Player Gleison Bremer

[Derryank]

Maybe removing sentiment, but, are you confirming your bias?

That there's a better player out there than Dier? I think he's upgradeable.

He's been sensational defensively under AC, however, his diagonals (Tobyesque) balls rarely put us in an offensive position.

Not bias, purely tactical

 

[Aphex]

Not arguing that, and I'll support him if he comes - doesn't mean I can't myself think that the money would be better spent on better stylistic fits. If we sign him, I hope he starts every game at LCB and becomes the new Rudiger, I just have my doubts.

Football's all about opinion, I respect whoever Conte wants because he's an elite manager but I can still have my own preferences as a fan.

Yeah I get that, of course it's all about opinions, but saying Bremer isn't an upgarde on Davies for example, is just not true. In what world is Davies better than Bremer in any way?

 

[spursfast]

Obviously on paper the fit is a bit odd. He’s not the ideal LCB if Conte wants to replicate our style from last season. And neither is Romero, if we want Bremer to play RCB. I think Davies’ contribution to our attack was hugely important and underrated. Bremer, Romero, and Dier wouldn’t replicate that on the left. Nor is he the ideal CCB going off our style last season. But a few things I’m very confident with if we sign him. He’ll be signed to start regularly, as he’s way too good not to. He is an elite pure defender, so it’s not like we’d be signing an average player. We’d be signing a great one. And I’m positive if we sign him Conte will have a plan to get the best out of him and the whole team, so I’m calm with whoever we sign in all positions.

conte will only sign the right players... I'm waiting to see if Bastoni is dead in the water
no ITK in that respect

 

[PaulThurston]

It was effective, but I feel that was more a system thing. Now upgrade the parts of that system with better individual quality and what do you get....

At the end of the day neither davies or dier would get into the top 2's first 11, that is the level we need to reach.

You get an even better unit, absolutely with extremely good backups.

I'm excited at the possibility of getting someone of the quality of Bremer. I'm not really used to shopping at this kind of level.

 

[$hoguN]

You get an even better unit, absolutely with extremely good backups.

I'm excited at the possibility of getting someone of the quality of Bremer. I'm not really used to shopping at this kind of level.

Yeah, he is clearly a monstrous defender and will make the squad stronger

 

[wiggo24]

Yeah I get that, of course it's all about opinions, but saying Bremer isn't an upgarde on Davies for example, is just not true. In what world is Davies better than Bremer in any way?

He's better at the specific things I think/history seems to suggest Conte wants in his LCBs. Bremer is a better player, of course, but Davies has a completely different profile going forward and is left-footed. I'd just rather get someone better who's a similar profile rather than another carbon copy of Romero.

 

[alamo]

If he can bully attackers and get his head onto crosses then I am happy. Would be nice not to have a feeling of dread every time we concede a corner.

 

[mil1lion]

Bremer and Romero defending our goal next season

 

[Ron Burgundy]

He’s still going to end up at Inter isn’t he?

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

If he can bully attackers and get his head onto crosses then I am happy. Would be nice not to have a feeling of dread every time we concede a corner.

We were in the bottom 5 for goals conceded from corners. I know we need to hold ourselves to higher standards and try and be the best at not conceding but we were pretty much par for the course.

 

[BedfordshireSpud]

He’s still going to end up at Inter isn’t he?

Not if cash is King

 

[spursfast]

Not if cash is King

don't think so

do you really think we'd over pay for Bremer when the primary target is Bastoni and until ITK says it isn't

 

[dtxspurs]

Bremer isn't an upgrade on the LCB or CCB parts of the system though because he doesn't fit the requirements for a LCB in a Conte system.

Liverpool don't just randomly sign the best players in the world, they sign players who fit exactly with what they'll be required to do in positions of need. Our defence lacks the ability to play under pressure, the ability to. be progressive against low blocks, and lacks balance as we've got 3 RCBs and 1 LCB. As good as he is, Bremer solves none of these issues.

Conte literally signed Rudiger once upon a time to play LCB. Dier & Reomero can play under pressure.

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

I totally disagree with this. What is the obsession with some fans not wanting to upgrade on first team players and instead wanting to sign rotation players. What does that even mean? You get better by upgrading on first 11 players, thus relegating them to back ups, not the other way around.

It was the same when Poch was here. It was always how can we improve on what we’ve got. We ended up not getting over the line and eventually getting stale. As with then, now the manager is making certain players look better or more valuable than they are. He won’t be sucked into that line of thinking and I’m not either. We should future proof ourselves as well as if Conte leaves you’ll more than likely see those very players getting exposed again. Saying that I don’t think Bremmer is a possibility. He’s going to wait for Inter

 

[arunspurs]

Not if cash is King

This transfer is not about cash - its about him wanting to get Italian citizenship & play for Italy. Already posted it 2 pages back

Unless Levy/FP changed his mind or pulls a rabbit out of the hat, I am quite pessimistic

 

[wiggo24]

Conte literally signed Rudiger once upon a time to play LCB. Dier & Reomero can play under pressure.

Rudiger is one of the best ball playing defenders in the league, and potentially the best ball-carrying defender. Bremer, at present, is nowhere near that. He's solid at best with the ball.

If Conte thinks he can turn Bremer into that sort of player then fair enough I trust him, as I said. Right now though they're not comparable imo!

Re pressure, Romero is decent but still much better with time and space - see the first half of the Liverpool 1-1 where he lost the ball several times in bad areas under pressure. Dier, similarly, is good with space but lacks the agility and guile to play it out from the back quickly when pressed - he's much more likely to launch a ball over the top to Son or down the channels. There's a reason we really struggle to hold onto the ball against high pressing teams (Liverpool, Brighton, City, even the first 20 mins against Arsenal despite the eventual result).

 

[muel]

I think player sentimentality after an uplift with Poch ultimately damaged our squad building that we’re only just rectifying now.

It’s one of those things you can only see in hindsight as we all loved that squad so much.

 

[carpediem991]

Who knows, maybe these noises is just a try by Fabio to make Inter nervous and let Bastoni go before missing out on Bremer.

Everything seems possible nowadays.

 

[spursfast]

I think player sentimentality after an uplift with Poch ultimately damaged our squad building that we’re only just rectifying now.

It’s one of those things you can only see in hindsight as we all loved that squad so much.

nothing to say were out of the running for Bastoni...just silence

 

[austinfh]

Rudiger is one of the best ball playing defenders in the league, and potentially the best ball-carrying defender. Bremer, at present, is nowhere near that. He's solid at best with the ball.

If Conte thinks he can turn Bremer into that sort of player then fair enough I trust him, as I said. Right now though they're not comparable imo!

Re pressure, Romero is decent but still much better with time and space - see the first half of the Liverpool 1-1 where he lost the ball several times in bad areas under pressure. Dier, similarly, is good with space but lacks the agility and guile to play it out from the back quickly when pressed - he's much more likely to launch a ball over the top to Son or down the channels. There's a reason we really struggle to hold onto the ball against high pressing teams (Liverpool, Brighton, City, even the first 20 mins against Arsenal despite the eventual result).

Yep, I think this is key. Lots of people saying we should be buying out and out defenders first off, even though our defensive record under Conte was very good towards the end of the season. We really need players who are extremely comfortable on the ball and who can contribute to build up so that we’re not bullied by smart pressing teams like Southampton and Brighton