Gomes on Redknapp sacking

[JimmyG2]

From watching them - they seemed calmer under Friedel.
Had the debate with someone else, previously - there is no proof either way.
I like the big, daft Octopus - but the manner of his blunders, rather than the number of them, made it harder for defenders to relax.

I am sure he felt like this, but, maybe, he shouldn't have went public.

Please don't reopen old debates, just go back and read them (not directed at you Jimmy), as absolutely nothing has changed since they were had.

As a little aside, largely academic now, and still wished he hadn't said it, but it does add another layer of proof to the contention that 'Arry's much fabled man management doesn't extent to players he doesn't see as part of his plans - that was virtually the same as players like Kranks said (don't want you to go, still part of plans, will get game time - and then never used, or brought into the circle).

We agree then.

Just discovered the 'font size' button: I like it as you obviously do too.
You have been warned

 

[StartingPrice]

We agree then.

Just discovered the 'font size' button: I like it as you obviously do too.
You have been warned

I never agreewith you, as a point of pinciple - or principal , or even Prince Ipple

So, you have found the font size button (much like Columbus discovering a place where millions of folk lived ), but do you know the font colour button you mudder-flicker

 

[Mullers]

Gomes:I’m glad Harry was sacked

As I said on the front page this is complete fiction from the sun, a darn-right lie.
Nowhere in the article does he say this.

 

[ShelfSide18]

I know Friedel has his dissenters, but the confidence of the side was so much greater.

Can you give any evidence for this at all? I'd suggest that you feel more confident, and you automatically think the team did.

 

[RichieS]

Can you give any evidence for this at all? I'd suggest that you feel more confident, and you automatically think the team did.

Obviously it's personal interpretation, but the look on the faces of most of the team after he gave away the second penalty against Blackpool suggested they'd had enough.

 

[Stoof]

Can you give any evidence for this at all? I'd suggest that you feel more confident, and you automatically think the team did.

If I, and 36,000 fellow supporters, feel confident and comfortable (and by comfortable I mean not jeering him when he catches a ball, FFS!!) then it's not too much of a stretch to suggest that the players may feel the same way. Maybe it is. Not to me.

We're all influenced by our own feelings towards players, the team, the atmosphere. Christ, I'm influenced by what pie I've had pre-match. If no pie, then talkshowhost is bound to be in for a 90 minute earful of tripe. Hungry Stoof needs food.

I digress.

There didn't seem to be too many "aharhaOMG!!LOLSZZ!" moments with Bradders. There did with HG. But in raw data, I'm not sure we could comment either way.

But if it comes down to the crowd jeering their own goalkeeper or one feeling calm with one, I know which one I'd pick - because we do, unfortunately for some loud mouths, have a say and an impact in a game.

 

[HertsYid]

2010/11 Gomes appearences 41 - 11 clean sheets

2011/12 Friedel apprearences 38 - 14 clean sheets


on his day gomes was a world class keeper and ive seen him making some saves no other would probably have saved (someone mentioned RVP?). but whats the point of making 3 top notch saves only to let your mind go wandering and then let one through your legs or whatever. people dont remember great saves if you go spilling one in your own net afterwoulds.

een the commentators used to take the piss if he caught one!

 

[ShelfSide18]

Obviously it's personal interpretation, but the look on the faces of most of the team after he gave away the second penalty against Blackpool suggested they'd had enough.

I remember seeing Kaboul bollocking Friedel for being glued to his line last year?

It was a bad moment for him indeed (Blackpool pen), and the end of that season was a bit of a nightmare for the guy but there's no hard evidence for this claim. I would be willing to bet that stats would show that goals conceded from set pieces and crosses went up a great deal with Brad in goal, soft as shit goals like Rooney heading in from 5 yards out piss me off as much as Gomes dropping one in, just one looks horrible, the other not so. Just like when Palacios would misplace 1 pass out of 50 a game but that one misplaced pass would be so unutterably awful that it stood out. It's more 'available' to us to remember Gomes clangers than Friedel stayed glued to his line as we conceded soft goals from crosses, or watching the long range strikes at Villa and Fulham sail in unopposed.

