Gareth Bale

[jt hotspur]

I'd actually disagree with you there. There are several, and almost all of them are far younger, on much lower wages, would cost less in transfer fees, and have a far better injury record. I can think of about 4 or 5 off the top of my head.

Bale only makes sense if he'll take a monstrous pay cut and if we figure the commercial boost will subsidise his transfer fee, which I think is far from a given versus a guy like Pulisic who really would pay for himself.

Then there's the injury record, the drastic loss of form, the fact that he's 28 and will unquestionably lose value even if he does perform for us. I just think it's too much of a risk and that too many of us are viewing this with our hearts rather than our heads.

If he wasn't already a Spurs legend there's no way any of us would think this a great deal.

Who are the 4 or 5 players that can do what bale does. If theres 5 players that can and they r cheaper and younger then buy them all and the club can make a small fortune then. Total nonsense on gareth bales ability. Players like bale dont grow on trees

 

[Spurs' Pipe Dreams]

As could Bale. Except he would cost a lot more and have no resale value.

Edit: You dont think he could flop or that he wouldn't have resale value?

The former is a distinct possibility for any player, especially ones who've been off form and injury prone for the past 2 years.

As for resale value, if we brought him in for say £65m and he did flop, how much do you think we could get for him? Another year older, clearly on the decline, proved his poor form at Real is more of a long term issue, or that his injuries will keep coming back.

Certainly no clubs in Spain would be after him, probably none on the continent. We're then faced with offloading to a PL rival, and even then on a cut price deal.

If Bale doesn't work out with us the risks are far higher than, say, with Martial or Pulisic.

That's just it, Bale wouldn't flop, he's proven in the PL, the CL and even on the international stage.

If you mean his injuries and that he could break down, that's a possibility for all players and if you look at how Pochettino coaches he manages his players better than anyone else in the world and doesn't push them too early. A Pochettino pre-season behind GB and we could have a 100% fit GB for a few seasons. Imagine that. One thing we know about GB is that he's a good trainer and that is what pushed him on to the next level, not unlike our own HK.

Do I expect Gareth to come to Tottenham, no. Do I hope he does, fuck yeah, your crazy if not.

Budget/smudget a genuine World Class player to come back to Tottenham at his prime is something any red-blooded Tottenham fan should be excited about, even if it is (pun intended) a pipe dream

 

[Hans Gruber]

Some people have lost all belief in life. I understand mate ....years of dissappointment and false dawns have made u so sad u want to protect yerself from gettin yer hopes up.

If it happens, and if he takes a wage cut to 1/4 of his salary in the process, over an inevitable offer from United, then I will be overjoyed but utterly utterly shocked.

It's not about my hopes or anything, as much as I would be thrilled to see Bale back if only for the emotional aspects. It's about being realistic, and seeing the facts for what they are. Maybe, maybe if we were a boyhood club or something, or he was best buds with half the squad. But how often does this sort of signing happen? Player choosing to return to former club on a cut priced fee? Er.. Rooney? Look how well that turned out, and even then he didn't have many other offers. That's all I've got.

 

[jt hotspur]

If it happens, and if he takes a wage cut to 1/4 of his salary in the process, over an inevitable offer from United, then I will be overjoyed but utterly utterly shocked.

It's not about my hopes or anything, as much as I would be thrilled to see Bale back if only for the emotional aspects. It's about being realistic, and seeing the facts for what they are. Maybe, maybe if we were a boyhood club or something, or he was best buds with half the squad. But how often does this sort of signing happen? Player choosing to return to former club on a cut priced fee? Er.. Rooney? Look how well that turned out, and even then he didn't have many other offers. That's all I've got.

Hans ...rooney v bale ...really ....no point to this debate

 

[spursfan77]

I think if this happens it will be completely out of the blue. One of those transfers that suddenly happens really quickly. I don't think it will though for the reasons covered a million times on here. One to watch though with hope over anything else. It would be the deadline day deal of all deadline day deals thats for sure.

 

[Hans Gruber]

That's just it, Bale wouldn't flop, he's proven in the PL, the CL and even on the international stage.

If you mean his injuries and that he could break down, that's a possibility for all players

That's like saying Rooney wouldn't flop at Everton, he was proven in the PL, CL, International, blah blah.

"But Rooney was on the decline." So is Bale. Or at least there's no guarrantee he's not and a lot of evidence to suggest he is.

