Player Gleison Bremer

[allpaths]

That is harsh mate. Dier was my player of the season for us last year.

U want to win trophies u gotta be ruthless to an extent. It also comes down to whether how much you value diers organizational skills, vs Bremer elite athletically prowess.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

I’m dreaming with Bremer + Ndicka, PLEASE GOD

Alright, calm down with your sex moans

 

[cider spurs]

Absolutely monster of a defender. Yes, he could maybe improve his passing a little, but make no mistake, this lad is excellent in defensive aspects of his game.

Very good at ball recovery, interceptions. Strong, fast.

Absolute beast.

I'll let Conte worry as to where and how we play him should he land at Spurs.

He smashed some of the stats last season in Serie A by a country mile.

MOTM when up against Martinez,Vlahovic and...lol...Giroud.

Similar in style to Romero, maybe. But I'll settle for all the hard bastards. Bissouma just ahead also.

Soft underbelly Spurs.

You feckin reckon, we'll mash it up.

 

[SecretLemonadeDrinker]

I'm not saying Bremer is bad, but I think we need a left footed CB.

If we buy Bremer, it's quite likely that that will be in addition to signing an LCB.

 

[PaulThurston]

Davies / DIer / Romero.

Sorry but our backine stands out like a sore thumb but not in a good way. That isn't an elite defence.

Perhaps not, but it was a pretty effective one by the end of last season. If Fabs can improve it then marvellous.

 

[Aphex]

Perhaps not, but it was a pretty effective one by the end of last season. If Fabs can improve it then marvellous.

It was effective, but I feel that was more a system thing. Now upgrade the parts of that system with better individual quality and what do you get....

At the end of the day neither davies or dier would get into the top 2's first 11, that is the level we need to reach.

 

[GetSpurredOn]

Dier is a strange one for me. Our defense was much improved at the end of the season but given his position he was a bit invisible for me.

The tearing hair out moments were gone but I also didn't notice him doing much outstanding. I really did forget he was out there much of the time. But I guess that can be a good thing for a defender.

There’s invisible in a good way, and invisible in a bad way. The latter, being absent or wildly out of position when attackers are ghosting into space, is a massive worry. However, if they are invisible because you just don’t see them having to constantly make blocks and clearances, that for me is a sign the system as a whole is working and there is no need for showreel recoveries. I like that version.

 

[wiggo24]

It was effective, but I feel that was more a system thing. Now upgrade the parts of that system with better individual quality and what do you get....

At the end of the day neither davies or dier would get into the top 2's first 11, that is the level we need to reach.

Bremer isn't an upgrade on the LCB or CCB parts of the system though because he doesn't fit the requirements for a LCB in a Conte system.

Liverpool don't just randomly sign the best players in the world, they sign players who fit exactly with what they'll be required to do in positions of need. Our defence lacks the ability to play under pressure, the ability to. be progressive against low blocks, and lacks balance as we've got 3 RCBs and 1 LCB. As good as he is, Bremer solves none of these issues.

 

[JCRD]

I'm really not sure Dier is a great defender though to be honest with you. I think Dier and Davies were really helped out by the organisation and system that Conte has implemented, but there were numerous times last season where Dier and Davies, made really careless mistakes that could and should have been punished by the opposition. Mistakes that elite defenders just don't make.

Davies and Dier are both upgradeable if you want to win and challenge the elite. Look at Liverpool and City, do you really think Davies and Dier would start regularly for them? If not, why not? The only answer is because they aren't good enough on an individual level.

VVD / Konate / Matip

Dias / Laporte / Stones

Davies / DIer / Romero.

Sorry but our backine stands out like a sore thumb but not in a good way. That isn't an elite defence.

Perhaps he isnt but it works. You mention system, give me system over three world class/great players anyday. Look at PSG with their world class/great players, but if the system fails, then no matter how great players are, it wont be a success. In Liverpool and Man City - I wouldnt say Matip and Stones are great players but they work in their respective systems and they work with those who theyre partnering.

Im a big believer of partnerships all over the place. PEH and Bentancur arent world class but in that midfield, they work together. Kulu isnt world class, but he works with Kane and Son.

I think we get fixated by the likes of a Bastoni when infact what we need are players who will fit the system. I think Davies and Dier and Romero together work in that system and that is no bad thing. Theyre a defence which didnt concede much to two of the best attacking teams in world football.

I absolutely think we need to strengthen at the back but more replacing the likes of Rodon and Tanganga with a couple of players who can step into that back three on a rotation basis.

 

[wiggo24]

Perhaps he isnt but it works. You mention system, give me system over three world class/great players anyday. Look at PSG with their world class/great players, but if the system fails, then no matter how great players are, it wont be a success. In Liverpool and Man City - I wouldnt say Matip and Stones are great players but they work in their respective systems and they work with those who theyre partnering.

Im a big believer of partnerships all over the place. PEH and Bentancur arent world class but in that midfield, they work together. Kulu isnt world class, but he works with Kane and Son.

