Gareth Bale

[Hans Gruber]

I don't find it laughable at all.
Bale doesn't fit in at Real Madrid due to Ronaldo, and has had his inury problems, but he is an absolute match winner and I am not convinced Neymar at Real will be afforded any more luxuries than Bale was, not until Ronaldo is prepared to hang up his boots.

As for Lewandowski, he and Neymar both Play in the Forwards role (Neymar 10, Lew. 9, Bale 11), so why not the comparison? I agree Lewandowski is on his way out though.

You're comparing your idea of Bale - along with some random theories on why it hasn't worked for him at Real - with the reality of Neymar, someone who's been in the top 3 or 4 for the Ballon d'Or for the past 5 years.

Again, Bale, who Real are willing to get rid of in his supposed prime for £20m less than they bought him, or Neymar, who Real are reportedly willing to fork out £250m to replace him.

So sorry but, yes, unless we see actual proof that Bale is still capable of performing at Neymar's level, it is laughable.

As for Lewandowski, yeh him and Bale are both forwards in the same way Son and Kane are both forwards. But if discussing players you could replace Kane with you'd never mention Son, hence why the comparison is pointless.

 

[jt hotspur]

Ok then, find me another player who's decided to join his former club for lower wages than he could have gotten elsewhere?

My point of bringing up Rooney was to suggest that it doesnt often happen. Which it doesn't. He's pretty much the only one I can think of. But for some reason you've seen the word "Rooney" and invented some imaginary discussion where I've said 'Rooney is better than Bale' or some other such nonsense and are now trying to convince everyone I must be a United fan because I (1) mentioned a United player & (2) I'm not wanking myself silly at the idea of blowing our budget on Bale, which I must admit is actually pretty foolproof

 

[PhezTHFC]

Ok then, find me another player who's decided to join his former club for lower wages than he could have gotten elsewhere?

My point of bringing up Rooney was to suggest that it doesnt often happen. Which it doesn't. He's pretty much the only one I can think of. But for some reason you've seen the word "Rooney" and invented some imaginary discussion where I've said 'Rooney is better than Bale' or some other such nonsense and are now trying to convince everyone I must be a United fan because I (1) mentioned a United player & (2) I'm not wanking myself silly at the idea of blowing our budget on Bale, which I must admit is actually pretty foolproof logic.

Without sounding like a prick. Why are you on a spurs forum discussing Tottenham transfers if your a United fan
Am all for discussion just curious

 

[PhezTHFC]

@jt hotspur you seriously need to work out how to use this site mate. Replying to your own comments all the time

 

[Hans Gruber]

Without sounding like a prick. Why are you on a spurs forum discussing Tottenham transfers if your a United fan
Am all for discussion just curious

Is this genuine?

 

[PhezTHFC]

Is this genuine?

 

[Trix]

Comparing Rooney and Bale

Rooney is one of the most overrated players there has ever been and could be argued (in fact I have) that he was on the decline once he turned 20. Comparing him to Wilshere, he's shit (comparably) and always has been, it's why Arsenal are getting rid.

Sign the Bale of 6 years ago, what when we sold him for £100m, do me a favour

Bale will be 29 soon that is a player in his prime, Dembele will soon be 31 and we will be selling him for circa £20-30m, think we'll get less for Bale in 2 years.....

The likelihood of us getting Bale is minimal but to say he isn't great and wouldn't improve our team and there are better players out there is bollocks

3 things...

Firstly Rooney's record is excellent for over 10 years in the top flight and Europe.
Secondly Arsenal have been doing everything they can to keep Wilshire for the past 12 months.
Thirdly this is not the place to be discussing the merits or failings of either of them.

 

[Hans Gruber]

Careful mate, you're looking suspiciously like a Utd fan with all that talk of Rooney's achievements.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Yeh Rooney. Formerly in the top 3 players in the world behind Messi & Ronaldo. Top scorer of the largest football club on the planet and winner of pretty much every trophy there is to win, that Rooney. He may be a fat lump now but 3 years ago (when he was a year younger than Bale is now) he was unquestionably United and England's most dangerous player. But players decline. Especially ones who rely on their pace & athleticism.

Sorry but I'm just not having that. Rooney has NEVER been behind only Messi & Ronaldo. He was decent, but has never been spectacular. Only our hyperbolic press and the gullible fuckwits who swallow their constant bullshit have ever believed the hype that Rooney somehow created.

Yeah, for a 16 year old lad he scored a decent goal against Arseanal (cheers for that) and he scored a couple of goals from near the half way lone for United & Everton respectively, but I genuinely do not see anything that has ever put him even close to players like Ronaldo & especially Messi.