"Bale wouldn't flop." Yeh, nor would Kaka at Real. Or Torres at Chelsea. Or Falcao at United. Or Pato. Or Schevchenko. Or Sergei Rebrov. Anyone can flop anywhere, regardless of whether you've played there before or what experience you've got. And its particularly ominious if you've been flopping for the past 2 years already.

"If you mean his injuries and that he could break down, that's a possibility for all players." Perhaps, but who is it more a possibility for, a guy who's perma-crocked or never been injured? There's a reason we're offloading Dembele and Wilshere's not going to the World Cup, and it's not because they're no good, it's because they're injury prone as fuck.

Look I'd love the Bale of 6 years ago back as much as the next guy, the only difference is that I've got my head out of the clouds and am seeing this potential transfer for what it is; a big risk with a lot of our money on a potentially-class-but-injury-prone guy that's been on the decline for the past 2 years.

 

[Hans Gruber]

Hans ...rooney v bale ...really ....no point to this debate

Yeh Rooney. Formerly in the top 3 players in the world behind Messi & Ronaldo. Top scorer of the largest football club on the planet and winner of pretty much every trophy there is to win, that Rooney. He may be a fat lump now but 3 years ago (when he was a year younger than Bale is now) he was unquestionably United and England's most dangerous player. But players decline. Especially ones who rely on their pace & athleticism.

 

[Spurs' Pipe Dreams]

That's like saying Rooney wouldn't flop at Everton, he was proven in the PL, CL, International, blah blah.

"But Rooney was on the decline." So is Bale. Or at least there's no guarrantee he's not and a lot of evidence to suggest he is.

"Bale wouldn't flop." Yeh, nor would Kaka at Real. Or Torres at Chelsea. Or Falcao at United. Or Pato. Or Schevchenko. Or Sergei Rebrov. Anyone can flop anywhere, regardless of whether you've played there before or what experience you've got. And its particularly ominious if you've been flopping for the past 2 years already.

"If you mean his injuries and that he could break down, that's a possibility for all players." Perhaps, but who is it more a possibility for, a guy who's perma-crocked or never been injured? There's a reason we're offloading Dembele and Wilshere's not going to the World Cup, and it's not because they're no good, it's because they're injury prone as fuck.

Look I'd love the Bale of 6 years ago back as much as the next guy, the only difference is that I've got my head out of the clouds and am seeing this potential transfer for what it is; a big risk with a lot of our money on a potentially-class-but-injury-prone guy that's been on the decline for the past 2 years.

Comparing Rooney and Bale

Rooney is one of the most overrated players there has ever been and could be argued (in fact I have) that he was on the decline once he turned 20. Comparing him to Wilshere, he's shit (comparably) and always has been, it's why Arsenal are getting rid.

Sign the Bale of 6 years ago, what when we sold him for £100m, do me a favour

Bale will be 29 soon that is a player in his prime, Dembele will soon be 31 and we will be selling him for circa £20-30m, think we'll get less for Bale in 2 years.....

The likelihood of us getting Bale is minimal but to say he isn't great and wouldn't improve our team and there are better players out there is bollocks

 

[dagraham]

Reading between the lines it seems we’d rather sign Martial than Bale.

Which seems fucking bonkers to me, but what do I know?

 

[jt hotspur]

Yeh Rooney. Formerly in the top 3 players in the world behind Messi & Ronaldo. Top scorer of the largest football club on the planet and winner of pretty much every trophy there is to win, that Rooney. He may be a fat lump now but 3 years ago (when he was a year younger than Bale is now) he was unquestionably United and England's most dangerous player. But players decline. Especially ones who rely on their pace & athleticism.

Rooney was the most media over inflated player in the last 20 years. Its up to u wether u bought into that nonsense but as for comparing rooney to everton with bale to spurs. R u serious ...has the bell not went for u to go back to class...

 

[Hans Gruber]

Comparing Rooney and Bale

Rooney is one of the most overrated players there has ever been and could be argued (in fact I have) that he was on the decline once he turned 20. Comparing him to Wilshere, he's shit (comparably) and always has been, it's why Arsenal are getting rid.

Sign the Bale of 6 years ago, what when we sold him for £100m, do me a favour

Bale will be 29 soon that is a player in his prime, Dembele will soon be 31 and we will be selling him for circa £20-30m, think we'll get less for Bale in 2 years.....

