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Give Bent the credit he deserves.

spurious1

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Lots of people appear to think Bent is rubbish. Bent has one of the highest goal/minutes ratios in the prem. Reconcile that fact to him being crap. Get some perspective. If you say "Bent is not a good a striker as Pele", ok fair enough, but people consistently scoring goals in the prem can not, possibly, be crap. Bent is not a fancypants Berbatov, but he puts them in the net, as per his job description. And his attitude appears to be irreprochable.
 

Petyr

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I predicted before the season that Bent will outscore most big name strikers in the Prem and I don't see any reason to not stick to my prediction.
 

Doctor Who

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Bent is a consumator not a creator , all the team works for him , watch some Berba for Man Utd . He created like 10 pure goalscoring opotunities for his teammates , and got 2 himself , the people count only the goals not the contribution for the team , get some team perspective for every player pls
 

robbiesavagehasbreasts

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May 23, 2007
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Against Bolton. Came on and won a penalty which he scored from as well.

Against Arsenal. Came on and scored.

Against Liverpool. Won a corner with brilliant play, and we ended up equalizing from that corner. Made the winning-goal.

That's for you Doctor Who. You have failed with your "doesn't contribute anything to the team." And that's just his last 3 games.
 

Rackybear

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Aug 10, 2008
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Bent will score you goals - providing he gets the supply from the midfield.

He had murphy at charlton, and now what looks like to be Modric at spurs.

The question is not if he is good enough for spurs, but can we continue to rely on our midfield to help create chances for him, is that too much of a risk?

People know about our midfield, inconsistent written all over it. JJ,Zokora & Lennon have gone through their fair share of spells being quality one game to being piss poor for the next 4 or 5. We got away with it to some extent with berba and keane because they created enough goals between themselves let alone having to rely on service from the midfield. Problem is - can/will we get away with it with Bent up front?

The answer is no, because he does not make things happen from nothing, he will not pull off a crazy bit of skill to swing the game or do anything relatively match winning, he wont even hold the ball up well enough to allow the midfield to be some sort of threat - but he will score you goals given the service.

Bent is top notch, but at a club like spurs when the chips are down and you have a midfield that can be as poor as ours at times, we need a striker who can finish and create - so we dont get hurt and fail to win a game if our midfield suddenly decides to have a bad match.

Berbatov was the ideal player, he'd score goals for fun, create goals for fun, and link up play between attack and midfield as if he was running the show (which he did at times). Now we have Bent, who possesses only Berbatovs quality to finish with other attributes such as speed, effort and make runs - but nothing else.

Basically, we need a more complete player.
 

laneoflegends

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I wouldn't mind seeing a goals per minute comparison between Bent and a few of the other top class strikers in the league if anyone has these figure?
 

Kendall

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Bent is a consumator not a creator , all the team works for him , watch some Berba for Man Utd . He created like 10 pure goalscoring opotunities for his teammates , and got 2 himself , the people count only the goals not the contribution for the team , get some team perspective for every player pls

Nobody is saying Bent is as good as Berbatov are they? they're saying give him some fucking credit for doing his job as a striker.

Berbatov is worth over £30m for a reason, there's not many like him around.
 

mil1lion

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Lets face it, we were very lucky to have Keane and Berbatov at their peak. Until we're in the Champions League, we'll struggle to get World Class players. Bent is plenty good enough for this Spurs team. And he'll be a lot better for us under Harry, than he was under Juande. You can already see his confidence has shot up. And when he's flowing with confidence, he really is a very very good player. He's scored at Stamford Bridge and at the Emirates this season. Not many players do that in one season. And he always gives 100%. So whether you rate him or not, at least you know what you're going to get with him.
 

SpurSince57

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Bent is a consumator not a creator , all the team works for him , watch some Berba for Man Utd . He created like 10 pure goalscoring opotunities for his teammates , and got 2 himself , the people count only the goals not the contribution for the team , get some team perspective for every player pls

I watched him plenty enough at Spurs, thanks very much.
 

thfc_2004

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BUT NOTHING! He made that goal for Pav today!
He also won the corner for our equaliser by digging out that cross when the ball looked set to go out.

Hopefully its an area of his game Bent can improve upon even further.
 

Khilari

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Jun 19, 2008
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i don't rate bent BUT he's been doing the business whatever way for us despite us playing poorly

his defending scares me though. he's as lethal at the opposition's goalmouth as he is when he's on our front post defending corners. that was his 3rd complete miskick of the season, one which has led to a goal, the other two not... liability defending - stick him on the halfway line at corners, not on our front stick!!
 