I think we get fixated by the likes of a Bastoni when infact what we need are players who will fit the system. I think Davies and Dier and Romero together work in that system and that is no bad thing. Theyre a defence which didnt concede much to two of the best attacking teams in world football.

I absolutely think we need to strengthen at the back but more replacing the likes of Rodon and Tanganga with a couple of players who can step into that back three on a rotation basis.

I agree with everything but TBF I think the obsession with Bastoni is essentially because he does fit straight into the system. Same with Gvardiol. Aggressive defensively, left-footed, capable of overlapping and underlapping the LWB, progressive from deep, composed under pressure. Bremer doesn't fit so I agree with your overall argument completely but Bastoni would actually have been a good example of recruiting upgrades who still work in the same system, like how Liverpool and Brentford recruit.

 

[arunspurs]

I am still not convinced we will land Bremer - not a case of money.

With Bremer, Question seems not work permit to UK but his intention to play for Italy.
If his wife passport application goes through and he stays in Italy this season, then he completes his residency requirement (5 years), which makes him eligible to play for Italy in 2023.
I dont know if there are exceptions and special cases that can be made.

I think it comes down to
a) can we find a solution to get him Italian Passport satisfying FIFA
b) Or can we convince to give up his Italian dream.

May be we have a solution - who knows. But this is why Inter still seem super confident to land him

 

[glacierSpurs]

If I may, in all honesty, I think we should really calm down, until Bremer or some other top class CBs are signed before we chide Dier and Davies who have been more than excellent for us last season to see us into CL this season. Some of the non-existing credits given to them are astonishing...

 

[SambaSpurs]

Just seems like an outstanding defender, which is the most important thing by far for me in the back 3.

Can people that have watched more of him explain how he compares with Rudiger. I don’t think Rudiger is anything more than an average passer but he drives forward with the ball very well - is Bremer similar in that regard?

 

[Aphex]

If I may, in all honesty, I think we should really calm down, until Bremer or some other top class CBs are signed before we chide Dier and Davies who have been more than excellent for us last season to see us into CL this season. Some of the non-existing credits given to them are astonishing...

But this is the transfer forum and the club is clearly trying to upgrade our CBs....nobody is not giving them credit.

 

[allpaths]

If I may, in all honesty, I think we should really calm down, until Bremer or some other top class CBs are signed before we chide Dier and Davies who have been more than excellent for us last season to see us into CL this season. Some of the non-existing credits given to them are astonishing...

I think we can both appreciate their solid level of performance last season and recognize if we want to maximize the rest of son's and Kane's spurs career we need to be aggressive as possible in building a proper squad to challenge. And I'm a massive ben Davies fan by the way.

 

[Aphex]

Bremer isn't an upgrade on the LCB or CCB parts of the system though because he doesn't fit the requirements for a LCB in a Conte system.

Liverpool don't just randomly sign the best players in the world, they sign players who fit exactly with what they'll be required to do in positions of need. Our defence lacks the ability to play under pressure, the ability to. be progressive against low blocks, and lacks balance as we've got 3 RCBs and 1 LCB. As good as he is, Bremer solves none of these issues.

Right, so why are FP and Conte trying to sign Bremer if he doesn't fit the system? Maybe they know more than you do about this signing....I mean you are saying that you know more than Conte does about which defenders will fit his system otherwise. If we are spending 30 million on Bremer, it's because Conte wants him in his defence.

 

[cider spurs]

Just seems like an outstanding defender, which is the most important thing by far for me in the back 3.

Can people that have watched more of him explain how he compares with Rudiger. I don’t think Rudiger is anything more than an average passer but he drives forward with the ball very well - is Bremer similar in that regard?

Here you go...

Bremer the BEAST the perfect replacement for Rudiger

Chelsea are interested in signing Torino star Gleison Bremer.

www.footballtransfers.com

 

[Bulletspur]

This guy is a total defensive beast so there is a lot of upside to this potential signing. Only worry is his ability on the ball but hopefully he can adapt well to Conte's needs.

Paradox?

 

[Aphex]

I absolutely think we need to strengthen at the back but more replacing the likes of Rodon and Tanganga with a couple of players who can step into that back three on a rotation basis.

I totally disagree with this. What is the obsession with some fans not wanting to upgrade on first team players and instead wanting to sign rotation players. What does that even mean? You get better by upgrading on first 11 players, thus relegating them to back ups, not the other way around.

 

[wiggo24]

Right, so why are FP and Conte trying to sign Bremer if he doesn't fit the system? Maybe they know more than you do about this signing....I mean you are saying that you know more than Conte does about which defenders will fit his system otherwise. If we are spending 30 million on Bremer, it's because Conte wants him in his defence.

Not arguing that, and I'll support him if he comes - doesn't mean I can't myself think that the money would be better spent on better stylistic fits. If we sign him, I hope he starts every game at LCB and becomes the new Rudiger, I just have my doubts.

Football's all about opinion, I respect whoever Conte wants because he's an elite manager but I can still have my own preferences as a fan.