotion out of this (and the school holidays) and post sensible, constructive comments.

We bought a kid for £5m who had 4 crap seasons and 2 great ones and are now being offered a world record fee.

Which head-banger cannot see the sense in selling him now?

 

[DIEHARD]

Can everyone take the emotion out of this (and the school holidays) and post sensible, constructive comments.

We bought a kid for £5m who had 4 crap seasons and 2 great ones and are now being offered a world record fee.

Which head-banger cannot see the sense in selling him now?

That footballer became a commodity an asset ie more than just a footballer.. he became an advert for the Premier League. Thats what happened. He will bring us more money, greater global exposure and a greater chance of getting top four and beyond.

If he stays I am pretty sure he will sign a new contract. IF he has a shite season there is an issue in that we wouldnt get as much - its a gamble.

 

[Dundalk_Spur]

I am curious as to how the media circus will continue to play out in the coming days. I am furious about how this entire saga has been covered by the UK press, who seems delirious with glee at the idea of the best British player in the league leaving our shores. SSN has almost provoked me into smashing my TV up!! I'm guessing many of you feel the same. In reaction to this trash article 2 days ago (no quotes whatsoever) from the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23490932 , I wrote the following complaint to their website:

'This 'story' is an insult to tax-paying BBC customers. You brazenly and shamelessly claim that Gareth Bale has 'asked to leave Tottenham Hotspur' yet you provide no quotes or evidence for such a speculative and unsubstantiated assertion. I expect this kind of tabloid reporting for the gutter-press, but as the national broadcaster, you have certain journalistic standards to uphold. I am deeply alarmed at BBC Sport's transition into all-out tabloid territory, and I urge you to cease publishing such inane and baseless pieces, instead reverting back to a sound and reasoned coverage of Sports news. I await your response on this matter.'

I'm not saying this will prove a remotely useful or worthwhile thing to have done, but at least it made me feel better!!

I did the same thing, actually it reads a lot like yours, down to calling the BBC a tabloid that might as well set up a "Page 3" section on its site.

 

[Samson]

Can everyone take the emotion out of this (and the school holidays) and post sensible, constructive comments.

We bought a kid for £5m who had 4 crap seasons and 2 great ones and are now being offered a world record fee.

Which head-banger cannot see the sense in selling him now?

Would you accept 81 million split into 40 percent now, 20 percent in a year, 20 percent in two years and the final 20 percent in 2016? 32 million up front? Is that good sense?

 

[Austen Merritt]

Can everyone take the emotion out of this (and the school holidays) and post sensible, constructive comments.

We bought a kid for £5m who had 4 crap seasons and 2 great ones and are now being offered a world record fee.

Which head-banger cannot see the sense in selling him now?

That is not the point! I was making the point that the BBC were reporting gossip and not bona fide news! There are arguments for and against Bale staying, one of which is that our first team with Bale and the new players could very well challenge for trophies this season, certainly for top 4 and possibly even for the Prem. The argument for him going is that we would be paid a lot of money that could and probably would be used to good effect.
If you ask my opinion, then I would say that for the benefit of the club, he should stay as the ramifications of us losing him would be quite great from a media point of view. The money that will come in with him here will also be quite great through fans and sponsorship and perception.
I would also take your point about 4 crap seasons and two good ones and say that he wasn't crap in the first four seasons, he started off poor defensively and got better and when he was moved further forward he got better still. I would say that there has been a continued improvement in him.

 

[NYSpur]

Can everyone take the emotion out of this (and the school holidays) and post sensible, constructive comments.

We bought a kid for £5m who had 4 crap seasons and 2 great ones and are now (reportedly) being offered a world record fee.

Which head-banger cannot see the sense in selling him now?

It is not as simple as what you just said. Let me throw in some other possibilities... (see bold)

If the reports are true, and Gareth does want to go this deal will happen. That said, there are still plenty of explanations why it may not, including...

• Real Madrid does not have the money NOW or is unwilling to meet our price and pay a world record fee
• Gareth still wants to stay
• We may be able to profit more by keeping him and properly marketing him than we can by selling him...
  • stadium sponsorship
  • TV revenues
  • CL prize money
  • kit sponsorship
  • other sponsorships
  • brand awareness in new markets
  • market share in London if Spurs start playing CL an start winning over younger fans

Just saying while on the surface I would agree with you, there are so many things we don't know that are going on because nobody is being quoted.

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

Can everyone take the emotion out of this (and the school holidays) and post sensible, constructive comments.

We bought a kid for £5m who had 4 crap seasons and 2 great ones and are now being offered a world record fee.

Which head-banger cannot see the sense in selling him now?

I do not remember his four crap years. Those of us who saw him play at WHL and away saw his huge potential which became frustrated by his major injury and long recovery compounded by his growing into his frame and adapting his footballing ability to match.

What I would like to know is how we can heap abuse on the Talkshite presenters (namely the moose) who have become the Daily Sport with sensational headlines such as Elvis found alive on the moon.

Who listens to the crap radio station????

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

That is not the point! I was making the point that the BBC were reporting gossip and not bona fide news! There are arguments for and against Bale staying, one of which is that our first team with Bale and the new players could very well challenge for trophies this season, certainly for top 4 and possibly even for the Prem. The argument for him going is that we would be paid a lot of money that could and probably would be used to good effect.
If you ask my opinion, then I would say that for the benefit of the club, he should stay as the ramifications of us losing him would be quite great from a media point of view. The money that will come in with him here will also be quite great through fans and sponsorship and perception.

I would also take your point about 4 crap seasons and two good ones and say that he wasn't crap in the first four seasons, he started off poor defensively and got better and when he was moved further forward he got better still. I would say that there has been a continued improvement in him.

Have you ever thought that the media do not want Spurs to break into the top four and become a force to be reckoned with? How many times have you listened to or read the media who love to put us down? Especially the ex goons on sky.