It's not like our goals conceded stat has rocketed, we conceded 5 less this season so you could possibly claim that those 5 goals were solely Friedel's influence, although I'd rather point to an improvement in our side overall, it's not exactly like an avalanche has been stemmed?

And should anyone manage to dig up the stat that we conceded more from crosses/set pieces last season (can't find it for the life of me!) then would that change anyone's view that the team are more confident in Friedel? My intuition tells me that we conceded far more from crosses/set pieces last season, I do think I would be proved correct.

 

[markiespurs]

Gomes is a world class shot stopper and comes across as a decent bloke, but his all round goal keeping is poor.

Although his shot stopping is not as good, Friedal is a much better all-round goalkeeper.

It was nice to go to the Lane last season and not feel a nervous atmosphere every time the ball came into our area.

 

[hodsgod]

Gomes must be deluded if he thinks he only made two mistakes. He's at fault for losing his place, no-one else, so the sooner he stops blaming other people, and knuckes down instead, the better it will be for his own career.

You forgot about pretending he's injured.

 

[JimmyG2]

I never agreewith you, as a point of pinciple - or principal , or even Prince Ipple

So, you have found the font size button (much like Columbus discovering a place where millions of folk lived ), but do you know the font colour button you mudder-flicker

I'm not going to get into historico-geographic matters here.
Disagreeing with me is probably a good recipe for a successful life.
It's stood me in good stead over the years.

I knew the button was there just didn't realise how useful and effective it was.
(Font changes too you'll notice) Columbos; shmolumbos.

 

[Jack2]

Just don't believe a word written in The Sun.

 

[kaz Hirai]

2010/11 Gomes appearences 41 - 11 clean sheets

2011/12 Friedel apprearences 38 - 14 clean sheets


on his day gomes was a world class keeper and ive seen him making some saves no other would probably have saved (someone mentioned RVP?). but whats the point of making 3 top notch saves only to let your mind go wandering and then let one through your legs or whatever. people dont remember great saves if you go spilling one in your own net afterwoulds.

een the commentators used to take the piss if he caught one!

not really a big difference then, goals conceeded 41 last season, 46 the season before. Again not a big difference, also considering how strong the spurs team was last season so friedel had the edge playing in a team that was easily the 3rd best in the league despite what the end table shows

To be honest I think Friedel makes just as many mistakes as Gomes does, it's just his mistakes arent all up in your face like Gomes' ones

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Well apparently Friedel was behind the (c) Chocoloate Teapot midfield for most of the season so that must count for something.

And SS18, the Villa long range goal was harsh, massive deflection. Not sure if the Fulham one is correct, do you mean the QPR free kick?

There really is no comparison between them, and the influence they have on the defence.

 

[arnoldlayne]

2010/11 Gomes appearences 41 - 11 clean sheets

2011/12 Friedel apprearences 38 - 14 clean sheets


on his day gomes was a world class keeper and ive seen him making some saves no other would probably have saved (someone mentioned RVP?). but whats the point of making 3 top notch saves only to let your mind go wandering and then let one through your legs or whatever. people dont remember great saves if you go spilling one in your own net afterwoulds.

een the commentators used to take the piss if he caught one!

out of curiosity, how many times did we concede 5 goals with each keeper?

 

[Banny]

Just watched a video on YouTube "the worst of Gomes". Easy to dig him out after watching it but it was a pretty long video.

 

[nailsy]

This bit was interesting, "But if you don’t play well, they don’t don’t help you at all. That made me feel terrible.”

Sounds like he wanted help, but didn't get it, which sounds a bit odd.

 

[EJWTartanSpur]

Was playing well when Friedel came in ? LOL what you mean the middle of the summer in the immediate aftermath of playing like a fucking moron for multiple months and dropping more clangers than Joe Jordan drops F-bombs ?

 

[parklane1]

Only two mistakes, the guy is deluded

 

[SoulDog]

Poor Gomes.

I have always liked him. On his day he is a world class keeper it's just a shame, that when he messes up he really messes up. Still think he is just as good as Friedal and think there were a few games last season where we missed him.

I still like ya Gomes!