The likelihood of us getting Bale is minimal but to say he isn't great and wouldn't improve our team and there are better players out there is bollocks

Yeh you're doing what you did last time - you're seeing a name like Wilshere or Bale and spontaneously inventing an argument in your head, like me saying "Wilshere's as good as Bale" or "Rooneys as good as Bale" or some other crap that you feel like arguing against. In fact I could literally pick out any sentence from your post and it would make no sense in regards to what I was saying. "Sign the Bale of 6 years ago, what when we sold him for £100m, do me a favour" What does that even mean? How is it relevant? It's complete jibberish.

"The likelihood of us getting Bale is minimal but to say he isn't great and wouldn't improve our team and there are better players out there is bollocks" Find me the quote of where I've refuted any of the above. I'll wait.

 

[Hans Gruber]

...has the bell not went for u to go back to class...

Has the bell not... went.. for u to go back to class.

I wasn't gonna bother replying but the irony of this line is just too perfect not to.

(By the way if you're not sure what irony means fire me a PM and I'll help you out)

 

[PhezTHFC]

And are u sure u support spurs and not utd

Your replying to your own comment

 

[jt hotspur]

And are u sure u support spurs and not utd

Aha u r a utd man on here trying to talk the yids outta wanting him so he signs for utd ..." the greatest club in the world" wtf

Comparing Rooney and Bale

Rooney is one of the most overrated players there has ever been and could be argued (in fact I have) that he was on the decline once he turned 20. Comparing him to Wilshere, he's shit (comparably) and always has been, it's why Arsenal are getting rid.

Sign the Bale of 6 years ago, what when we sold him for £100m, do me a favour

Bale will be 29 soon that is a player in his prime, Dembele will soon be 31 and we will be selling him for circa £20-30m, think we'll get less for Bale in 2 years.....

The likelihood of us getting Bale is minimal but to say he isn't great and wouldn't improve our team and there are better players out there is bollocks

Spurs pipe dreams ...spot on ...honestly mate i think we are replying to a utd supporter. Check out his posts lol

 

[jt hotspur]

Your replying to your own comment

I should have edited and added. Got caught in the moment

 

[Hans Gruber]

Aha u r a utd man on here trying to talk the yids outta wanting him so he signs for utd ..." the greatest club in the world" wtf

Spurs pipe dreams ...spot on ...honestly mate i think we are replying to a utd supporter. Check out his posts lol

Yeh I'm a Utd fan, well done Sherlock.

You're still replying to your own posts btw

 

[TwoSaintsComeMarching]

Also the commercial value of Bale cannot be underestimated. And even if we get two seasons out of him he still would fetch a huge price tag from the MLS or the Chinese Super League.

 

[jt hotspur]

Yeh I'm a Utd fan, well done Sherlock.

You're still replying to your own posts btw

sure as long as your seeing them

 

[Riandor]

Sorry, but to suggest Bale is in the Neymar bracket is laughable. In wages paid, perhaps.

In terms of quality, Neymar is unquestionably in the top 5 players in the world and has been consistently so for the past 5 years. Bale can't even get in the Real team ahead of Lucas Vazquez. There's a reason they're rumoured to be offloading one and chasing the other.

As for Lewandowski, not sure why he's mentioned as he's in an entirely different position, and even then he's 30 and on the decline.

As for the players that could improve our attack, I mean we're strongly rumoured to be after 2 or 3 right now so it shouldn't be too hard to figure out who I'm talking about.

I don't find it laughable at all.
Bale doesn't fit in at Real Madrid due to Ronaldo, and has had his inury problems, but he is an absolute match winner and I am not convinced Neymar at Real will be afforded any more luxuries than Bale was, not until Ronaldo is prepared to hang up his boots.

As for Lewandowski, he and Neymar both Play in the Forwards role (Neymar 10, Lew. 9, Bale 11), so why not the comparison? I agree Lewandowski is on his way out though.

 

[Hans Gruber]

Hans ...rooney v bale ...really ....no point to this debate

Ok then, find me another player who's decided to join his former club for lower wages than he could have gotten elsewhere?

My point of bringing up Rooney was to suggest that it doesnt often happen. Which it doesn't. He's pretty much the only one I can think of. But for some reason you've seen the word "Rooney" and invented some imaginary discussion where I've said 'Rooney is better than Bale' or some other such nonsense and are now trying to convince everyone I must be a United fan because I (1) mentioned a United player & (2) I'm not wanking myself silly at the idea of blowing our budget on Bale, which I must admit is actually pretty foolproof logic.