Kendall

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I wouldn't mind seeing a goals per minute comparison between Bent and a few of the other top class strikers in the league if anyone has these figure?

Bent
Avg Goal Mins When Starting 37.9

Adebayor
Avg Goal Mins When Starting 36.6

Ronaldo
Avg Goal Mins When Starting 44.0

Torres
Avg Goal Mins When Starting 46.7
 

piedpiper

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i don't rate bent BUT he's been doing the business whatever way for us despite us playing poorly

his defending scares me though. he's as lethal at the opposition's goalmouth as he is when he's on our front post defending corners. that was his 3rd complete miskick of the season, one which has led to a goal, the other two not... liability defending - stick him on the halfway line at corners, not on our front stick!!

agree he is lethal when defending, Mido on the other hand handled this aspect of his game with some good blocks and accomplished defending.
 

ultimateloner

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Bent is average and we have paid over the odds for him.

He gets goals - but not important ones. He isn't someone we could base our game around. He would score goals given chances, but at 16.5m you would expect someone who could play on his own AND create chances. The problem is he fails both.

Strikers such as Berba are great because they create and score consistently. Keane is a good striker because he at least could play on his own.

Bent can't so he doesn't live up to the standards we require, which is for a top 4/5 league finish.
 

jrio

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Bent is average and we have paid over the odds for him.

He gets goals - but not important ones. He isn't someone we could base our game around. He would score goals given chances, but at 16.5m you would expect someone who could play on his own AND create chances. The problem is he fails both.

Strikers such as Berba are great because they create and score consistently. Keane is a good striker because he at least could play on his own.

Bent can't so he doesn't live up to the standards we require, which is for a top 4/5 league finish.
Bent didn't set his own fee and he can't be judged on that. His abilities and deficiences were well-known before he joined us.

Regarding the expected league finish, you've obviously not found time to read Super Dan's latest memo. :wink:
 

robbiesavagehasbreasts

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May 23, 2007
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Bent is average and we have paid over the odds for him.

He gets goals - but not important ones. He isn't someone we could base our game around. He would score goals given chances, but at 16.5m you would expect someone who could play on his own AND create chances. The problem is he fails both.

Strikers such as Berba are great because they create and score consistently. Keane is a good striker because he at least could play on his own.

Bent can't so he doesn't live up to the standards we require, which is for a top 4/5 league finish.

Explain to me what goals are important?

Because if equalizing against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge isn't important I might as well quit watching football.
 

Mullers

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Bent is average and we have paid over the odds for him.

He gets goals - but not important ones. He isn't someone we could base our game around. He would score goals given chances, but at 16.5m you would expect someone who could play on his own AND create chances. The problem is he fails both.

Strikers such as Berba are great because they create and score consistently. Keane is a good striker because he at least could play on his own.

Bent can't so he doesn't live up to the standards we require, which is for a top 4/5 league finish.
Last year we finished 11th with Berbastrop and Keane in the team so I guess they don't live up to those standards either neither does anyone else in the side.:-|
 

Bristol Coys

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Bent is average and we have paid over the odds for him.

He gets goals - but not important ones. He isn't someone we could base our game around. He would score goals given chances, but at 16.5m you would expect someone who could play on his own AND create chances. The problem is he fails both.

Strikers such as Berba are great because they create and score consistently. Keane is a good striker because he at least could play on his own.Bent can't so he doesn't live up to the standards we require, which is for a top 4/5 league finish.

Against Liverpool, Bent put over a great cross from the left byline leaving the defender for dead with his weaker foot, shame Pav was not there for easy finish. Created a fairly important goal for Pav in injury time, I feel.

I am led to believe that the price tag oft quoted is false. Regardless, he did not pick the price. He came to us when WHAM offered him more money.

Scored against Chelsea and Arsenal. Precisely which IMPORTANT games is he doing badly in?
 

ultimateloner

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You could pick each word/sentence in my post and put it out of context, but i think most of you would agree with the overall gist.

Bent's adequate as a 3rd/4th choice striker but doesn't have the class to be a starting striker in a top 4/5 club.

Can't play on his own - agree?
Can't create - agree?

We should be aiming for at least a top 5 finish. We have under-achieved last season and still under-achieving. Our players need to have that quality and for me, Bent doesn't have it.
 
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