 

[Nerine]

The only real way to settle this is to sign him on Football Manager and see how he does, I guess.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Ok then, find me another player who's decided to join his former club for lower wages than he could have gotten elsewhere?

My point of bringing up Rooney was to suggest that it doesnt often happen. Which it doesn't. He's pretty much the only one I can think of. But for some reason you've seen the word "Rooney" and invented some imaginary discussion where I've said 'Rooney is better than Bale' or some other such nonsense and are now trying to convince everyone I must be a United fan because I (1) mentioned a United player & (2) I'm not wanking myself silly at the idea of blowing our budget on Bale, which I must admit is actually pretty foolproof logic.

Just the one player? Ok, David Luiz when he returned to Chel$ki from PSG

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

Rooney was fucking brilliant from about 2004 through to 2012. Rooney and Ronaldo together were absolutely incredible, and then Rooney hit 34 goals twice in the three seasons after Ronaldo left. Absolutely key figure in a side which won 5 leagues in 7 seasons. Yes he dropped off far earlier than most players do (aged ~27), but to say in his peak he wasn’t absolutely phenomenal is just silly.

 

[Spurs' Pipe Dreams]

3 things...

Firstly Rooney's record is excellent for over 10 years in the top flight and Europe.
Secondly Arsenal have been doing everything they can to keep Wilshire for the past 12 months.
Thirdly this is not the place to be discussing the merits or failings of either of them.

Rooney's record is terrible (comparatively) he's scored over 20 league goals a season twice in his career and he's playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world, his international record is just under a goal every other game, most top quality strikers are well above that.

I am guilty of hyperbole with Rooney as I believe that he never improved as a player from when he burst onto the scene as a teenager, that's my opinion and the stats don't add up to one of the greatest strikers in/for England either, Kane has just banged in 30 league goals in a season, Rooney never managed that (27 best). Kane has 108 top flight goals in 150 appearances, Rooney managed 208 in almost 500. The press loved him and would build him up and knock him down continuously, for me he was a very good player, was great at points but never top quality.

Don't get me started on Cantona

 

[Hans Gruber]

Just the one player? Ok, David Luiz when he returned to Chel$ki from PSG

I said for less money than he could have gotten elsewhere. Try again.

 

[Hans Gruber]

Rooney's record is terrible (comparatively) he's scored over 20 league goals a season twice in his career and he's playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world, his international record is just under a goal every other game, most top quality strikers are well above that.

I am guilty of hyperbole with Rooney as I believe that he never improved as a player from when he burst onto the scene as a teenager, that's my opinion and the stats don't add up to one of the greatest strikers in/for England either, Kane has just banged in 30 league goals in a season, Rooney never managed that (27 best). Kane has 108 top flight goals in 150 appearances, Rooney managed 208 in almost 500. The press loved him and would build him up and knock him down continuously, for me he was a very good player, was great at points but never top quality.

Don't get me started on Cantona

Comes down to whether you watch the games or just the stats.

Rooney was never an out-and-out like, say, Van Nistelrooy so it's pointless to compare him on purely goals scored. It's like looking at Sheringham or Bergkamps stats and deciding they were similarly shit because they didn't dispatch as many as Kane.

Rooney was the best attacking player for the best team in the division from 08-12, and then through their post Fergie decline up until about 2 years ago.

 

[Lilbaz]

Fuck off rooney.

 

[Hoopspur]

My God - I thought there was something interesting going on with this thread!

 

[Spurs' Pipe Dreams]

Comes down to whether you watch the games or just the stats.

Rooney was never an out-and-out like, say, Van Nistelrooy so it's pointless to compare him on purely goals scored. It's like looking at Sheringham or Bergkamps stats and deciding they were similarly shit because they didn't dispatch as many as Kane.

Rooney was the best attacking player for the best team in the division from 08-12, and then through their post Fergie decline up until about 2 years ago.

Please, I've probably watched many more games of football than most. Stats don't lie, that's why they're stats, Rooney's assist record wasn't great either. Scholes was a much better footballer and better behind the striker.

Rooney was overrated that's nothing to get your knickers in a twist about, just because he was English the press and broadcasters built him up. Sadly he never lived up to his potential and that's how I see it

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I said for less money than he could have gotten elsewhere. Try again.

Well I can't even think of an occasion where the possibility has been around before

 

[Lilbaz]

Guy's this is the bale thread. Go to general football if you want to talk about rooney.